Halo 3 Alpha graphics confirmed for Beta.

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*Beta is only three weeks because they're primarily doing data gathering on matchmaking and such.

*Beta should be "more than a satisfying sampling" of MP.

*New stuff like Equipment is in (the X button). New social items and features that help with friends sticking together included in the Beta.

*Voice muting should be in the Beta, not full set of features.

*Very unlikely to see live changes to the game, just checking "hardwired code" for specific data mining. Not everything will be perfect, but it's a "lovely, clean experience".

*Not going to see finished graphics

*Hints that campaign is further along than the MP we'll see in the Beta.

*Maps chosen for different reasons. Only data-driven decision on map selections was Valhalla to have a big map in the mix. "A true ****c."

*There will be one or two little things saved as a surprises for the Beta. Nothing on the level of new weapons/vehicles.

*Beta will include Slayer for certain, and objective-based games.

*Frankie will be a guest columnist at OXM soon

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12370 

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#2 too_much_eslim
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Don't get me wrong I am a fan of Halo and can't wait to play it. I know in the final retail game the graphics will be greatly improved.
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#3 Raidea
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*Not going to see finished graphicstoo_much_eslim

How does that relate to the thread title? 

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OMG i think i'm gunna take a break from SW during the beta, it's gunna be crazy!
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"Not going to see finished graphics" doesn't mean, "Going to be Alpha graphics".
But regardless, it's this is going out for the gameplay. So I'm not worried.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]*Not going to see finished graphicsRaidea

How does that relate to the thread title? 

It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.

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"Not going to see finished graphics" doesn't mean, "Going to be Alpha graphics".
But regardless, it's this is going out for the gameplay. So I'm not worried.musicalmac

agreed. 

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i cant wait for the beta!
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It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.too_much_eslim


Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?
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[QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]*Not going to see finished graphicstoo_much_eslim

How does that relate to the thread title?

It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.

...bungie already stated before that the beta will not be showing what the final version will look like. you understood 

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]"Not going to see finished graphics" doesn't mean, "Going to be Alpha graphics".
But regardless, it's this is going out for the gameplay. So I'm not worried.Dreams-Visions

agreed. 

I agree the beta is more about testing out the gameplay so I see no need for them to improve the visuals just to test out gameplay. Shadowrun looks terrible in its beta, but it will look a lot better once the game is released.

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[QUOTE="Raidea"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]*Not going to see finished graphicstoo_much_eslim

How does that relate to the thread title?

It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.

i couldnt find another way to make the IMO stant out....How does imo mean alpha graphics are CONFIRMED?!?!?! learn how to make a real topic

 

PS how do u have over 1000 posts and are a level one? u get banned every day or soemthing? 

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.foxhound_fox


Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

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Alpha= concept, gameplay

Beta=gameplay, graphics

The beta will look significantly better than the alpha stages and the videos shown which are many months old, but it will not look as good as the final game 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.too_much_eslim



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos. 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.too_much_eslim



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

testing the graphics is part of the beta...
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*Beta is only three weeks because they're primarily doing data gathering on matchmaking and such.

*Beta should be "more than a satisfying sampling" of MP.

*New stuff like Equipment is in (the X button). New social items and features that help with friends sticking together included in the Beta.

*Voice muting should be in the Beta, not full set of features.

*Very unlikely to see live changes to the game, just checking "hardwired code" for specific data mining. Not everything will be perfect, but it's a "lovely, clean experience".

*Not going to see finished graphics

*Hints that campaign is further along than the MP we'll see in the Beta.

*Maps chosen for different reasons. Only data-driven decision on map selections was Valhalla to have a big map in the mix. "A true ****c."

*There will be one or two little things saved as a surprises for the Beta. Nothing on the level of new weapons/vehicles.

*Beta will include Slayer for certain, and objective-based games.

*Frankie will be a guest columnist at OXM soon

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12370

too_much_eslim

Um no it will be Beta graphics, Alpha graphics isnt a type of graphics its a state of which the game is in, and when the beta is released it will be in its beta state of visuals.  

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.lawlessx



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos. 

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.too_much_eslim



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

for example, The part in the recent vidoc showed a spartan falling into the water with no splash... in the beta Bungie said that will not happen...
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.too_much_eslim



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta. 

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.justforlotr2004



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta.

actually, I think the date shown for the build was April of 05....
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You don't test graphics, you test gameplay. Optimization stage is for fleshing out the graphics problems, framerate, etc, etc.
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im sorry, what were you reading?

"They're not done yet. All are geometry complete, but they're being polished and tuned for graphics and gameplay 'til the last minute"

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.wolverine4262



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta.

actually, I think the date shown for the build was April of 05....

No that was not a date at the bottom, that was code for the build.  The actual date is from october or november of last year and even Bungie has stated "months ago". 

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.justforlotr2004



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta.

actually, I think the date shown for the build was April of 05....

No that was not a date at the bottom, that was code for the build. The actual date is from october or november of last year and even Bungie has stated "months ago".

yay, that was what I was thinking, but someone else stated April of 05 on here and it led me to believe that... You gotta admit it does look like a date...
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u must have missed where they said graphics will be better then what u have seen in beta but not finished. fanboys.
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.wolverine4262



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta.

actually, I think the date shown for the build was April of 05....

No that was not a date at the bottom, that was code for the build. The actual date is from october or november of last year and even Bungie has stated "months ago".

yay, that was what I was thinking, but someone else stated April of 05 on here and it led me to believe that... You gotta admit it does look like a date...

Yeah It does look like a date but if you compair it to the other vidoc then you will see that it isnt. 

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]It is most likely going to look like the video they shown us. There is no need to improve the graphics right now for beta testing imo.justforlotr2004



Have you seen the difference between a game in internal alpha and one in public beta?

No I just don't think they need to focus on the graphics for the beta. They could have given me the build they shown in that vidoc, and I would be happy. The fact they state that it will not have the final graphics means it is going to look closer to the Alpha build, and not the final build.

again..they comfrimed that the beta will have improved graphics early this month. they would not have said that if the beta looked almost like the alpha videos.

They did???? Must have miss that post. Ok then nevermind. I hope you will be tell the difference between the two.

Of course it will, the videos that were shown are from late last year so obviously the game is going to be more complete now as the moved from the alpha stage of development to beta.

actually, I think the date shown for the build was April of 05....

No that was not a date at the bottom, that was code for the build. The actual date is from october or november of last year and even Bungie has stated "months ago".

yay, that was what I was thinking, but someone else stated April of 05 on here and it led me to believe that... You gotta admit it does look like a date...

Yeah It does look like a date but if you compair it to the other vidoc then you will see that it isnt.

oh... okay. Either way we should get a signifact improvement on May 16th
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oh... okay. Either way we should get a signifact improvement on May 16th
wolverine4262

Yeah I think the graphics will look fine, the graphics already look great in some places but yeah it does need a bit of polish here and there. 

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"The reasons you're getting three maps is similar, but has as much to do with our normal production schedule as anything else. It's easier to think of why you're not getting the rest of the maps. They're not done yet. All are geometry complete, but they're being polished and tuned for graphics and gameplay 'til the last minute. You could say that the maps you're playing are the best balanced and most complete so far."

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*Not going to see finished graphics ... can also mean that we'll see beta graphics in the beta. :P
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*Beta is only three weeks because they're primarily doing data gathering on matchmaking and such.

*Beta should be "more than a satisfying sampling" of MP.

*New stuff like Equipment is in (the X button). New social items and features that help with friends sticking together included in the Beta.

*Voice muting should be in the Beta, not full set of features.

*Very unlikely to see live changes to the game, just checking "hardwired code" for specific data mining. Not everything will be perfect, but it's a "lovely, clean experience".

*Not going to see finished graphics

*Hints that campaign is further along than the MP we'll see in the Beta.

*Maps chosen for different reasons. Only data-driven decision on map selections was Valhalla to have a big map in the mix. "A true ****c."

*There will be one or two little things saved as a surprises for the Beta. Nothing on the level of new weapons/vehicles.

*Beta will include Slayer for certain, and objective-based games.

*Frankie will be a guest columnist at OXM soon

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12370 

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 Bungie could show off by showing more footage of Halo 3 campaign, but I think the end result will be great, and all haters will be silenced once it's released.

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Bungie could show off by showing more footage of Halo 3 campaign, but I think the end result will be great, and all haters will be silenced once it's released.

themyth01

Doubt it. The Sony fanboys will find some obscure site that gives Halo 3 a bad rating and harp on it over and over. They're going to absolutely flood system wars with complaints about the Halo 3 Beta graphics, and in the end, even it gets a great score, they'll call it overrated and make a dozen posts about "GS bias".

At the end of the day, the Sony fanboys are anti-gaming, they want this game to suck. They don't root for another great game for the gaming community to enjoy, but rather hope that the flagship of "the enemy" goes down in flames.

Frankly, if the game scores anything less than a 9.0 were never going to hear the end of it.