Halo 3 will be hard pressed to get AAA

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]I'll say this, I agree with you. I dont think Game Spot will give halo3 aaa. The reason being is I predict this famous quote in the future " In the end, it's still just more halo." And Im a lemming. But I played the COD4 Beta, and while HALO is a better game to me, to alot of old halo fans in the beta, they are jumping ship. Alot are already on a new bandwagon. They all say they will buy halo3, but you know what Im saying. This game alone, COD4 will knock halo3 to either a or aa status with my vote being the latter of the two.lespaul1919

lol, are you serious? every person i run into is just "waiting for halo 3 to come out".

halo 3 will get AAA. its more or less set in stone.

"underworld x" before that. count those games. lord what were the other 3. hold on. im thinking. reeper something. my point is I said I love halo. Ive played over 6,000 games myself. Ive been ranked level 30 3 times. But the fact is the gaming community is a buzz about this f-n beta. you can also send me a friends invite so you can read right now that im on the beta. Or you can play a game with me in the beta right now, since you know im wrong. put up or shut up. that's " wyldstile 360" you have not read the buzz. Im using logic. I am a halo fanboy. like I said. It's my favorite game of all time. But im not so ignorant as to believe that a halo wont be challenged. I didnt say beat. If you played the beta you would know what people say right.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]I'll say this, I agree with you. I dont think Game Spot will give halo3 aaa. The reason being is I predict this famous quote in the future " In the end, it's still just more halo." And Im a lemming. But I played the COD4 Beta, and while HALO is a better game to me, to alot of old halo fans in the beta, they are jumping ship. Alot are already on a new bandwagon. They all say they will buy halo3, but you know what Im saying. This game alone, COD4 will knock halo3 to either a or aa status with my vote being the latter of the two.akuma303x

lol, are you serious? every person i run into is just "waiting for halo 3 to come out".

halo 3 will get AAA. its more or less set in stone.

"underworld x" before that. count those games. lord what were the other 3. hold on. im thinking. reeper something. my point is I said I love halo. Ive played over 6,000 games myself. Ive been ranked level 30 3 times. But the fact is the gaming community is a buzz about this f-n beta. you can also send me a friends invite so you can read right now that im on the beta. Or you can play a game with me in the beta right now, since you know im wrong. put up or shut up. that's " wyldstile 360" you have not read the buzz. Im using logic. I am a halo fanboy. like I said. It's my favorite game of all time. But im not so ignorant as to believe that a halo wont be challenged. I didnt say beat. If you played the beta you would know what people say right.

i played you yesterday........cuz i was like WTF this dude is ripping off my name.

AAA easily. Everyone who does not think so is just going to get owned again.Cubs360

how do you know?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]Why fix what isn't broken?

The gameplay in the Halo-games has been nothing short of perfect. It's not the easiest task to improve upon an already mastered formula and even so, Bungie has IMO delivered in this aspect with the inclusion of equipments, FORGE, new vehicles, new weapons, new gamemodes etc.

lespaul1919

i have said it before, ill say it again. halo 1 had PERFECT gameplay.

:lol: Recoiless Machine Gun , and a Pistol that could hit a target a mile away and still do huge damage .... please... I could name a few 100 more things wrong with it.... then again you didnt see the online side of it to judge on what you consider balanced gameplay.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]Why fix what isn't broken?

The gameplay in the Halo-games has been nothing short of perfect. It's not the easiest task to improve upon an already mastered formula and even so, Bungie has IMO delivered in this aspect with the inclusion of equipments, FORGE, new vehicles, new weapons, new gamemodes etc.

Meu2k7

i have said it before, ill say it again. halo 1 had PERFECT gameplay.

:lol: Recoiless Machine Gun , and a Pistol that could hit a target a mile away and still do huge damage .... please... I could name a few 100 more things wrong with it.... then again you didnt see the online side of it to judge on what you consider balanced gameplay.

i play it online everyday. its perfectly balanced and is the perfect multiplayer game.

Bungie states: "Halo 2 was a fantastic game, evidenced by its review scores and the fact that about 300k people still play it every day. But it contained compromises we could never have been happy with. There were compromises that many would never have noticed nor complained about and there were compromises you did notice and were entitled to complain about. After all, games aren't free. Hard as we work to make them perfect, we never forget that they cost you money. We understand that we're not doing you a favor. For your hard-earned lucre, we're providing goods and services and we owe you the highest quality for both. With Halo 3 however, there are no glaring compromises, and almost no invisible ones. We've not only executed on all the stuff we wanted to for Halo 2, we've executed on a bunch of stuff that seemed like pipe dreams three years ago. The shopping list of features is crazy. Campaign, 4 player co-op, Team Scoring, Saved Films, Forge, Multiplayer, File Sharing, the new Bnet." :D :D :Ddlind70

I don't understand this new paranoia in Gamespot; that games should be innovative (something that's very hard to do these days) in order to gain an AAA rating. If there's one game that I can safely bet on it getting an AAA score, it's Halo 3. People who say "it's more of the same" obviously haven't been following up on Halo 3. As mentioned in the quote, the game's features are crazy. It's truly a fully-featured game that is just giving you everything you'd want from a shooter.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]Why fix what isn't broken?

The gameplay in the Halo-games has been nothing short of perfect. It's not the easiest task to improve upon an already mastered formula and even so, Bungie has IMO delivered in this aspect with the inclusion of equipments, FORGE, new vehicles, new weapons, new gamemodes etc.

lespaul1919

i have said it before, ill say it again. halo 1 had PERFECT gameplay.

:lol: Recoiless Machine Gun , and a Pistol that could hit a target a mile away and still do huge damage .... please... I could name a few 100 more things wrong with it.... then again you didnt see the online side of it to judge on what you consider balanced gameplay.

i play it online everyday. its perfectly balanced and is the perfect multiplayer game.

You, might want to look up the difference between perfect and favouritism....

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]

lespaul1919

i played you yesterday........cuz i was like WTF this dude is ripping off my name.

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

lespaul1919

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

It is Halo3 it got AAA as default already :)aroxx_ab

No game has AAA as default. NO GAME.

Well, let's look at it this way shall we.

Metroid Prime 3 did not score AAA yet the improvement in graphics and the excellent lighting, the fluid and almost flawless control scheme and an excellent storyline that twists and turns as you play through the game was excellentyet GS obviously did not feel it deserved AAA status for it.

Medal of Honour and Stranglehold both bombed with 7.0's, Bioshock was also underrated and should have gotten a 9.5 as far as I am concerned. However when we look at Halo 3, there is nothing really new about the game, which is why MOH and Stranglehold flopped, because they were lackluster games with nothing new or they lacked good features. Halo 3 has nothing new that makes it revolutionary and I think that is what GS is looking for when it comes to giving FPS's AAA, especially in one of the genres that has become rediculously over saturated with games. Sure Halo 3 will have the Forge application which I do not think has been done on consoles, but a lot of PC games have had that for years with map editors, and it will not be the only game on consoles to have something like it, as UT3 will no doubt have a map editor for the PS3.

Halo 3 will no doubt have all the things the series has achieved but that is it, lemmings should really just change their hype to AA because at this rate and based on reviews are far more innovative FPS's, Halo 3 will not be AAA and if it is it will only be a 9.

Thoughts?

DSgamer64

I understand your point, but there are several reasons why are you are wrong.

1) Bioshock has beautiful visuals and an innovative and complex storyline, but it isn't without it's faults. Bioshock lacks multiplayer and it's gameplay suffers by the guns in the game notalways feeling powerful (a cardinal sin in a first person shooter), enemies who get progressively stronger while looking the same throughout the game, and a respawn feature that takes away much of the challenge and satisfaction of progressing in the game.

2) Metroid Prime 3 also lacks multiplayer, and it's controls suffer in a few areas. It's "improved" control scheme makes the game play like a typical FPS, and according to the the Gamespot reviewer, makes the game feel like less of an adventure. In addition, enemies can be too easy.

Halo 3 has a number of distinguishing characteristics:

-Halo 3 will have a fantastic multiplayer element, including 4-player online co-op and the ability to customize levels while playing with friends (like Little Big Planet). This will keep players enjoying the game long after they finish the single player game alone.

- Halo 3 will have a revolutionary video feature, allowing players to save their favorite moments in both single-player and multi-player (from a variety of viewing angles) and send them to their friends or upload them to the Bungie Website. You can even take high-resolution screenshots that you can upload to your personal Halo 3 page.

- Halo 3 will also have some of the most detailed stat tracking available, including medals for pulling off certain types of kills in multiplayer and points for playing skillfully in single-player campaign co-op.

- Halo 3 will also allow you to form clans, like Halo 2, so you can play with a persistent set of friends to your liking.

- Enemy A.I. - Halo has long had some of the best enemy artificial intelligence ever shown in a FPS. Halo 3 looks to extend that tradition. EGM gave Halo 3 the best A.I. award at E3 07. (Killzone got an award for the worst, which is kind of funny) And the difficulty of the game is very scalable, from easy to extremely difficult. Great enemy A.I. makes every battle a unique experience, and a challenge.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

Meu2k7

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

i can see from this post you know nothing about halo. the reason they hit is a thing called "bullet lag". you have to lead. quite a bit. as most of the shots show. learning to lead is quite hard actually.

easiest? lol, play me.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]

akuma303x

i played you yesterday........cuz i was like WTF this dude is ripping off my name.

what sarcasm?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

lespaul1919

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

i can see from this post you know nothing about halo. the reason they hit is a thing called "bullet lag". you have to lead. quite a bit. as most of the shots show. learning to lead is quite hard actually.

easiest? lol, play me.

Ummm Bullet lag is in every game, the reason it hits so easily on Halo is because of the Hitbox sizes and the size of the pistol bullet's hitboxes ... besides bullet lag to that degree? Are you freaking kidding me? I could see that happening with the sniper rifle at a huge distance ... but pistol shots close by ..

Play you ..., thats like me saying "play me on UT2004 or Battlefield or Counter-Strike ... because I play it the most therefore I win by practice :I".

I'm saying it how it is, wether you take it as an insult is your own beef, Halo is the easiest FPS I have ever played.

riiiiiiight. who did you play? i bet you never even played halo 1 online, and if you did it was against complete noobs.

and the hitbox this is WAY wrong. thats halo 2, not halo 1. halo PC has even smaller hitboxes than halo xbox.

and the playing me thing isn't to prove who is better, its to prove to you that it isn't easy.

also, the bullet lag in other games is NOTHING compared to halo PC.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

Meu2k7

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

i can see from this post you know nothing about halo. the reason they hit is a thing called "bullet lag". you have to lead. quite a bit. as most of the shots show. learning to lead is quite hard actually.

easiest? lol, play me.

Ummm Bullet lag is in every game, the reason it hits so easily on Halo is because of the Hitbox sizes and the size of the pistol bullet's hitboxes ... besides bullet lag to that degree? Are you freaking kidding me? I could see that happening with the sniper rifle at a huge distance ... but pistol shots close by ..

Play you ..., thats like me saying "play me on UT2004 or Battlefield or Counter-Strike ... because I play it the most therefore I win by practice :I".

I'm saying it how it is, wether you take it as an insult is your own beef, Halo is the easiest FPS I have ever played.

Just because Halo's gameplay is easily accessible doesn't mean it doesn't require skill to be on top. Even my younger brother, who's a hardcore tournament UT2K4 player and is part of the largest Unreal Tournament community(his clan won a US tournament in May) appreciates Halo's gameplay and it's his second favorite MP. There's a reason Halo is a top MLG game...and there's a reason for Matchmaking.

halo PC bullet lag:

now, show me another game where you lead like that. :lol:

^and yeah, halo has a HUGE skill gap. as good as i am i still get wrecked by the real pros

True true the biggest problem I see with this game is that it doesnt make great strides in any category.

The graphics are improved over Halo 2 by not by much

Those who have played it say the gameplay hasn't changed much

There is a forge and video capture mode, but as TC said PC first person shooters have had thsoe features for ages now

Look forward to a 9.0-9.3 score

DarthaPerkinjan

I agree with you about not striving in any one big field, maybe its an all rounder hmm ? ;)

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

kankthetank

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

i can see from this post you know nothing about halo. the reason they hit is a thing called "bullet lag". you have to lead. quite a bit. as most of the shots show. learning to lead is quite hard actually.

easiest? lol, play me.

Ummm Bullet lag is in every game, the reason it hits so easily on Halo is because of the Hitbox sizes and the size of the pistol bullet's hitboxes ... besides bullet lag to that degree? Are you freaking kidding me? I could see that happening with the sniper rifle at a huge distance ... but pistol shots close by ..

Play you ..., thats like me saying "play me on UT2004 or Battlefield or Counter-Strike ... because I play it the most therefore I win by practice :I".

I'm saying it how it is, wether you take it as an insult is your own beef, Halo is the easiest FPS I have ever played.

Just because Halo's gameplay is easily accessible doesn't mean it doesn't require skill to be on top. Even my younger brother, who's a hardcore tournament UT2K4 player and is part of the largest Unreal Tournament community(his clan won a US tournament in May) appreciates Halo's gameplay and it's his second favorite MP. There's a reason Halo is a top MLG game...and there's a reason for Matchmaking.

I never said it wasnt good, but perfect? ... far from it ... very far.

And umm, "better players" has nothing to do what I'm talking about, ofcourse theres a gap between players, if lespaul wasnt better than the average player considering if what he says about playing so often is true ... I would be seriously worried.

But all the mechanics for Halo are very forgiving, and some very unforgiving UNBALANCES liek the sniper rifle ... its just ridiculous... claiming ownage witha sniper rifle on Halo is isntant Phail. (PC Version)

Just because Halo's gameplay is easily accessible doesn't mean it doesn't require skill to be on top. Even my younger brother, who's a hardcore tournament UT2K4 player and is part of the largest Unreal Tournament community(his clan won a US tournament in May) appreciates Halo's gameplay and it's his second favorite MP. There's a reason Halo is a top MLG game...and there's a reason for Matchmaking.

kankthetank

I agree with you. It's nice that the game is easily accessible. People forget that Halo multiplayer is based off of a ranking system, so the best players are paired with other players of a similar skill level. If you don't play Halo very often, chances are you will be playing against people who aren't very good, thus making Halo seem easy.

I can honestly say, however, that Halo is not easy against skilled players. The game has excellent gameplay.

[QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/3pCojt7EiZU.html

my halo PC montage. PERFECT GAMEPLAY.

Meu2k7

That just prooves my point further ... EASIEST gameplay ever created, its hard to find someone that cant make kills in the game, hit boxes are huge, weapons are ridiculously powerful considering your in super suits.

Half the pistol shots hit out of the ring circle ... yea anyone can make a killing spree video on Halo online.

i can see from this post you know nothing about halo. the reason they hit is a thing called "bullet lag". you have to lead. quite a bit. as most of the shots show. learning to lead is quite hard actually.

easiest? lol, play me.

Ummm Bullet lag is in every game, the reason it hits so easily on Halo is because of the Hitbox sizes and the size of the pistol bullet's hitboxes ... besides bullet lag to that degree? Are you freaking kidding me? I could see that happening with the sniper rifle at a huge distance ... but pistol shots close by ..

Play you ..., thats like me saying "play me on UT2004 or Battlefield or Counter-Strike ... because I play it the most therefore I win by practice :I".

I'm saying it how it is, wether you take it as an insult is your own beef, Halo is the easiest FPS I have ever played.

Just because Halo's gameplay is easily accessible doesn't mean it doesn't require skill to be on top. Even my younger brother, who's a hardcore tournament UT2K4 player and is part of the largest Unreal Tournament community(his clan won a US tournament in May) appreciates Halo's gameplay and it's his second favorite MP. There's a reason Halo is a top MLG game...and there's a reason for Matchmaking.

I never said it wasnt good, but perfect? ... far from it ... very far.

And umm, "better players" has nothing to do what I'm talking about, ofcourse theres a gap between players, if lespaul wasnt better than the average player considering if what he says about playing so often is true ... I would be seriously worried.

But all the mechanics for Halo are very forgiving, and some very unforgiving UNBALANCES liek the sniper rifle ... its just ridiculous... claiming ownage witha sniper rifle on Halo is isntant Phail. (PC Version)

I do agree with you...(except the bit about the Sniper)...I never said it was perfect and personally, I like Unreal Tournament's multiplayer more than Halo's, but it too is amazing, and I'm just trying to say that as agame, Halo 3 is more like a package. Anyway, Bungie has addressed a lot of the balancing issues in the first 2 games, and they've gotten a lot of feedback from the Beta. It's most likely that Halo 3's MP will be a lot more balanced than both 1 and 2.

here is a nice compilation of lead headshots i put together the other night. tell me these were easy shots. TELL ME.

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/u4Aa8lDESOc.html

especially when i dome them and you dont even see them....at all.

2 minutes ... Pistol Killing spree ... I dont care what the calibur of the players were Halo is ridiculously easy.

Does that make me l33t sawce!? no .. does it make Halo the god forbid easiest noob friendly FPS ever? Yes.

ummm, no. the snipe required more skill than most FPS's. for gods sake a BODYSHOT kills in CS. A BODYSHOT. WOW. at least in halo you have to headshot and then add 10 feet of lead to that. yeah, SO EASY. :?lespaul1919

Ummm ... Battlefield, UT , Wolfenstien to name a few were much more unforgiving on recooil and accuracy than halo ...

A body shot with a high-power sniper would kill you in real life? thats what CS aims for ... In Halo u can spam shoot a tard at close range with the sniper rifle and kill.

not really. since you obviously have halo PC. lets play.

know whats better than your killing spree on complete nooblets? my post game....beating leets. :D

Resistance = 8.6 here All halo 3 has over Resistance is Forge editor and image/video saves does it not? Is that worth the extra pts? gamer620

You know this because you have played the full version of Halo 3?

Bioshock is pretty much overated... the game is great, but where it losses major points is the replay value... once I played through the first 20 hours... I have no desire to go back through the same game again... and its hardly as random as I hoped it would be. Halo 3 has a longer campaign and the most massive multiplayer on a console game... combined with forge and video replay.. regardless of what it scores, ill be playing this game for the next 3 years.

currently I think the best xbox 360 game is shadowrun...have logged about 3x the hours and fun then bioshock or gears of war.

[QUOTE="gamer620"]Resistance = 8.6 here All halo 3 has over Resistance is Forge editor and image/video saves does it not? Is that worth the extra pts? eastside49er

You know this because you have played the full version of Halo 3?

Im basing everything off of the previews given that say "forge and image saves are the only innovations to the game" in more or less words.

And the funny thing is you probably think I havea PS3, when actually I only own a 360 and have a pre-order. zOMG a 360 owner doesn't think Halo 3 is AAA. Ive thoguht the game has been overrated from the original.

not really. since you obviously have halo PC. lets play.

know whats better than your killing spree on complete nooblets? my post game....beating leets. :D

lespaul1919

How do you specificle find L33ts on Halo?

[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="gamer620"]Resistance = 8.6 here All halo 3 has over Resistance is Forge editor and image/video saves does it not? Is that worth the extra pts? gamer620

You know this because you have played the full version of Halo 3?

Im basing everything off of the previews given that say "forge and image saves are the only innovations to the game" in more or less words.

And the funny thing is you probably think I havea PS3, when actually I only own a 360 and have a pre-order. zOMG a 360 owner doesn't think Halo 3 is AAA. Ive thoguht the game has been overrated from the original.

I dont know if resistance has 4 player online co-op that you can turn on team scoring to make the campaign far more competitive either? i honestly dont know but no one ever talks about the scoring in co-op!! am i the only one excited for this?

Halo 3 adds many new things to the franchise:

Forge mode (kinda like G-mod...allows player to edit the things on the map as well as add things to it....while people are playing in it),

4 player co-op,

Equipment (i.e. Portable Grav Lift, Bubble Shield, Portable Turret, Energy Drainer, Trip Mines,Flare, etc...),

Meta Games (now the game scores you on how you play...adding to the replayability and creating some achievement opportunities :)),

Saved Films (allows you to save Singleplayer and Multiplayer footage, change camera angles, focus on different people, record, take screenshots, play it in slow motion, fast forward, send it to friends, upload on sites,etc),

Ability to create your own powerups in multiplayer,

A changed control scheme that feels much better yet still Halo-like

Everything is now destructable (Like Dropships and Scarabs)

Rip out turrets and move in third person(not a HUGE thing, but still adds some strategy and change in gameplay)

Tons of new vehicles (Hornet, Prowler, Elephant, Brute Chopper, Mongoose, etc...)

New weapons (Spartan Laser, Gravity hammer, Flamethrower, Mauler, Brute Spiker, Spike Grenades, Flame Grenades, and modifications to old weapons like the new and improved Assault Rifle, the more powerful and un-duel-wieldable Needler, etc)

Many new Multiplayer Gamemodes (i.e infestation, Mosphit, VIP, etc)...not to mention that you could create your own)

AI is vastly improved (Brute Packs, formations, enemy reacts to different situations accordingly and most importantly, are much more aggresive and smart overall)

New and improved enemies

Over 40,000 combat Dialogue ALONE that immerses player into the experience and setting

The end to a truly epic storyline, as well as answers to mysteries such as the Flood, Forerunners, the mysterious connection between humans and forerunner, etc..

Graphics are improved and look beautiful (HDR, crisp and clean textures, Real time reflections off anything metallic as well as Chief's visor, Realistic Physics, Realistic Water effects and physics, Nice smooth framerate that looks and feels over 30FPS, realistic vegetation, etc)

Achievements :)

And many more things we'll see when the game comes out.

Not to mention the game plays like the other halos, so the superb gameplay elements from the past are still there.

I don't want a whole change in the Halo series. Only additions. So I don't need innovation when it comes to Halo. Only evolution.

[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="gamer620"]Resistance = 8.6 here All halo 3 has over Resistance is Forge editor and image/video saves does it not? Is that worth the extra pts? gamer620

You know this because you have played the full version of Halo 3?

Im basing everything off of the previews given that say "forge and image saves are the only innovations to the game" in more or less words.

And the funny thing is you probably think I havea PS3, when actually I only own a 360 and have a pre-order. zOMG a 360 owner doesn't think Halo 3 is AAA. Ive thoguht the game has been overrated from the original.

Innovation doesn't mean jack crap when it comes to fun. Seriously. I haven't played a truly GOOD innovated game in probably 8 or 9 years. Sure there are many innovated games out there, but that doesn't mean they are any good. Plus when it comes to a series and that series has a winning formula, ie, every game gets great reviews and that game sales a ton, they don't change much with that formula. Any one who thinks Halo 3 is just going to be a completely different FPS experience is just plain ignorant. There will be slight differences, like better AI, better graphics, more vehicles, more weapons, 4 player on-line co-op, etc.

And from the previews I have read, Halo 3 sounds like it is going to be far and away the best in the series and have 1000X more depth than the other two games combined, meaning it will garner lots and lots of props from around the gaming community.

Halo 3 adds many new things to the franchise:

Forge mode (kinda like G-mod...allows player to edit the things on the map as well as add things to it....while people are playing in it),

4 player co-op,

Equipment (i.e. Portable Grav Lift, Bubble Shield, Portable Turret, Energy Drainer, Trip Mines,Flare, etc...),

Meta Games (now the game scores you on how you play...adding to the replayability and creating some achievement opportunities :)),

Saved Films (allows you to save Singleplayer and Multiplayer footage, change camera angles, focus on different people, record, take screenshots, play it in slow motion, fast forward, send it to friends, upload on sites,etc),

Ability to create your own powerups in multiplayer,

A changed control scheme that feels much better yet still Halo-like

Everything is now destructable (Like Dropships and Scarabs)

Rip out turrets and move in third person(not a HUGE thing, but still adds some strategy and change in gameplay)

Tons of new vehicles (Hornet, Prowler, Elephant, Brute Chopper, Mongoose, etc...)

New weapons (Spartan Laser, Gravity hammer, Flamethrower, Mauler, Brute Spiker, Spike Grenades, Flame Grenades, and modifications to old weapons like the new and improved Assault Rifle, the more powerful and un-duel-wieldable Needler, etc)

Many new Multiplayer Gamemodes (i.e infestation, Mosphit, VIP, etc)...not to mention that you could create your own)

AI is vastly improved (Brute Packs, formations, enemy reacts to different situations accordingly and most importantly, are much more aggresive and smart overall)

New and improved enemies

Over 40,000 combat Dialogue ALONE that immerses player into the experience and setting

The end to a truly epic storyline, as well as answers to mysteries such as the Flood, Forerunners, the mysterious connection between humans and forerunner, etc..

Graphics are improved and look beautiful (HDR, crisp and clean textures, Real time reflections off anything metallic as well as Chief's visor, Realistic Physics, Realistic Water effects and physics, Nice smooth framerate that looks and feels over 30FPS, realistic vegetation, etc)

Achievements :)

And many more things we'll see when the game comes out.

Not to mention the game plays like the other halos, so the superb gameplay elements from the past are still there.

I don't want a whole change in the Halo series. Only additions. So I don't need innovation when it comes to Halo. Only evolution.

onomatopoea

I stamp my seal of approval to this post. Your last sentence is exactly why Bungie is doing everything right this time around. They haven't changed the core gameplay of Halo (otherwise they'll piss off one hell of a fanbase) but just evolved it into this fully-featured awesomeness of a package. Plus, they're promising a great single-player campaign with a closure that will "end with a bang".

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

not really. since you obviously have halo PC. lets play.

know whats better than your killing spree on complete nooblets? my post game....beating leets. :D

Meu2k7

How do you specificle find L33ts on Halo?

play it, meet people. learn who the good players and clans are. there are VERY few pubs that leets go into. KNFr is the main one. and its not even a pub anymore, you only get to play in it if you are ASKED to play in it.

but, there are real pros that destroy good players. they are few and far between anymore....but its pure domination when they enter the server. very depressing. like o' thorn comes in every once in a while and drops a 75-8 on people. ONCE i almost beat him tho. he got 25, i got 24. :(

^and yeah, that was a really good post.

Well, let's look at it this way shall we.

Metroid Prime 3 did not score AAA yet the improvement in graphics and the excellent lighting, the fluid and almost flawless control scheme and an excellent storyline that twists and turns as you play through the game was excellentyet GS obviously did not feel it deserved AAA status for it.

Medal of Honour and Stranglehold both bombed with 7.0's, Bioshock was also underrated and should have gotten a 9.5 as far as I am concerned. However when we look at Halo 3, there is nothing really new about the game, which is why MOH and Stranglehold flopped, because they were lackluster games with nothing new or they lacked good features. Halo 3 has nothing new that makes it revolutionary and I think that is what GS is looking for when it comes to giving FPS's AAA, especially in one of the genres that has become rediculously over saturated with games. Sure Halo 3 will have the Forge application which I do not think has been done on consoles, but a lot of PC games have had that for years with map editors, and it will not be the only game on consoles to have something like it, as UT3 will no doubt have a map editor for the PS3.

Halo 3 will no doubt have all the things the series has achieved but that is it, lemmings should really just change their hype to AA because at this rate and based on reviews are far more innovative FPS's, Halo 3 will not be AAA and if it is it will only be a 9.

Thoughts?

DSgamer64

decent post but i honestly almost stopped reading when you compared halo 3 to stranglehold and medal of honor. i mean medal of honor is another rehash of CoD2 and im pretty sure the GS reviewers dont want to play another second of a WW2 shooter. and look at what stranglehold scored even though the SP is ok and the MP sucked. halo 3 will have both and both will be done pristinely as far as i can tell.

i agree with you though that they are extremely harsh on games nowadays and bioshock deserved a 9.5 for sure. with that said, with the amount of solid content halo 3 will have, it should score 9.0 as well.

True true the biggest problem I see with this game is that it doesnt make great strides in any category.

The graphics are improved over Halo 2 by not by much

Those who have played it say the gameplay hasn't changed much

There is a forge and video capture mode, but as TC said PC first person shooters have had thsoe features for ages now

Look forward to a 9.0-9.3 score

DarthaPerkinjan

LOL, Forge, that is funny. WHAT THE **** THOUGH? A map editor that DOESN'T LET YOU EDIT MAPS????? Timesplitters Future Perfect got it right with its map editor, and that was a long time before Halo 3.

[QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"]

True true the biggest problem I see with this game is that it doesnt make great strides in any category.

The graphics are improved over Halo 2 by not by much

Those who have played it say the gameplay hasn't changed much

There is a forge and video capture mode, but as TC said PC first person shooters have had thsoe features for ages now

Look forward to a 9.0-9.3 score

ShmenonPie

LOL, Forge, that is funny. WHAT THE **** THOUGH? A map editor that DOESN'T LET YOU EDIT MAPS????? Timesplitters Future Perfect got it right with its map editor, and that was a long time before Halo 3.

Forge is not a map editor....It allows players to edit things in the environment at real time while playing the game.