Halo 3 Vs. Unreal Tournament 3

[QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]i was using that as backup to the fact that halo 2 takes skill and teamwork. what else would i have posted to try to get my point across? Thompsonwhore

You could argue why it makes use of skill and teamwork...

so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

i didit everyday during the Halo 3 beta, i played BF2142 and Halo 3 beta regularly

I wasn't aware Halo 3 was already cross-platform and PC players could play console players.

And you played against other people using controllers, you never played against people using a mouse. There's a big difference.

i meant switching from controller to Mouse and keyboard

Unreal MIGHT have the same host advantage. I play unreal for PC all the time, and there is always little lag like in Gears. But multiplayer is the main key to unreal series, and i dont think they wanna make the same mistake twice with it and not clean up the multiplayer.

And one more thing, Unreal has 4 player coop mode through the entire story mode.... Rumor says Halo3 might have coop mode over xbox live, but it wasn't on the acheivement list to play coop mode, or beat coop mode with a friend, or 2 friends etc.. So in my opinion, i am looking forward to Unreals Multiplayer and Single Player way more than Halo3. But I will still be getting Halo3.

Warlock89

halo 2 has a really bad host advantage as well (BR cross-map). you cant really escape it in games without dedicated servers

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Thompsonwhore

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]i was using that as backup to the fact that halo 2 takes skill and teamwork. what else would i have posted to try to get my point across? _en1gma_

You could argue why it makes use of skill and teamwork...

so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

i didit everyday during the Halo 3 beta, i played BF2142 and Halo 3 beta regularly

I wasn't aware Halo 3 was already cross-platform and PC players could play console players.

And you played against other people using controllers, you never played against people using a mouse. There's a big difference.

i actually played many people in halo 2 using kb+m that were actually VERY could CS:S players.

not a difference between how they played before and after.

Since when did Halo 2 support a keyboard and mouse? And since you insisted on me watching that video, I insist that you down and watch both of these.

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=7905

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=6212

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

Yeah, you're right. I don't use controllers. I don't use them because they're pathetic at playing FPS.

And who the **** are you to say I don't have any skills? I've played in CAL-I for both FPS and RTS. What have you ever done?

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

id like to see him even attempt to claw double shot

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]i was using that as backup to the fact that halo 2 takes skill and teamwork. what else would i have posted to try to get my point across? Thompsonwhore

You could argue why it makes use of skill and teamwork...

so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

i didit everyday during the Halo 3 beta, i played BF2142 and Halo 3 beta regularly

I wasn't aware Halo 3 was already cross-platform and PC players could play console players.

And you played against other people using controllers, you never played against people using a mouse. There's a big difference.

i actually played many people in halo 2 using kb+m that were actually VERY could CS:S players.

not a difference between how they played before and after.

Since when did Halo 2 support a keyboard and mouse? And since you insisted on me watching that video, I insist that you down and watch both of these.

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=7905

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=6212

1)

2) that wasnt a competition. once again is about disproving your statment about halo and its "lack of required skill"

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="-Sora"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]i was using that as backup to the fact that halo 2 takes skill and teamwork. what else would i have posted to try to get my point across? Thompsonwhore

You could argue why it makes use of skill and teamwork...

so controllers dont count as skill? because i would beat you, very badly with a controller, meaning i have a higher skill than you do.Rob2223

The controller is an inferior product and too frusterating to switch over to that clumsy style of playing an FPS after becoming proficient with the mouse. But you go ahead and tell yourself that you have more skill than me.

i didit everyday during the Halo 3 beta, i played BF2142 and Halo 3 beta regularly

I wasn't aware Halo 3 was already cross-platform and PC players could play console players.

And you played against other people using controllers, you never played against people using a mouse. There's a big difference.

i actually played many people in halo 2 using kb+m that were actually VERY could CS:S players.

not a difference between how they played before and after.

Since when did Halo 2 support a keyboard and mouse? And since you insisted on me watching that video, I insist that you down and watch both of these.

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=7905

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=6212

That thing is a piece of ****. It has a horrible deadzone. Go read some reviews on how bad that thing is.

And I've said this twice already. Halo 2 does take skill. But Unreal Tournament takes more.

Thompsonwhore

exactly. you said that as a rebuttal. before that you said that halo didnt take skill, which is where i came in. you just turned everything into a childish competition

and about that device...my friends said it worked perfectly. and from the revies i just looked at, they agree.

they said they preferred it to the xbox controller and actually played better with it, however, to no great avail.

here are some reviews i dug up, btw

teamxbox:

OVERALL:8.9

Pros

• Performance (No Lag)
• Programming Mode
• Advanced Features (Deadzone, Invert Y Axis, Swap Move & Look)
• Price
• Improves Aiming

Cons

• Keyboard and Mouse Compatibility Issues
• Doesn't Work with All FPSs

gamershell:

Overall: 9.0

Conclusion:

The SmartJoy FRAG is a real treat for all those who are used to playing with keyboard and mouse. It helps all this unfortunate PC gamers who are dying to play some Halo or SOCOM but don't feel comfortable with the gamepad. Hong Kong based Lik-Sang is the world wide distributor of the SmartJoy FRAG so while you can ask for it in your local store you might as well order it directly with them.

ign:

Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

so he cant respond now? darn

[QUOTE="Warlock89"]Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal._en1gma_

so he cant respond now? darn

here are some reviews i dug up, btw

teamxbox:

OVERALL:8.9

Pros

• Performance (No Lag)
• Programming Mode
• Advanced Features (Deadzone, Invert Y Axis, Swap Move & Look)
• Price
• Improves Aiming

Cons

• Keyboard and Mouse Compatibility Issues
• Doesn't Work with All FPSs

gamershell:

Overall: 9.0

Conclusion:

The SmartJoy FRAG is a real treat for all those who are used to playing with keyboard and mouse. It helps all this unfortunate PC gamers who are dying to play some Halo or SOCOM but don't feel comfortable with the gamepad. Hong Kong based Lik-Sang is the world wide distributor of the SmartJoy FRAG so while you can ask for it in your local store you might as well order it directly with them.

ign:

8.5 Performance
Depends on the game, but it can be really damn good. 9.0 Features
Great configuration options; you can pretty much set it up however you want. 7.5 Ease of Use
Remembering the key configurations can be a pain, but everything else is super-easy. 9.0 Value
At under $30 this thing's a steal, assuming you have the right sofware. 8.5 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average) _en1gma_

Well I'm not talking about the one for the original Xbox, I'm talking about the XFPS. I can't get online with my original Xbox since I modded it. And the review of the XFPS are as follows.

"Of course, we're sure PC diehards could live with these issues as long as they get their accurate mouse aiming. It's a shame, then, that aiming with the mouse is nigh impossible. Put simply, the mouse aiming sucks, no matter what sensitivity you choose in the game. It's jerky, and minute corrections -- the kind you need to make headshots -- don't work at all. Games that have multiple degrees of sensitivity -- like Vegas and Halo -- work somewhat better, but games with only low, medium, and high settings don't work nearly as well. By the time we popped in Vegas -- a game where every shot counts --it became readily apparent that the XFPS was not the solution that FPS players were looking for. There's always the chance that it might work better with a different mouse, but we doubt it. The simple truth is that 360 games were designed for analog sticks, and trying to emulate those with a mouse doesn't work -- at least not with the XFPS."

Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

here are some reviews i dug up, btw

teamxbox:

OVERALL:8.9

Pros

• Performance (No Lag)
• Programming Mode
• Advanced Features (Deadzone, Invert Y Axis, Swap Move & Look)
• Price
• Improves Aiming

Cons

• Keyboard and Mouse Compatibility Issues
• Doesn't Work with All FPSs

gamershell:

Overall: 9.0

Conclusion:

The SmartJoy FRAG is a real treat for all those who are used to playing with keyboard and mouse. It helps all this unfortunate PC gamers who are dying to play some Halo or SOCOM but don't feel comfortable with the gamepad. Hong Kong based Lik-Sang is the world wide distributor of the SmartJoy FRAG so while you can ask for it in your local store you might as well order it directly with them.

ign:

8.5 Performance
Depends on the game, but it can be really damn good. 9.0 Features
Great configuration options; you can pretty much set it up however you want. 7.5 Ease of Use
Remembering the key configurations can be a pain, but everything else is super-easy. 9.0 Value
At under $30 this thing's a steal, assuming you have the right sofware. 8.5 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average) Thompsonwhore

Well I'm not talking about the one for the original Xbox, I'm talking about the XFPS. I can't get online with my original Xbox since I modded it. And the review of the XFPS are as follows.

"Of course, we're sure PC diehards could live with these issues as long as they get their accurate mouse aiming. It's a shame, then, that aiming with the mouse is nigh impossible. Put simply, the mouse aiming sucks, no matter what sensitivity you choose in the game. It's jerky, and minute corrections -- the kind you need to make headshots -- don't work at all. Games that have multiple degrees of sensitivity -- like Vegas and Halo -- work somewhat better, but games with only low, medium, and high settings don't work nearly as well. By the time we popped in Vegas -- a game where every shot counts --it became readily apparent that the XFPS was not the solution that FPS players were looking for. There's always the chance that it might work better with a different mouse, but we doubt it. The simple truth is that 360 games were designed for analog sticks, and trying to emulate those with a mouse doesn't work -- at least not with the XFPS."

Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

1) i dont care about you. the point is that the kb+m didnt increase my friends skill in halo (who are very good cs players)

2) bad words show unintelligence and whininess

3) i went to mlg dallas and plan to take the halo 3 tournies by storm with my newly formed sponsored team

4) yes we did. you jusy keep going in circles

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

here are some reviews i dug up, btw

teamxbox:

OVERALL:8.9

Pros

• Performance (No Lag)
• Programming Mode
• Advanced Features (Deadzone, Invert Y Axis, Swap Move & Look)
• Price
• Improves Aiming

Cons

• Keyboard and Mouse Compatibility Issues
• Doesn't Work with All FPSs

gamershell:

Overall: 9.0

Conclusion:

The SmartJoy FRAG is a real treat for all those who are used to playing with keyboard and mouse. It helps all this unfortunate PC gamers who are dying to play some Halo or SOCOM but don't feel comfortable with the gamepad. Hong Kong based Lik-Sang is the world wide distributor of the SmartJoy FRAG so while you can ask for it in your local store you might as well order it directly with them.

ign:

8.5 Performance
Depends on the game, but it can be really damn good. 9.0 Features
Great configuration options; you can pretty much set it up however you want. 7.5 Ease of Use
Remembering the key configurations can be a pain, but everything else is super-easy. 9.0 Value
At under $30 this thing's a steal, assuming you have the right sofware. 8.5 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average) _en1gma_

Well I'm not talking about the one for the original Xbox, I'm talking about the XFPS. I can't get online with my original Xbox since I modded it. And the review of the XFPS are as follows.

"Of course, we're sure PC diehards could live with these issues as long as they get their accurate mouse aiming. It's a shame, then, that aiming with the mouse is nigh impossible. Put simply, the mouse aiming sucks, no matter what sensitivity you choose in the game. It's jerky, and minute corrections -- the kind you need to make headshots -- don't work at all. Games that have multiple degrees of sensitivity -- like Vegas and Halo -- work somewhat better, but games with only low, medium, and high settings don't work nearly as well. By the time we popped in Vegas -- a game where every shot counts --it became readily apparent that the XFPS was not the solution that FPS players were looking for. There's always the chance that it might work better with a different mouse, but we doubt it. The simple truth is that 360 games were designed for analog sticks, and trying to emulate those with a mouse doesn't work -- at least not with the XFPS."

Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

1) i dont care about you. the point is that the kb+m didnt increase my friends skill in halo (who are very good cs players)

2) bad words show unintelligence and whininess

3) i went to mlg dallas and plan to take the halo 3 tournies by storm with my newly formed sponsored team

4) yes we did. you jusy keep going in circles

1. Well then there's two possibilities. a. Your friends were never as good as you claim they were or b. The thing sucked.

2. Says the guy who can't even use correct ****ing grammar. And who used the word whininess.

3. Yeah, I'm sure you're going to just own Team3D. I mean, they're only professionals. And you're you. You > them, obviously.

4. What have you disproved me on. Please, I eagerly want to see what it is you think you've actually accomplished so far.

And have you even downloaded either of those videos I linked yet?

[QUOTE="Warlock89"]Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Thompsonwhore

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

lol UT3 > halo

Epics been doing FPS for a long time.. way before halo even started. epic knows what fps fans want in their fps game and all the UT series kicked butt. halo = over rated by kids/amateurs and newbies that are new to the fps scene.

whats with these page screws up not showing posts oO

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

here are some reviews i dug up, btw

teamxbox:

OVERALL:8.9

Pros

• Performance (No Lag)
• Programming Mode
• Advanced Features (Deadzone, Invert Y Axis, Swap Move & Look)
• Price
• Improves Aiming

Cons

• Keyboard and Mouse Compatibility Issues
• Doesn't Work with All FPSs

gamershell:

Overall: 9.0

Conclusion:

The SmartJoy FRAG is a real treat for all those who are used to playing with keyboard and mouse. It helps all this unfortunate PC gamers who are dying to play some Halo or SOCOM but don't feel comfortable with the gamepad. Hong Kong based Lik-Sang is the world wide distributor of the SmartJoy FRAG so while you can ask for it in your local store you might as well order it directly with them.

ign:

8.5 Performance
Depends on the game, but it can be really damn good. 9.0 Features
Great configuration options; you can pretty much set it up however you want. 7.5 Ease of Use
Remembering the key configurations can be a pain, but everything else is super-easy. 9.0 Value
At under $30 this thing's a steal, assuming you have the right sofware. 8.5 OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average) Thompsonwhore

Well I'm not talking about the one for the original Xbox, I'm talking about the XFPS. I can't get online with my original Xbox since I modded it. And the review of the XFPS are as follows.

"Of course, we're sure PC diehards could live with these issues as long as they get their accurate mouse aiming. It's a shame, then, that aiming with the mouse is nigh impossible. Put simply, the mouse aiming sucks, no matter what sensitivity you choose in the game. It's jerky, and minute corrections -- the kind you need to make headshots -- don't work at all. Games that have multiple degrees of sensitivity -- like Vegas and Halo -- work somewhat better, but games with only low, medium, and high settings don't work nearly as well. By the time we popped in Vegas -- a game where every shot counts --it became readily apparent that the XFPS was not the solution that FPS players were looking for. There's always the chance that it might work better with a different mouse, but we doubt it. The simple truth is that 360 games were designed for analog sticks, and trying to emulate those with a mouse doesn't work -- at least not with the XFPS."

Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

1) i dont care about you. the point is that the kb+m didnt increase my friends skill in halo (who are very good cs players)

2) bad words show unintelligence and whininess

3) i went to mlg dallas and plan to take the halo 3 tournies by storm with my newly formed sponsored team

4) yes we did. you jusy keep going in circles

1. Well then there's two possibilities. a. Your friends were never as good as you claim they were or b. The thing sucked.

2. Says the guy who can't even use correct ****ing grammar. And who used the word whininess.

3. Yeah, I'm sure you're going to just own Team3D. I mean, they're only professionals. And you're you. You > them, obviously.

4. What have you disproved me on. Please, I eagerly want to see what it is you think you've actually accomplished so far.

And have you even downloaded either of those videos I linked yet?

1) they said it worked perfectly

2) sorry if i dont capitalize some words on the internet. and thanks for topic dodging

3) it isnt 3D anymore. it would be known as Final Boss. they are the best halo 2 team. i know that. i used to do ffa customs with them every now and then. i kinda dont play h2 anymore. im waiting for h3. my team just got sponsored. we are all h3 beta veterans clocking in it over 1000 games each on the beta. we are ahead of everyone for h3, on top of it all, ready to take mlg by storm come the right seasons. funny you would speak about this to me for the fact that you know nothing about halo and the professinal world of it.

4) open your eyes

yes. i know it takes skill. as i said, you posted those as a rebuttal to thin air - thinking of it as some sort of childish competition

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

[QUOTE="Warlock89"]Why the hell are you cussing at me? Just because you are being proven wrong and are crying, doesn't mean you need to try an insult me. I agree Unreal takes far more skill than Halo. I honestly am not a big fan of Halo. But you said "When did Halo2 support KB+M?" And i told you. Great reason to get in trouble buddy. Cheif. Pal.Warlock89

I cuss because it like to. Do you take offense to "bad words"?

And, crying? I think I'm keeping my cool pretty well for the **** I'm hearing from people who have never even been in leagues. It's frusterating and pathetic to think that I'm trying to prove a point to people who won't hear the argument any other way but their own.

And you didn't prove me wrong about anything thus far, so I would keep my attitude in check if I were you.

What, pray tell, have I proved myself wrong at.

And I presume your background because no one who has played games like Counter-Strike, UT or Quake would be so quick defend Halo 2 or say that the controller is just as good as a mouse.

Swearing doesn't make one less mature. It's those who are so conservative like yourself that need to grow up. To think that a few select words, out of the tens of thousands there are in the dictionary, could actually offend you, is amazing.

I look at from every perspective. I used to be an XBox and Halo fanboy. So don't tell me that I have no idea what I'm talking about.

And why should someone change their beliefs? Because refusing to believe anything but what you want to is called ignorance.

To think, this all started by me defending Unreal Tournament, and then you yourself admitted to UT taking more skill. And I've been the one to be proven wrong?

And if I recall, you're the one who tried to provoke me in the first place by being a smart*** saying that I owned myself.

1) they said it worked perfectly

2) sorry if i dont capitalize some words on the internet. and thanks for topic dodging

3) it isnt 3D anymore. it would be known as Final Boss. they are the best halo 2 team. i know that. i used to do ffa customs with them every now and then. i kinda dont play h2 anymore. im waiting for h3. my team just got sponsored. we are all h3 beta veterans clocking in it over 1000 games each on the beta. we are ahead of everyone for h3, on top of it all, ready to take mlg by storm come the right seasons. funny you would speak about this to me for the fact that you know nothing about halo and the professinal world of it.

4) open your eyes

yes. i know it takes skill. as i said, you posted those as a rebuttal to thin air - thinking of it as some sort of childish competition

_en1gma_

1. Well then they obviously are just bad players.

2. You were the one claiming I was unintelligent. But nice attempt to try and spin it around on me.

3. I know about professional gaming and all about Halo.

4. Open my eyes to what. To believe what you believe? That the Halo series is the most skillful, competitive game out there?

Great, I'm glad you acknowledge that it takes skill. Halo is childish compared to games like Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament and Quake.

"Swearing doesn't make one less mature. It's those who are so conservative like yourself that need to grow up. To think that a few select words, out of the tens of thousands there are in the dictionary, could actually offend you, is amazing."

You're going to have a rude awakening in the real world.

I'm out.

I ar winnar!Thompsonwhore

Dude, with that atitude your life is gonna turn out sh**. Insulting people, using strong words when discussing something as trivial as games. You started this debate, so it's in your park to prove these guys wrong. You need facts not just your opinion. The earth is flat I tell ya and if you say otherwise you are wrong. How did that work for you? I thought they started teaching argumenting in junior-high, where have you been? Oh, yeah!! You've been playing video-games, more kudos to you, punk!

I've been playing the UT series from the start, and though I had so much fun with the first one I thought it went downhill a little with the later games. But hopefully UT3 will be better.

Halo 3 has always had fun though. It's hard to give a reason why the game is so much fun...but it really is. Playing it 4 player totally makes the game, and UT won't have that which is a shame.

Both great games, but I'd take Halo 3 for the fun factor.

Unreal has a great multiplayer. Godly even. Halo has a great single player and great multiplayer. I go with Halo. jg4xchamp

Very true...

Halo 3 edges it for me. Unrealhas beenone of my fav online games ever but its never quite managed a decent SP mode even on the Unreal campaign games.

Halo 3 offers great multi and hopefully a great SP.

UT3. Just like UT2004 it'll have deep, high variety, high-skill multiplayer with extremely high replay value.

Halo 3 will probably be decent, but I doubt it'll even compare to UT3 in terms of multiplayer, which is the only aspect I even care about when it comes to shooters (there are a couple exceptions to this. Mainly FPS/RPG hybrids.) Cite Gamespot's award of multiplayer GOTY to Halo 2 over UT2004 all you want, anyone who's played both for an extended period of time knows UT2004 has more variety, far more depth (thereby extending the life of the game vastly) and is far more skill-oriented.

how can halo even match the redeemer? lol nothing beats that weapon, but i prefer halo over UT ( with the exception of UT2000 or whatever its called, which was the first game i got for my old comp)Kevanio

The Redeemer is lame -_- (it has no place in the game except maybe with vehicle gametypes)..weapons like the Shock Rifle, Flak Cannon and Bio Rifle are what define Unreal.

Silly question!!

UT3!!

Halo cannot compare to Unreal Tournament at all. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Not only is the gameplay nearly completely opposite, but Unreal Tournament is also far more skill based.

Thompsonwhore

oh really? well alot of people would say the opposite due to its slower gameplay

plus Halo is way more balanced, better designed vehicles that are implemented more cohesively than Epic effort

plus Halo has SP

HALO 3 will be a lot more meaningful and fun in both SP and MP than UT3 which has the lamest universe ever created not to mention some weaksauce weapons.

JiveT

I thought that was Halo?

And UT3 because Halo is overrated IMO

HALO 3 will be a lot more meaningful and fun in both SP and MP than UT3 which has the lamest universe ever created not to mention some weaksauce weapons.

JiveT

I hate to use this phrase, byt GTFO! :P thats so much blashpemy, I'm going to Flak Cannon your ass! :D

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HALO 3 will be a lot more meaningful and fun in both SP and MP than UT3 which has the lamest universe ever created not to mention some weaksauce weapons.

Meu2k7

I hate to use this phrase, byt GTFO! :P thats so much blashpemy, I'm going to Flak Cannon your ass! :D

Unreal MIGHT have the same host advantage. I play unreal for PC all the time, and there is always little lag like in Gears. But multiplayer is the main key to unreal series, and i dont think they wanna make the same mistake twice with it and not clean up the multiplayer.

And one more thing, Unreal has 4 player coop mode through the entire story mode.... Rumor says Halo3 might have coop mode over xbox live, but it wasn't on the acheivement list to play coop mode, or beat coop mode with a friend, or 2 friends etc.. So in my opinion, i am looking forward to Unreals Multiplayer and Single Player way more than Halo3. But I will still be getting Halo3.

Warlock89

Gears has NOTHING to do with Unreal Tournement 3 , UT3 uses the same GREAT netcode that UT2004 used and further improved on it according to the developer interviews, in the same interview it was said that Gears Multiplayer was rushed out the door due to release pressure and it wasnt up to thier standards.

All Non-dedicated servers WILL have host advantage, thats why its so funny Xbox players have to pay for such a shoddy service.

UT3 all the way!!! I just don't get why people love Halo so much UT has it beat in every single area in MP. Better weapons, better vehicles, more players, faster pace, better graphics etc. It's true Halo has SP but halo 2 SP was boring and the story got ridiculous. Even if Halo3 SP is great I'd still take UT3 since the MP is so much better and that's where I'll be spending the majority of my time. The best thing about it all is that you don't even need an expensive PC to play it. If you don't want to game on a PC then a PS3 will also allow you to play the game with KB/M and mods just like the PC version. Maybe some people just prefer their FPS to run rrreeeaaaalllllyyyyy sssssllllloooooowwwwww, and need auto aim for it to be any fun.

Gaaa, I love UT gameplay to death, but I just can not decide which system to by this for, 360 or PC.....ross131313

PC mate ... PC :D , it will sell better most likely on the PC (Like Command and Conquer 3) for awhile at least due to Halo 3 being thier obssesion :roll: , 360 isnt getting modes or Directx10 , and well ... Dedicated servers and clans? Need I say more!