Halo 3 and GTA IV still the BIGGEST franchises around?

lol @ dem halo fans trying so hard. buuu buu but our console didn't sell as much, LAME.

Ewok432

I'm not even a huge halo fan, only the online multiplayer of 2, and this is a pretty pathetic post. Let me use your logic here

but but but 2 games should outsell 30 games if its so great. In a nutshell, you are admitting Halo is amazing, why else would you compare it to a franchise with 30 games? Pretty sad.

How about thism lets compare the sales of Halo 1 to Mario Sunshine. Legit, same console era, weren't released too far apart from eachother. Hell lets give Mario an advantage and compare it to the sales of Halo 2, which was released what, 2 years later?

But it isn't fair, we have to compare it to the 25+ games that came out before it too! so go find the numbers, then you have an argument :). Or are you going to go cry some more instead of using logic?

[QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Igwababa"]

Well it has to be taken in to context, Mario has been around longer than some people on this forum and has tons of games out. Even at relatively low sales they could have had millions of copies sold. I ****fy the a title like Halo huge because of its sales per title, 2 titles and over 14 million is very good. Also since its exclusive it really cuts into sales as some people love Halo but only own a PS2 and cant afford to get a xbox (college students, kids, etc.). I still think GTA and Halo is the biggest franchises out there but the competition is not far behind with games like Gears selling millions of copies.

The Size of a franchise should be a measure of context of availability of system, number of titles, and copies sold.

reaperstoll

Super Mario Bros 3 sold more copies than Halo and Halo 2 put together, i think its a bigger franchise even if it is "kiddy".

Im not saying that Mario is for kids or anything only that the xbox sold what 20-25 million which is not alot at all, Halo did amazing with such a limited userbase. Mario is defniantly for me the most succesfull franchise, with pokemon coming in second because of the way it is diminishing slowly but surely. However for a relatively new IP Halo has had break away succes and has been able to build an entire community so that when a Halo game comes out everyone knows it. Thats what should be considered, there is more to a great franchise than sales. Starcraft is one example of this, it is still a very huge and popular franchise however it doesnt have the tens of millions of copies sold.

The kiddy comment was directed at TC who said Mario doesn't count because its kiddy or something like that. I agree that Halo has done well for itself based off its limitations, but it still doesn't come close to many franchises, saying it is one of the biggest is pretty ridiculous.

 It is ridiculuos to label it one of the biggest franchises out there however I defnianlty consider it in the top 3 console franchises (GTA,Mario,Halo). However I am a big fan of the game myself so my opinion is fairly bias and limited seeing as I lived in africa where Nintendo doesnt exist and Microsoft doesnt extend into mainstream gaming.

Unfortunately, no matter which way you slice it, Halo is not amongst the biggest franchises ever.

If we look at it in games released, Halo is only at 2. Some would even argue that isn't a franchise.

In sales, nowhere near. It's not even near the franchises that exploded early last generation (The Sims, GTA) so you really can't use the time factor.

In terms of standalone games too, it isn't the biggest. So I really can't rationalise the statement it's the biggest ever.

It may grow to be that, but it isn't now. 

Of course it isn't going to compare to games released on 3 different platforms.

I'm looking at titles that are console/platform exclusive. Mario, Zelda, Halo, ratchet and clank.

It isn't hard to sell a lot when you release on all 4 platforms :) 

Of course it isn't going to compare to games released on 3 different platforms.

I'm looking at titles that are console/platform exclusive. Mario, Zelda, Halo, ratchet and clank.

It isn't hard to sell a lot when you release on all 4 platforms :)

DoctorBunny

Granted, but then you really can't justify calling it the biggest ever.

Also, it's not an exclusive, it's on 360 and PC. 

lol @ dem halo fans trying so hard. buuu buu but our console didn't sell as much, LAME.

Ewok432

it sold more than the gamepube.

[QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

IMuGGeDSaTaN

Halo has 2 games. The other franchises have about 5 or more. Thats like fighting 5v2 its not a fair battle.

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

Top games Sold (rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES - 18 Mil)

2 - The Sims (PC - 16 mil)

3 - Diablo II (PC - 15 mil)

4 - Super Mario Land (Game Boy - 14 Mil)

5 - GTA: San Andreas (PS2, XBOX - 14 Mil)

6 - GTA: Vice city (PS2 - 13 Mil)

7 - Super Mario 64 (N64 - 11 Mil)

8 - Gran Turismo 3 (PS2 - 11 mil)

9 - GTA III (PS2 - 11 Mil)

10 - Gran Turismo (PSOne - 11 Mil)

1 individual Halo game isn't even in here.....It might be in the top..50? BUt it's not in the top 10.

Dr_Evil_PhD

and the ownage continues...

lol, if ya thought the top 20 franchises of all time list wasn't fair, here's another list that is more than fair. hmm.. no halo :lol:

sure halo is one of the most famous, but definitly not the msot purchased. barely anybody even had an xbox.Paper_Knife

Agreed, there is no denying that Halo on PS2 would have sold millions more, with the 360 doing much better this generation Halo sales will most likely also increase. 

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

Of course it isn't going to compare to games released on 3 different platforms.

I'm looking at titles that are console/platform exclusive. Mario, Zelda, Halo, ratchet and clank.

It isn't hard to sell a lot when you release on all 4 platforms :)

Danm_999

Granted, but then you really can't justify calling it the biggest ever.

Also, it's not an exclusive, it's on 360 and PC.

Ahh, finally a argument with logic. Forgot all about it.

But then again this argument is pretty much dead. Comparing frachises that are 20 years old to ones created 4-8 years ago. I would say it would be fair to say which is the biggest franchise of last gen, or of each generation.

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]

Of course it isn't going to compare to games released on 3 different platforms.

I'm looking at titles that are console/platform exclusive. Mario, Zelda, Halo, ratchet and clank.

It isn't hard to sell a lot when you release on all 4 platforms :)

DoctorBunny

Granted, but then you really can't justify calling it the biggest ever.

Also, it's not an exclusive, it's on 360 and PC.

Ahh, finally a argument with logic. Forgot all about it.

But then again this argument is pretty much dead. Comparing frachises that are 20 years old to ones created 4-8 years ago. I would say it would be fair to say which is the biggest franchise of last gen, or of each generation.

Of last gen? The Sims. 

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

SmoothMoved

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version. 

[QUOTE="IMuGGeDSaTaN"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

SmoothMoved

Halo has 2 games. The other franchises have about 5 or more. Thats like fighting 5v2 its not a fair battle.

Per unit sold Halo will destroy mario. You are talking every version of mario there is a like a hundred of them.  Might as well count every version of tetris since in reality that has more units sold than mario, or you might as well count any pong ripoff, etc. 

[QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

Igwababa

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

[QUOTE="Infinatey"]

This was in the recent game informer, of world wide sales of games. There are 2 catagories. I really think that pokemon will surpass mario.....when the new pokemon game comes out whenever it comes out (I think it's this month).

Top Franchises(rounded up to nearest Million)

1 - Mario: 193 Mil (Nintendo)

2 - Pokemon: 155 Mil (Nintendo)

3 - Final Fantasy: 70 Mil (Sony and Nintendo)

4 - Madden NFL: 56 Mil (Multi)

5 - GTA: 55 Mil (Multi)

6 - The Sims: 54 Mil (Multi; mainly PC, though)

7 - The Legend of Zelda: 49 Mil (Nintendo)

8 - Donkey Kong: 48 Mil (Nintendo)

9 - Sonic the Hedgehog: 44 (Mulit; though mainly on Nintendo, now)

10 - Gran Turismo: 44 (Sony)

11 - Lineage: 43 (PC)

12 - Dragon Quest: 40 (Nintendo)

13 - Crash Bandicoor: 34 (Sony)

14 - Resident Evil: 31 (Multi; mostly Sony)

15 - James Bond: 30 (multi)

16 - Tomb Raider: 30 (Multi; mostly Sony)

17 - Tekken:29 (Sony)

18 - Mega Man: 26 (Mutli; mostly Nintendo)

19 - Street Fighter: 25 (Multi; mostly Nintendo)

20 - Command & Conquer: 25 (PC)

 

This was in the recent EGM. Halo doesn't even compete with these.

Dualshockin

It is about the franchise. So even if Halo 3 is the last of it's breed, there will still be other Halo games. 

[QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

SmoothMoved

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well with your logic, almost every single xbox owner in the ENTIRE world would have had to buy halo for it to sell more than mario brothers 3. Logic is you take the percentage of console owners who bought the title.

If thier were 15 million xbox's sold world wide, and every single one of them bought halo, you would still try to whine about it selling more, even if it was physically impossible for it to. 

hahhahaha how can one franchise be better if one game from another franchise sold more

 also lol@ calling me out when im not even here

[QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

SmoothMoved

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million.  That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base.  If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that.  If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

SmoothMoved

Money wise Halo 2 destroyed Mario 3 in one day grossing over $125 million.

[QUOTE="Kev_Unreal"]I believe that the Pokemon franchises is still huge.Death2009

Only in Japan, in the US it's GTA and Halo. Mario is dying a slow painful death...Hopefully nintendo will follow it.

How are you able to hit the submit button after typing that garbage you call a post? Mario is dying a slow and painful death? Um New Super Mario Brother has hit over 5 million sales and is AAA here. Super Paper Mario recieved an 8.8 not to mention every game with Mario's name on it has been a million seller according to vgcharts. Pokemon is the biggest thing in Japan and huge in Europe as well. Mario isn't Sonic its not dying and hoping Nintendo follows is just down right ridiculous. You call yourself a gamer?  

hahhahaha how can one franchise be better if one game from another franchise sold more

also lol@ calling me out when im not even here

Ewok432

A game when that console was the only one out for its generation great logic. And calling you out when you aren't here? I posted 6 minutes after you did, and states you were online for over 10 minutes after, genious in the making here.

I used pure logic, and formula's, you used fanboyish remarks. For example, both halo's were released last gen. Once 2 years after mario was released last gen and stil outsold it MAJORLY. Both halo's did in the same generation. Funny how you can pull up numbers for a game released like 15 years ago and compare it to one released 5 years ago?

multiply its sales by 3, and then compare the numbers as then it would make the sales more realistic. but wait, you are going to come back with more fanboyish remarks correct? 

[QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

SmoothMoved

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Halo is one of the biggest franchises in gaming history, everyone knows about Halo, very little games achieve mainstream popculture. Halo isint the biggest franchise but it defnianlty is one of the biggest. Halo might not have the highest sales but a franchise cant be measured by sales except if all systems shares same units sold. Refer to my first post, also just because Halo is my favorite game for console does not make me a Lemming, I own  both 360 and wii, and I will soon own a PS3 once games start rolling out. People need to stop stereotyping that people who love Halo must be a Lemming. 

also mario was a major factor in selling most of those consoles. why couldnt halo push that many xbox'sEwok432

Japan Famicom didn't launch with mario.... It launched with Zelda it still sold good. 

[QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

rexoverbey

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8 

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers. 

also mario was a major factor in selling most of those consoles. why couldnt halo push that many xbox'sEwok432

Actually, lack of compitition giving it just about ALL dev support is what pushed all those sales.  

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhaahahahhahahaha

ps.... u mad

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhaahahahhahahaha

ps.... u mad

Ewok432

Posting logic, and using intelligence is being mad?

You're age is showing. You couldn't even handle posting a single sentence, even with the spelling aside.  u mad? I feel like i'm talking to a 7 year old, which I very might be. 

also mario was a major factor in selling most of those consoles. why couldnt halo push that many xbox'sEwok432

Nintendo didn't have the competiotin that the Xbox did. It was the leader. If The xbox had sold 100 Million units, Halo would easily be in the top 20 franchises(assuming the attathment rate held). Anyways, this is a really rediculous argument, and I agree that Halo isn't even close to pne of the top franchises. One of the most popular, yes, not sales wise though. 

actually im 18 and sorry that i dont take the time to type out paragraphs to try and prove my own views. i have my own opinion and no amount of you justifying with paragraphs is going to change that

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

 

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

Blackbond

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers.

Total ownage 

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

Blackbond

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8 

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers. 

Rexover is one of the worst fanboys on these forums.  He just spews out random crap before he even begins to think. 

We really need to look at the age of these franchises.  Halo is fairly new compared to Mario, Zelda, etc.  Even GTA has been around for over 10 years... although GTA3 officially turned the franchise into a huge seller.

For recent franchises, Halo and GTA are among the leaders, but Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Madden, and others have plenty of clout.  And don't forget The Sims... and even though their sales are inflated by the gazillion expansions, they sell and sell very well... although it's not really hardcore.

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

 

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

Blackbond

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8 

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers. 

They are worthless games for little kids.  There have been lots of games that are worthless and sell well.  There are even fad albulms that sales well don't mean that I'll buy them.

You enjoy your hardcore mario baseball, golf, etc.  Since fanboys are the only ones who don't play that trash.

I guess I should specify "among hardcore gamers" cause the sheep will bring up Mario.  Sorry I didn't mention Mario, but that's kids stuff.  5 years ago these two franchises sold the most of there time.  Will it be the same this holiday season in 2007?in the recent game informer it shows that mario and pokemon are the top 2 selling franchises of all time. so evidentally mario isnt kids stuff. 2nd of all halo isnt even on the top 20 list.

With those two franchises, I don't see how the 360 won't stomp the competition this holiday season.  What other franchises have the history backed with quality titles?

lawsonboy

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

 

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

Nickman71

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers.

Total ownage 

He didn't own anything for one he made paper mario out to be AAA.  It ain't AAA here sorry to say.  The rest are overated kid games that only 10 year olds play.  Million sellers don't make games great I can go find 100 of games that have sold and suck.

[QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

 

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

rexoverbey

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers.

Total ownage 

He didn't own anything for one he made paper mario out to be AAA.  It ain't AAA here sorry to say.  The rest are overated kid games that only 10 year olds play.  Million sellers don't make games great I can go find 100 of games that have sold and suck.

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"][QUOTE="Igwababa"][QUOTE="SmoothMoved"]

VG charts -

Super Mario Bros. 3 - 17.28 mill.

Halo & Halo 2 - 14.32

 

People it is true . Super Mario Bros. 3 > Halo franshise .

ShakeNBake1491

I ask you this, the xbox sold 20 million units, the NES sold 60 million units, can you really compare the two games if there was 40 million people more who had the option to buy the game. its like comparing a multiplatform games sales of the xbox version to the PS2 version.

Well Halo 2 holds the biggest 1 day total 2.4 million units at $125 milliion destryong any game in history. Super mario 3 sold around 17 milion with a console base of 60 million. That is a little less compared to the 7+ miliion on a 24million base. If you look at the latest mario releases non of them stack up to that. If I released worthless games like mario tennis, golf, baseball, paper, etc I bet I would sell a lot of units too.

Mario Tennis - 8.2, 8.9

Mario Golf - 8.7, 8.3

Mario Baseball - 8.0

Paper Mario - 9.4, 9.2, 8.8

Those games are far from worthless silly fanboy. Not to mention they are all million sellers.

Total ownage 

He didn't own anything for one he made paper mario out to be AAA.  It ain't AAA here sorry to say.  The rest are overated kid games that only 10 year olds play.  Million sellers don't make games great I can go find 100 of games that have sold and suck.

LOL paper mario scored 8.8 at gamespot that is not AAA by systemwar standards period.  If you want to go by other numbers go to another forum.  Else read the sticky on the systemwars front page.  He tried to use every version of paper mario because the last one didn't live upto the hype. If mario tennis, golf, etc is quality then you don't know what quality is.

LOL paper mario scored 8.8 at gamespot that is not AAA by systemwar standards period.  If you want to go by other numbers go to another forum.  Else read the sticky on the systemwars front page.  He tried to use every version of paper mario because the last one didn't live upto the hype. If mario tennis, golf, etc is quality then you don't know what quality is.rexoverbey

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