Halo 3 and GTA IV still the BIGGEST franchises around?

I guess I should specify "among hardcore gamers" cause the sheep will bring up Mario.  Sorry I didn't mention Mario, but that's kids stuff.  5 years ago these two franchises sold the most of there time.  Will it be the same this holiday season in 2007?

With those two franchises, I don't see how the 360 won't stomp the competition this holiday season.  What other franchises have the history backed with quality titles?

Gran Turismo with 40 Million+ Sold last time i checked is the biggest franchiseR-Dot-Yung

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Infinatey

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

It's in the top 20 best selling franchises, why don't they make SF4?!

Kingdom Hearts, surprisingly, is actually a very big international franchise as well.  In terms of sheer popularity, Halo and GTA are a little ways down the list but still near the top.

I guess I should specify "among hardcore gamers" cause the sheep will bring up Mario. Sorry I didn't mention Mario, but that's kids stuff. 5 years ago these two franchises sold the most of there time. Will it be the same this holiday season in 2007?

With those two franchises, I don't see how the 360 won't stomp the competition this holiday season. What other franchises have the history backed with quality titles?

lawsonboy

In terms of sales? Halo is nowhere near the top two biggest franchises ever.

And while GTA is closer, I hardly think GTA is an exclusively hardcore game (Halo either for that matter). The two groups attract a large casual crowd.

Ultimately, the bigger the franchise, the less hardcore it is, since you really need to tap into the casual market to expand it to a certain point. 

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Infinatey

wow u powned someone here really hard.... 

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Infinatey

Nope. Nintendo holds the crown when it comes to IP's

Funny how some "kiddy" fat little plumber can decimate "hardcore" mascots like master chief and other cookie cutter tough guys used to give off so called "cool" vibes so that the kiddies will feel "mature" while they play their simple minded graphics driven psuedo-movies.

tis hilarious indeed. 

GT, GTA, FF and Halo are the biggest according to sales. Mario is huge too though. the-very-best

I guess I should specify "among hardcore gamers" cause the sheep will bring up Mario. Sorry I didn't mention Mario, but that's kids stuff. 5 years ago these two franchises sold the most of there time. Will it be the same this holiday season in 2007?

With those two franchises, I don't see how the 360 won't stomp the competition this holiday season. What other franchises have the history backed with quality titles?

lawsonboy

mario kiddy? heh... beat a mario game 100% and then tell me its kiddy and not hardcore. Just because nintendo can make games that everyone can have fun with and not just the hardcore (ie 13 year olds)... 

Nope. Nintendo holds the crown when it comes to IP's

 

Funny how some "kiddy" fat little plumber can decimate "hardcore" mascots like master chief and other cookie cutter tough guys used to give off so called "cool" vibes so that the kiddies will feel "mature" while they play their simple minded graphics driven psuedo-movies.

tis hilarious indeed.

MaTT2011

To be fair though, Mario has been around a very long time, in a large number of games, so it's not exactly surprising he's won out. 

IMO, the big success stories of that list are Pokemon, GTA and The Sims, which established themselves a bit more recently. 

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Giancar

wow u powned someone here really hard.... 

I concur.

Nope. Nintendo holds the crown when it comes to IP's

 

Funny how some "kiddy" fat little plumber can decimate "hardcore" mascots like master chief and other cookie cutter tough guys used to give off so called "cool" vibes so that the kiddies will feel "mature" while they play their simple minded graphics driven psuedo-movies.

tis hilarious indeed. 

MaTT2011

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

SmoothMoved

Halo has 2 games. The other franchises have about 5 or more. Thats like fighting 5v2 its not a fair battle.

Top games Sold (rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES - 18 Mil)

2 - The Sims (PC - 16 mil)

3 - Diablo II (PC - 15 mil)

4 - Super Mario Land (Game Boy - 14 Mil)

5 - GTA: San Andreas (PS2, XBOX - 14 Mil)

6 - GTA: Vice city (PS2 - 13 Mil)

7 - Super Mario 64 (N64 - 11 Mil)

8 - Gran Turismo 3 (PS2 - 11 mil)

9 - GTA III (PS2 - 11 Mil)

10 - Gran Turismo (PSOne - 11 Mil)

1 individual Halo game isn't even in here.....It might be in the top..50? BUt it's not in the top 10.

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Infinatey

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Igwababa

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

Nice post I was trying to say that in a shorter way. Halo has 2 games Mario has 30 games. Not a fair comparison.

 

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

Igwababa

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Infinatey

No Halo in sight. 

[QUOTE="Igwababa"] 

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

reaperstoll

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

Could you give me a link to how many copies Super Mario Bros 3 sold?

[QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

IMuGGeDSaTaN

Halo has 2 games. The other franchises have about 5 or more. Thats like fighting 5v2 its not a fair battle.

Then perhaps the TC shouldn't claim it's one of the biggest franchises around. 

[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Igwababa"]

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

IMuGGeDSaTaN

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

Could you give me a link to how many copies Super Mario Bros 3 sold?

I went with the guys post above me, don't care enough to provide a link. Mario is undeniably a bigger franchise, anyone who tries to claim otherwise doesn't understand basic math. Popularity wise you could make an argument but from a size perspective there is no competition.

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

SmoothMoved

2 halo games vs a list with all atleast double the amount of titles produced... 12 Final fantasies and how many mario and madden and Pokemon titles have been made

Top games Sold (rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES - 18 Mil)

2 - The Sims (PC - 16 mil)

3 - Diablo II (PC - 15 mil)

4 - Super Mario Land (Game Boy - 14 Mil)

5 - GTA: San Andreas (PS2, XBOX - 14 Mil)

6 - GTA: Vice city (PS2 - 13 Mil)

7 - Super Mario 64 (N64 - 11 Mil)

8 - Gran Turismo 3 (PS2 - 11 mil)

9 - GTA III (PS2 - 11 Mil)

10 - Gran Turismo (PSOne - 11 Mil)

1 individual Halo game isn't even in here.....It might be in the top..50? BUt it's not in the top 10.

Infinatey

and the ownage continues...

Halo has 2 games. The other franchises have about 5 or more. Thats like fighting 5v2 its not a fair battle.

IMuGGeDSaTaN

beat me too it

[QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Medjai

2 halo games vs a list with all atleast double the amount of titles produced... 12 Final fantasies and how many mario and madden and Pokemon titles have been made

Yes, that's fine Halo is at a disadvantage.

But it doesn't mean the TC should be calling Halo the biggest franchise around then. 

[QUOTE="Medjai"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Danm_999

2 halo games vs a list with all atleast double the amount of titles produced... 12 Final fantasies and how many mario and madden and Pokemon titles have been made

Yes, that's fine Halo is at a disadvantage.

But it doesn't mean the TC should be calling Halo the biggest franchise around then. 

there is no doubt Mario is the biggest franchise and name in gaming still to this day

[QUOTE="Igwababa"]

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

reaperstoll

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

 Im not saying that Mario is for kids or anything only that the xbox sold what 20-25 million which is not alot at all, Halo did amazing with such a limited userbase. Mario is defniantly for me the most succesfull franchise, with pokemon coming in second because of the way it is diminishing slowly but surely. However for a relatively new IP Halo has had break away succes and has been able to build an entire community so that when a Halo game comes out everyone knows it. Thats what should be considered, there is more to a great franchise than sales. Starcraft is one example of this, it is still a very huge and popular franchise however it doesnt have the tens of millions of copies sold.

I guess I should specify "among hardcore gamers" cause the sheep will bring up Mario.  Sorry I didn't mention Mario, but that's kids stuff.  5 years ago these two franchises sold the most of there time.  Will it be the same this holiday season in 2007?

With those two franchises, I don't see how the 360 won't stomp the competition this holiday season.  What other franchises have the history backed with quality titles?

lawsonboy

ahh gotta love idiots.

use a formula such as. Number of titles sold compared to the hardware sold of those consoles, and do it by individule titles, not comparing a franchise of 30 games to that of 2.

it isnt hard to be a top franchise in sales when you started 20 years before the compitition 

I believe that the Pokemon franchises is still huge.Kev_Unreal

Only in Japan, in the US it's GTA and Halo. Mario is dying a slow painful death...Hopefully nintendo will follow it.

lol @ dem halo fans trying so hard. buuu buu but our console didn't sell as much, LAME.

[QUOTE="MaTT2011"]

Nope. Nintendo holds the crown when it comes to IP's

 

Funny how some "kiddy" fat little plumber can decimate "hardcore" mascots like master chief and other cookie cutter tough guys used to give off so called "cool" vibes so that the kiddies will feel "mature" while they play their simple minded graphics driven psuedo-movies.

tis hilarious indeed.

Danm_999

To be fair though, Mario has been around a very long time, in a large number of games, so it's not exactly surprising he's won out.

IMO, the big success stories of that list are Pokemon, GTA and The Sims, which established themselves a bit more recently.

I completely agree, but that will depend on one situation. Are the software sales for Mario just for the main series? Because if that is the case, then........ Well....... The number of Pokemon RPG's out there or even the GTA games are really not that far off from the number of titles from the main series of Mario.  

[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Igwababa"]

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

Igwababa

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

Im not saying that Mario is for kids or anything only that the xbox sold what 20-25 million which is not alot at all, Halo did amazing with such a limited userbase. Mario is defniantly for me the most succesfull franchise, with pokemon coming in second because of the way it is diminishing slowly but surely. However for a relatively new IP Halo has had break away succes and has been able to build an entire community so that when a Halo game comes out everyone knows it. Thats what should be considered, there is more to a great franchise than sales. Starcraft is one example of this, it is still a very huge and popular franchise however it doesnt have the tens of millions of copies sold.

The kiddy comment was directed at TC who said Mario doesn't count because its kiddy or something like that. I agree that Halo has done well for itself based off its limitations, but it still doesn't come close to many franchises, saying it is one of the biggest is pretty ridiculous.