Halo 3 vs Killzone 2 which is better?

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#1 GameHog9
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I havent seen one of these in a LLLLOOOONNNNGGGG time (corect me if im wrong...)

Lets add Half-Life for fun :)

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#2 Biotic2099
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Dont cows claim not to compare KZ2 to Halo 3? That KZ2 was never labelled as a Halo killer? By answering this pole arent cows actually admitting that KZ2 is better and thus "killed" Halo? :lol:
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#3 -Traveller-
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I only have one question. Why?

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#4 BobSacamento
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maan i just...

i've done both

halo 3 is such a better video game i hate the comparison

killzones graphics blow it the hell out of the water, but that - is - all

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#5 aaronmullan
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I haven't played KZ (though it looks phenominal). I have played Halo 3, the campaign was terribad, but the online was pretty damn fun.
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#6 NYrockinlegend
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Gamers really compare games? I'm sorry, I thought gamers PLAYED games. In this case, they should play both KZ2 and Halo 3, and judge them all fairly as if they were their own games. Anyway, Half-Life.:D
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#7 kidonre
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reviews: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>killzone 2

sales: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killzone2

which one gamers prefer: halo 3 >>>>>>>>>killzone 2

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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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We kinda have one of these on the 1st page man.
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#9 GameHog9
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reviews: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>killzone 2

sales: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killzone2

which one gamers prefer: halo 3 >>>>>>>>>killzone 2

kidonre

Hmmm... according to my poll, so far that isnt the case :roll:

But of course, it will change. Which will come out on top?

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#10 DonPerian
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Halo 3, here.

[QUOTE="kidonre"]

reviews: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>killzone 2

sales: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killzone2

which one gamers prefer: halo 3 >>>>>>>>>killzone 2

GameHog9

Hmmm... according to my poll, so far that isnt the case :roll:

But of course, it will change. Which will come out on top?

Because the poll reflects the real world, right? :roll:

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#11 kidonre
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[QUOTE="kidonre"]

reviews: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>killzone 2

sales: halo 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>killzone2

which one gamers prefer: halo 3 >>>>>>>>>killzone 2

GameHog9

Hmmm... according to my poll, so far that isnt the case :roll:

But of course, it will change. Which will come out on top?

10 million people disagree
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#12 BobSacamento
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but they don't matter

it's us folks here in system wars that decide the REAL winner

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#13 cowgriller
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GS sscore:

Halo 3: 9.5

killzone 2: 9.0

winner: halo 3

Metacritic score:

Halo 3: 94

killzone 2: 91

winner: Halo 3

Gamerankings score:

Halo 3: 93.33

killzone 2: 90.40

winner: Halo 3

Pre-orders:

Halo 3: 4 million globally

killzone 2: 1.1 million in europe. N/A in US and Japan

winner: Halo 3

Sales:

Halo 3: 2.4 million+ in just the US alone in 24 hours. >8 million lifetime.

killzone 2: 1.5 million global sales in 2 months (9weeks actually).

winner: Halo 3

Marketing:

Halo 3: Monday Night Football commercial, Mountain Dew Halo edition soda, toys, xbox 360 controllers designed by Art McFarland, a real life Warthog developed by Weta Studio, comic books, novels, an upcoming movie, etc.

killzone 2: one slow motion commercial...

winner: Halo 3


overall: Halo 3

edit:

f'ing glitchspot doesn't like space between paragraphs. all is now color-coded.

edit 2:i fixed the GS score for halo 3 from 9.8 to 9.5, i made one small but still quite large error.

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#14 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

maan i just...

i've done both

halo 3 is such a better video game i hate the comparison

killzones graphics blow it the hell out of the water, but that - is - all

you put it well i voted halo 3 even though pc shooters are better then console shooters so half life should win
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#15 NYrockinlegend
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So basically, if Halo 3 wins in every category, it's wrong to like KZ2 over it? Nope, doesn't convince me. I feel reviews are good reason to look at to consider buying games, but to compare success of games? (sighs) No. Most of my favorite games are AA games anyway, but it's usually only FPSs that score AAA on here. That's why I don't follow GS's ratings as much as IGN's. I don't follow the logic that "every shooter deserves AAA". R2 didn't do it for me as proof. And man, I fell for it, thanks to the beta.:( Insomniac made it too convincing, but after awhile, R2 just doesn't seem that great. I think it deserved more like A, if even that high. That's why I think shooters are overrated by critics, mainly GS to me. Not every AAA shooter is believable for its rating, yet just because a game has no MP a critic has to nitpick in several categories.
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#16 Ambli
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HOLY CRAP GET OFF KILLZONE 2 AND HALO 3S DICKS.

God these threads are annoying as hell.

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#17 bballm10
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I wonder how many of the people that answered this poll actually played all the games.

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#18 river_rat3117
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[QUOTE="Ambli"]

HOLY CRAP GET OFF KILLZONE 2 AND HALO 3S DICKS.

God these threads are annoying as hell.

lol yeah but people cant understad opinions=opinions not facts. besides SW would be dead without these two games
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#19 tmacscores91
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wow, this is much closer than I had expected, right now its 16-16

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[QUOTE="Biotic2099"]Dont cows claim not to compare KZ2 to Halo 3? That KZ2 was never labelled as a Halo killer? By answering this pole arent cows actually admitting that KZ2 is better and thus "killed" Halo? :lol:

Not really. Although, the TC is really more on the Cow's side he was at least decent to others be adding an other option (named Half-Life, Hermit's best claimed shooter except maybe Crysis.) This is just asking which everyone thinks (including cows and lemmings) is better. Would be awesome if Killzone 2 one, I'm sick of lemmings pushing cows around.
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#21 Avian005
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Halo 3 is overall a better game than Killzone 2.

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#22 -Traveller-
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I wonder how many of the people that answered this poll actually played all the games.

bballm10

At least 1, because I have :D

I voted for Half-Life.

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#23 Ross_the_B0SS
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Halo 3. I think you should have thrown in Half-Life 2 + Team Fortress 2 in there instead of Half-Life. It would've been more fair...and the clear winner.

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#24 BobSacamento
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yes i think we can all agree valves game blows both out of the water

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#25 DonMarkito
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wow, this is much closer than I had expected, right now its 16-16

tmacscores91
not surprising considering that more than 60% of members here are ps3 fanboys
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#26 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="tmacscores91"]

wow, this is much closer than I had expected, right now its 16-16

DonMarkito

not surprising considering that more than 60% of members here are ps3 fanboys

except during 2006 and 2007 when they went into hiding. as soon as mgs 4 got a 10, they came out the wood work. it was a stampede of cows and overinflated egos. it's stayed that way ever since.

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#27 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="tmacscores91"]

wow, this is much closer than I had expected, right now its 16-16

DonMarkito

not surprising considering that more than 60% of members here are ps3 fanboys

You know pulling numbers out of your *** leaves you with no creditability right?

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#28 themyth01
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Gamespot has ruled HALO 3 > KZ2, enough said. Gamespot is the law after all...

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#29 bokiloki
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why is this even an arguement when a multiplat in cod4 is the best console shooter so far. that being said Cod4> killzone 2> resistance 2> halo 3 imo

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#30 finalfantasy94
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lol we know we are never going to get a right or wrong answer. I see HL is on there. Ill choose that since the series actually has a good story.

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#31 Nerkcon
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Are the forums messed up... is Killzone 2 actually ahead?! O.O Maybe cows do make %60 of system wars...
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#32 OPuniverse
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HOLY CRAP GET OFF KILLZONE 2 AND HALO 3S DICKS.

God these threads are annoying as hell.

Ambli
this man speaks the truth. Make something news for once rather then these 2 games.
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#33 Mr_Nordquist
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Which are you? Cow, lemming, or hermit? Vote in this poll!

That's all this thread really is.

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Gears 2.

Now this thread will be awesomesauce!

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#35 McdonaIdsGuy
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Gears 2.

Now this thread will be awesomesauce!

Chutebox
Resident Evil 5 pwns these 3 games,FACT.
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#36 Zoso-8
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GS sscore:

Halo 3: 9.8

killzone 2: 9.0

winner: halo 3

Metacritic score:

Halo 3: 94

killzone 2: 91

winner: Halo 3

Gamerankings score:

Halo 3: 93.33

killzone 2: 90.40

winner: Halo 3

Pre-orders:

Halo 3: 4 million globally

killzone 2: 1.1 million in europe. N/A in US and Japan

winner: Halo 3

Sales:

Halo 3: 2.4 million+ in just the US alone in 24 hours. >8 million lifetime.

killzone 2: 1.5 million global sales in 2 months (9weeks actually).

winner: Halo 3

Marketing:

Halo 3: Monday Night Football commercial, Mountain Dew Halo edition soda, toys, xbox 360 controllers designed by Art McFarland, a real life Warthog developed by Weta Studio, comic books, novels, an upcoming movie, etc.

killzone 2: one slow motion commercial...

winner: Halo 3


overall: Halo 3

edit:

f'ing glitchspot doesn't like space between paragraphs. all is now color-coded.

cowgriller

Where on Earth did you come up with the GS score for Halo 3 being 9.8 :lol:. You also forgot KZ2 physics>Halo 3, KZ2 graphics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 3.

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[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

GS sscore:

Halo 3: 9.8

killzone 2: 9.0

winner: halo 3

Metacritic score:

Halo 3: 94

killzone 2: 91

winner: Halo 3

Gamerankings score:

Halo 3: 93.33

killzone 2: 90.40

winner: Halo 3

Pre-orders:

Halo 3: 4 million globally

killzone 2: 1.1 million in europe. N/A in US and Japan

winner: Halo 3

Sales:

Halo 3: 2.4 million+ in just the US alone in 24 hours. >8 million lifetime.

killzone 2: 1.5 million global sales in 2 months (9weeks actually).

winner: Halo 3

Marketing:

Halo 3: Monday Night Football commercial, Mountain Dew Halo edition soda, toys, xbox 360 controllers designed by Art McFarland, a real life Warthog developed by Weta Studio, comic books, novels, an upcoming movie, etc.

killzone 2: one slow motion commercial...

winner: Halo 3


overall: Halo 3

edit:

f'ing glitchspot doesn't like space between paragraphs. all is now color-coded.

Zoso-8

Where on Earth did you come up with the GS score for Halo 3 being 9.8 :lol:. You also forgot KZ2 physics>Halo 3, KZ2 graphics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 3.



Hmmm what so special about these Havoc Physics in KZ2? i find the Halo 3 physics better because the things from the enviroment can kill you,but in KZ2 the physics are only cosmetic feature..they don't do anything or cause damage to the player,and BTW you should've come with something better to counter back his post..

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#38 Racer_XLR
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I had no choice but to vote Half-Life. KZ2 is awesome, but I can't go against HL!
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#39 mitu123
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It seems like Halo 3 and Killzone 2 were meant to kill each other, eh?

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#40 Adamantium4k2
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Killzone2 1080p vs Halo 3 640p

Winner Killzone 2!

/Thread

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#41 mitu123
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Killzone2 1080p vs Halo 3 640p

Winner Killzone 2!

/Thread

Adamantium4k2
Killzone 2 isn't 1080p native, it's like 720p/1080i native, one of those at least.
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#42 McdonaIdsGuy
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Killzone2 1080p vs Halo 3 640p

Winner Killzone 2!

/Thread

Adamantium4k2
If KZ2 could be 1080p native you would be playing the game at 15fps or less,is 720p game.
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#43 LosDaddie
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Halo3 for these reasons:

  • Party System
  • No perks.......everyone is equal
  • 4 player co-op

KZ2 looks better, but lack of Party System made the game a rental for me.

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#44 AdoringFan_
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Killzone 2. Though I liked Halo 3's SP.

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#45 htekemerald
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Killzone 2 has graphics

Halo 3 has everything else.

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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

GS sscore:

Halo 3: 9.8

killzone 2: 9.0

winner: halo 3

Metacritic score:

Halo 3: 94

killzone 2: 91

winner: Halo 3

Gamerankings score:

Halo 3: 93.33

killzone 2: 90.40

winner: Halo 3

Pre-orders:

Halo 3: 4 million globally

killzone 2: 1.1 million in europe. N/A in US and Japan

winner: Halo 3

Sales:

Halo 3: 2.4 million+ in just the US alone in 24 hours. >8 million lifetime.

killzone 2: 1.5 million global sales in 2 months (9weeks actually).

winner: Halo 3

Marketing:

Halo 3: Monday Night Football commercial, Mountain Dew Halo edition soda, toys, xbox 360 controllers designed by Art McFarland, a real life Warthog developed by Weta Studio, comic books, novels, an upcoming movie, etc.

killzone 2: one slow motion commercial...

winner: Halo 3


overall: Halo 3

edit:

f'ing glitchspot doesn't like space between paragraphs. all is now color-coded.

McdonaIdsGuy

Where on Earth did you come up with the GS score for Halo 3 being 9.8 :lol:. You also forgot KZ2 physics>Halo 3, KZ2 graphics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 3.



Hmmm what so special about these Havoc Physics in KZ2? i find the Halo 3 physics better because the things from the enviroment can kill you,but in KZ2 the physics are only cosmetic feature..they don't do anything or cause damage to the player,and BTW you should've come with something better to counter back his post..

I actually think Halo 3 is better, but he didn't make a very good comparison ;).

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#47 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"] Where on Earth did you come up with the GS score for Halo 3 being 9.8 :lol:. You also forgot KZ2 physics>Halo 3, KZ2 graphics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Halo 3.

Zoso-8



Hmmm what so special about these Havoc Physics in KZ2? i find the Halo 3 physics better because the things from the enviroment can kill you,but in KZ2 the physics are only cosmetic feature..they don't do anything or cause damage to the player,and BTW you should've come with something better to counter back his post..

I actually think Halo 3 is better, but he didn't make a very good comparison ;).

actually it's a very accurate and sound comparison/argument, save for the 9.8 halo 3 score, which i fixed. thanks for pointing it out. i could've sworn GS said 9.8. oh well. the rest is still fact.

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#48 L30KinG
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iv never played halo and i dont want to so KILLZONE 2

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#49 Animal-Mother
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It seems like Halo 3 and Killzone 2 were meant to kill each other, eh?

mitu123
Sorta like how Icarus was meant to fly into the sun. I love both, though I do prefer KZ2 more. But honestly I think halo is like gears hyped to hell and back. KZ2 is begining to become that way.
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#50 HistoricalSD
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Halo 3, killzone 2 is - sadly - anoter rip off of the success that is halo franchise......