Sorry but nothing beat's the Snake Eater's song from MGS3 for ingame songs.
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Whoever said that orchestra could not go with futuristic science fiction? In this case, I guess it'd be me. Strings and brass are associated with the past and I've never seen a non-energy sword in the Halo universe, have you? If I see an iron sword lying around, I'm thinking of either a museum or medieval times. It's the time association that's the problem with orchestra and the future. And who dictated techno as the standard music of the future? That's an interesting question. Music might not evolve into what we expect it to be in the future just like we expected flying cars by now and totally did not get them. However, orchestra is definitely not what Iexpect, hence the immersion kill. I cannot stress the 'I expect' part enough. Orchestra will probably still be around, but as the standard musid of the future? I highly doubt that.
FrozenLiquid
My question was actually rhetorical.
The fact of the matter is, there is no right or wrong answer. There is such thing as 'music for the times'. That's just a product of your social upbringing. The reason dystopian futures and illegal sex are all the rage in sci-fi? Because we live in a very capitalist, very free market world. Music, like high concept ideas, is the same. Because we think of string instruments as analogue sound, and because digitalization is encroaching into our private spheres, it would seem likely, perhaps to a few pioneers of science fiction media, that techno music would be fitting in such a setting. However, again, it's only the idea of social conditioning and it does not make anything else less valid.
In fact, a juxtaposition of ideas can, for want of a better term, be very valid. What does Martin O'Donnell want to express taking on contemporary cIassical music in a military science fiction setting? He didn't do just because it sounded good; please, don't insult a musician's intelligence. There's a reason behind it, and while it may not be aesthetically pleasing to some, there's meaning behind it.
You say you thought 'museum' (wtf?!) and 'medieval times'. Not only does it not sound anything like most medieval music in form or structure, it's actually very modern. The most 'medieval' Halo ever got was that the choir sounded rather Gregorian, but as we all know, Halo has very religious connotations in its universe. Ah, so we can assume there's a reason for the chants ;). But what ideas do we have about 'medieval'? A dark, harsh period of struggle that has since been greatly romanticized? Crusades? Ha! We're getting there! Valor and knighthood! Honestly though, it doesn't sound anything medival so I'll stop there.
Mass Effect uses techno because it's premise (not the actual plot) is very much the discovery of technology: humans making contact with aliens for the very first time, how technology causes tension between races, which all inadvertently reflect the plot in the game.
Sorry if my reply sounds overkill but I think my love for music is unrivalled here. If it weren't for film, musicology (and dance) would consume my life :D
Good intelligent post, it's good to have people who can argue with intellect on this board. The orchestra music highlights the action more, to me, than the setting. There are a lot of sci-fi sounding moments in the games -- typically in the alien environments like a Forerunner artifact. However, this game is set more in a human urban tone, so alien/sci-fi music isn't all that needed.[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
sounds good but nothing special honeslty. nothing memorable here and its very slow.
JangoWuzHere
So it has to be a faster tempo to be special? Interesting.
Can you name a memorable game song that was very slow?To Zanarkand from Final Fantasy X
If you played FFX, you would remember this song within the first full second of listening.
Or, if you still want to go with Halo, the menu of Halo 3 has the song Never Forget which is also orchestrated by O'Donnel. A beautiful piece.
My question was actually rhetorical. Doesn't hurt to answer. I hate it when people avoid questions so I try not to do the same. 8)
The fact of the matter is, there is no right or wrong answer. Gotta love these moments...Not. >.> There is such thing as 'music for the times'. That's just a product of your social upbringing. The reason dystopian futures and illegal sex are all the rage in sci-fi? Because we live in a very capitalist, very free market world. Music, like high concept ideas, is the same. Because we think of string instruments as analogue sound, and because digitalization is encroaching into our private spheres, it would seem likely, perhaps to a few pioneers of science fiction media, that techno music would be fitting in such a setting. However, again, it's only the idea of social conditioning and it does not make anything else less valid.
In fact, a juxtaposition of ideas can, for want of a better term, be very valid. What does Martin O'Donnell want to express taking on contemporary cIassical music in a military science fiction setting? He didn't do just because it sounded good; please, don't insult a musician's intelligence. There's a reason behind it, and while it may not be aesthetically pleasing to some, there's meaning behind it. But what good is the reasoning if the average non-Halo fan (Personally, I'm far more of a Half-Life fan :D) cannot understand it? Could a musician not be put at fault if they're unable to bring out the themes one intended to or is it just that as long as one other person in the world understands it without being explained everything by the composer themself, it's alright? Each time and setting has it's own, for a lack of a better term, 'mainstream expectation', both within the player base and the development team. Staying out of the stream is trying to be different, and if you're going to be different, you'd better do a damn good job. Otherwise it'll be a waste and would negatively affect everything else that others worked hard on and in turn, negatively affect the average player's experience, namely mine.
Mandatory lol example: Techno in a Roman gladiator fighting game. I don't think anyone in the world would even dare to pull that off. :lol: The development team behind something like that would probably murder the composer for that.
I'll repeat that being different is great and all, but not when it could affect someone else's work. Composing stand-alone music and composing for a game or movie are two totally different things for that reason.
You say you thought 'museum' (wtf?!) A place that we'd see a sword in, even in the future.:lol: Looking back at my response, wow does 'museum' sound out of place. and 'medieval times'. Not only does it not sound anything like most medieval music in form or structure, it's actually very modern. The most 'medieval' Halo ever got was that the choir sounded rather Gregorian, but as we all know, Halo has very religious connotations in its universe. Ah, so we can assume there's a reason for the chants ;). But what ideas do we have about 'medieval'? A dark, harsh period of struggle that has since been greatly romanticized? Crusades? Ha! We're getting there! Valor and knighthood! Honestly though, it doesn't sound anything medival so I'll stop there. It was just an example of music with the times, specifically the era in which orchestra instruments became prominent in society (I think 'renaissance' was the word I was looking for? Hey! You're the music lover around here! :P), not the styIe in which they're used and what images the music portrays. Doesn't hurt to be thorough though, and thorough you are. Perhaps, too thorough to respond to without cop-outs...>.>
Mass Effect uses techno because it's premise (not the actual plot) is very much the discovery of technology: humans making contact with aliens for the very first time, how technology causes tension between races, which all inadvertently reflect the plot in the game.
Sorry if my reply sounds overkill but I think my love for music is unrivalled here. 9001% agreed. *bows down to Liquid* If it weren't for film, musicology (and dance) would consume my life :D
FrozenLiquid
Sorry for the late response. It was nearly 1:00 AM when I responded the other time and I haven't typed out anything longer than three or four sentences on System Wars in years. :P
It's a good track, but I don't think ODST will come close to the best game soundtrack.mo0ksi
There is no game with the "best soundtrack".
[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]It's a good track, but I don't think ODST will come close to the best game soundtrack.Cyberfairy
There is no game with the "best soundtrack".
of course there is there is a best everything[QUOTE="Yandere"]Show me your definition of good please.It was mediocre, not bad, but not good.
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Show me your definition of good please.[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="Yandere"]
It was mediocre, not bad, but not good.
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That was in the Believe trailer as well right? ya, but that just goes to probe that marty cant do it all for bungie, they need outside help from the greatsBut I love Marty's music:)[QUOTE="ujjval16"]
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this is quite good, but one can hardly compare marty to chopin
also: this is better :Pshadow_hosi
Pretty good but not as good as some of the other songs in the Halo games. The Halo games definitely have some of the best soundtracks in the industry.
Show me your definition of good please.[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="Yandere"]
It was mediocre, not bad, but not good.
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Is this a joke?No joke. :| I went into the song expecting some standard "Dum-dah DUM!, dum-Dah DUM, dum-dah dum, dumdumdumdum..." All that stuff. But I mean, DAMN, Marty, this doesn't even sound like Halo, more like Lord of the Rings! Here is a link to track 1, which I listened to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPtLnUXuA2M
Just wait till' the middle, it really picks up from there.
enterawesome
I still prefer the "Dum-dah DUM!, dum-Dah DUM, dum-dah dum, dumdumdumdum..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlDEwRRWtoE&feature=related
Track 2 is better.
Track 3 is good too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InO2eJodSHg&feature=related
I have bought every halo soundtrack and this one sounds like a buy too.
Show me your definition of good please.[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="Yandere"]
It was mediocre, not bad, but not good.
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This is way better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7w76B7fO_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTI8hqh6cI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19bl4_SDfI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related .....:PNothing beats that seriously gentlemen-ish jazz from bad company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTI8hqh6cI :D
Actually, I'm having doubts about whether this is even real. I mean why would only one guy of posted it on the internet? If it was real it would probably be all over youtube. Plus it doesn't sound like Halo music at all...angelkimneIt's real. This was also in the beta version of the halo 3 odst Menu.
Did Uematsu do the composing for that game? I'm also a fan of his work in FF games but I can't think of a memorable track from that game. i don't know anything about that =([QUOTE="MikeT072"][QUOTE="r-teest"]
Kingdom hearts 2 still takes the cake for me
r-teest
The composer for the KH games is Yoko Shimomura. I thought the soundtracks for KH and KHII are amazing IMO.
[QUOTE="Yandere"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Show me your definition of good please.Communistsheep
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This is way better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7w76B7fO_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTI8hqh6cI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19bl4_SDfI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related .....:P no, its really not. not 1 of the songs you linked will be listened to 160+ years from now. Chopin on the other hand. well. its quite obvious the answer to that.[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Show me your definition of good please.Communistsheep
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Is this a joke? all 3 of those songs are better than anything marty has madeActually, I'm having doubts about whether this is even real. I mean why would only one guy of posted it on the internet? If it was real it would probably be all over youtube. Plus it doesn't sound like Halo music at all...angelkimneIf you watch the latest episode of GTTV, geoff interviews marty about the music and marty explains how he's went for something different this time around as the games focus is not master chief like it has been the past three games.
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