Unless either does something that redefines the genre, I'm guessing high AA low AAA. Zelda TP was an amazing adventure game, but I think that because it didn't push the genre here in the "next gen", gamespot lowered the score accordingly. Same could happen to either of those two.
Unless either does something that redefines the genre, I'm guessing high AA low AAA. Zelda TP was an amazing adventure game, but I think that because it didn't push the genre here in the "next gen", gamespot lowered the score accordingly. Same could happen to either of those two.
[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Halo 3 - 9.6 Gameplay - 9 Graphics - 10 Sound - 9 Value - 10 Tilt - 10 So Halo 3 will be the first Halo to not score a 10 in Gameplay?
[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Halo 3 - 9.6 Gameplay - 9 Graphics - 10 Sound - 9 Value - 10 Tilt - 10 So Halo 3 will be the first Halo to not score a 10 in Gameplay? Sure, why not? I never liked Halo's gameplay for some reason. Who knows, maybe a reviewer that agrees with me does the review?
[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Halo 3 - 9.6 Gameplay - 9 Graphics - 10 Sound - 9 Value - 10 Tilt - 10 So Halo 3 will be the first Halo to not score a 10 in Gameplay? No because Halo is a lie story. its not true
I like how people are giving expectations of 9.5 or higher for either game. C'mon, people, be more realistic. The highest I expect either of them to score is a 9.3. I don't think MGS4 will break 9.1.
[QUOTE="Chrome-Impala"][QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Halo 3 - 9.6 Gameplay - 9 Graphics - 10 Sound - 9 Value - 10 Tilt - 10 So Halo 3 will be the first Halo to not score a 10 in Gameplay? No because Halo is a lie story. its not true Wait:|...you mean fiction is a lie. :cry: Why didn't anyone tell me this!
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
Michael85
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Don't forget the Octocam, gun customization, the new CQC (can't wait to see it in action) etc...
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done.
Seeing as how graphics doesn't effect a score as much as others think it does, and seeing as how Halo has generally scored higher than MGS, I say Halo 3 will score higher. Why? Mainly because Gamespot pays heed to fun, general-public-friendly games. GTA and Halo are but some examples; not perfect in their own rights, but perfect for the general audience who wants that kind of fun. MGS...... see, not really. It's a pick and choose sort of game. The story itself is something that only Anime fans can truly appreciate (which is why I freakin' hate it.)
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
Michael85
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. Seeing as how the game is considered stealth action, why take away an element like hiding behind things (though it is outdated). I mean... I saw in a video that he hides under barrels still.... which is freakin' stupid either way, but... still
[QUOTE="Chloroformality"]Seeing as how graphics doesn't effect a score as much as others think it does, and seeing as how Halo has generally scored higher than MGS, I say Halo 3 will score higher. Why? Mainly because Gamespot pays heed to fun, general-public-friendly games. GTA and Halo are but some examples; not perfect in their own rights, but perfect for the general audience who wants that kind of fun. MGS...... see, not really. It's a pick and choose sort of game. The story itself is something that only Anime fans can truly appreciate (which is why I freakin' hate it.) Thats a very nice explination, and I have to agree. Even though Halo takes much more to become good at then GTA, GTA is the peoples game and while Halo appears to be, Halo can be very unforgiving if you're not good at it.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. 1. Octocam is more or less a mobile sticky cam from Splinter Cell. 2. Splinter Cell is already online.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
Chloroformality
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. Seeing as how the game is considered stealth action, why take away an element like hiding behind things (though it is outdated). I mean... I saw in a video that he hides under barrels still.... which is freakin' stupid either way, but... still Dude they aren't taking out anything, they are just adding more otions for you to hide. If you are tired of hiding behind things then use the octocam or hide inside something, that's all.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
tegovoltio
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. Seeing as how the game is considered stealth action, why take away an element like hiding behind things (though it is outdated). I mean... I saw in a video that he hides under barrels still.... which is freakin' stupid either way, but... still Dude they aren't taking out anything, they are just adding more otions for you to hide. If you are tired of hiding behind things then use the octocam or hide inside something, that's all. That's neat and all, but that's kind of been done already. Isn't this Kojima considered some sort of gaming genius?
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
Michael85
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. 1. Octocam is more or less a mobile sticky cam from Splinter Cell. 2. Splinter Cell is already online. mgs4 has all those features plus the extras i said before. it is a major improvement in stealth games. if you cant understand what those features bring to the table, then theres no reasoning with you.
[QUOTE="Michael85"] 1. Octocam is more or less a mobile sticky cam from Splinter Cell. 2. Splinter Cell is already online. Octo-cam is not a camera it's a camouflage.[QUOTE="Chloroformality"] That's neat and all, but that's kind of been done already. Isn't this Kojima considered some sort of gaming genius? I have yet to see another stealth game that uses the octocam.
mgs4-9.5 its going to change the way we play stealth games. sam fisher who?
halo3-9.0 it will look great and have plenty on replay value from its online mode. however, it doesnt look like the gameplay is going to change that much.
LoG-Sacrament
1. No it's not. Hiding in a barrel isn't going to change the way you play stealth games. 2. You're probably right. have you read anything on mgs4? instead of hallways and enemy bases, you snake will be fighting in a warzone with counties waging war. snake will be able to change sides mid fight. if your country of allegiance has 100men and the other country has 20 tanks, you can defect to the country with the tanks. and killing/stunning wont be the only way to dispatch enemies. fire a silenced shot at their feet and they will run away(this was the only such example given of scaring enemies, but kojima promises more). a lot will change. Okay. That's still not going to keep you from hiding behind walls, is it? There's not much more you can do as far as stealth is concerned that Splinter Cell's multiplayer hasn't already done. with octocam, you wont need to hide behind walls. also, mgs4 will be online too. 1. Octocam is more or less a mobile sticky cam from Splinter Cell. 2. Splinter Cell is already online. mgs4 has all those features plus the extras i said before. it is a major improvement in stealth games. if you cant understand what those features bring to the table, then theres no reasoning with you. My bad, I misinterpretted Octocam. It's more or less the stealth that was used in Splinter Cell's multi. Keep naming things off, you'll get to something Splinter Cell hasn't done. I'm pretty sure hiding in a barrel is one.
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"] mgs4 has all those features plus the extras i said before. it is a major improvement in stealth games. if you cant understand what those features bring to the table, then theres no reasoning with you. What are they? I haven't read up on MGS4 for a while. I'd like to know.
MGS4 -- If Kojima pulls it off right, finishes the story in a big way, with amazing graphics, solid gameplay, new mechanics to the metal gear solid series, online, etc I believe could pull off a 10/10 Halo 3, obviously will score above a 9/10 but how much higher than that we'll just have to wait and see. Everything shown so far looks just like the same old Halo game except with enhanced graphics and more weapons. I want to see how it'll really turn out. The story in 1 was better than 2 but they were both pretty weak. The online is going to definately appeal to a lot of people. I'm guessing from 9-9.6 maybe a little higher, but I can't see it as being a perfect 10
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