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#1 TheShadowLord07
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/310248/news/halo-4-going-back-to-what-made-halo-1-amazing/

Is Microsoft taking the Halo series back to its roots with Halo 4? It sure is if recent comments from Microsoft UK's Xbox entertainment director Stephen McGill are anything to go by.

"One of the key things with Halo 4 is going back to what made it amazing for people playing the first Halo," McGill told MCV recently, giving one of the few hints as to the nature of the new game since its E3 revelation.

Halo 4, along with the re-release of the first Halo game in the form of Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, will serve as a perfect introduction to the series for players who were too young to have experienced the impact of the original, said McGill.

"The people who are 18 years old now were only eight when Halo appeared. They probably didn't play it. That's the opportunity the Anniversary pack and then Halo 4 have," he said.

Earlier in the interview, McGill said, "The tenth anniversary is huge and is a product of great passion. It's important we celebrate this - the game itself was a huge milestone for us and kickstarted the platform in a lot of ways.

"But the platform has evolved dramatically in that time, so it's worth going back to show how it still stands up as a product made today."

Microsoft's release of Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary in November won't kick off a spate of HD remakes from the platform holder, it has said.

Still have any doubts?

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#2 millerlight89
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I really don't believe PR talk thrown at me, srry. I'll wait to judge myself.
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#3 walkingdream
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So more exploration is involved and the feeling of being alone is back? I wish they would tell us in what way it goes back to the original...

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#4 eboyishere
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still dont know how to take halo 4 yet..with 343 wanting to branch into different terrority im still a little weary
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#5 AAllxxjjnn
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They say this every ****ing time. Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach. C'mon.
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#6 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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More Library levels?
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#7 soulitane
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Bungie said the same thing about reach.....
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#8 Filthybastrd
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What made Halo 1 amazing was that it was a console shooter and not total ass.....

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#9 Allthishate
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More Library levels?siLVURcross

bring emm on !!!

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#10 NaveedLife
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They say this every ****ing time. Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach. C'mon. AAllxxjjnn

Apparently Halo 2 was the only oddball then :P.

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#11 walkingdream
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Bungie said the same thing about reach.....soulitane
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA
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I think they should make a Halo where Master Chief and Marcus Fenix team up to battle the locovenent. And at the end it turns out it's all just a novel writtin by Alan Wake. Sorry, those are the only Xbox exclusive Protagonists I can think of.

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#13 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Bungie said the same thing about reach.....walkingdream
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

That's not saying much, it had health and a shield other than that it feels quite different to 1.
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I think they should make a Halo where Master Chief and Marcus Fenix team up to battle the locovenent. And at the end it turns out it's all just a novel writtin by Alan Wake. Sorry, those are the only Xbox exclusive Protagonists I can think of.

WheresDaBeer

That's the Persona 5 plot right there!

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More Library levels?siLVURcross

Oh lord, please no..

The original Halo is actually my least favorite. I don't like wandering around and being by myself, and not knowing where the hell I'm going. I don't like it completely linear either, but I thought a large portion of CE was boring.

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Clunky controls and no online multiplayer that allows kids to scream at me? :D

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]More Library levels?UCF_Knight

Oh lord, please no..

The original Halo is actually my least favorite. I don't like wandering around and being by myself, and not knowing where the hell I'm going. I don't like it completely linear either, but I thought a large portion of CE was boring.

Yea, the library level sucked.
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#18 AdrianWerner
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Hopefully they won't be bringing back the horrible level design from Halo 1.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Bungie said the same thing about reach.....walkingdream
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

the hell it was..
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Bungie said the same thing about reach.....walkingdream
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

Yep, my favourite since CE and it ditches dual wielding. Good old golden tripod system making a return.
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All spin, until they can publicly identify what made Halo 2 and 3 not amazing.

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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="soulitane"]Bungie said the same thing about reach.....soulitane
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

That's not saying much, it had health and a shield other than that it feels quite different to 1.

true but i believe bungie said it would be CE like than 2,3 not be completely like it. Plus the pistol is quite good...
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="soulitane"]Bungie said the same thing about reach.....campzor
and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

the hell it was..

It was much more like CE than Halo 2,3. Bungie never said it would be the same, but you can certainly see what they were talking about. No duel welding, Pistol, Health Returns, Fall Damage is back, Vehicle Health, Elites as enemies ect...

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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] and it was more like Halo:CE then say Halo 3.... Besides AA

the hell it was..

It was much more like CE than Halo 2,3. Bungie never said it would be the same, but you can certainly see what they were talking about. No duel welding, Pistol, Health Returns, Fall Damage is back, Vehicle Health ect...

Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.
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#25 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="campzor"] the hell it was..

It was much more like CE than Halo 2,3. Bungie never said it would be the same, but you can certainly see what they were talking about. No duel welding, Pistol, Health Returns, Fall Damage is back, Vehicle Health ect...

Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.

Pistol was much closer to Halo:CE than Halo 2,3. It was actually useful with zoom and powerful headshots. Didn't you use it at all? Vehicle health as in the covenant. And i suppose if you wish you could make the vehicles indestructible through custom games. How anybody could try and argue that Reach isn't more like CE than Halo 2,3 is beyond me. It's certainly doesn't feel the same as CE. But you can understand where bungie was coming from when they said it was more like the first game.
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] It was much more like CE than Halo 2,3. Bungie never said it would be the same, but you can certainly see what they were talking about. No duel welding, Pistol, Health Returns, Fall Damage is back, Vehicle Health ect...

Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.

Pistol was much closer to Halo:CE than Halo 2,3. It was actually useful with zoom and powerful headshots. Didn't you use it at all? Vehicle health as in the covenant. And i suppose if you wish you could make the vehicles indestructible through custom games. How anybody could try and argue that Reach isn't more like CE than Halo 2,3 is beyond me. It's certainly doesn't feel the same as CE. But you can understand where bungie was coming from when they said it was more like the first game.

Yes I used it but there are much more useful weapons especially if you have a DMR. I never said it wasn't more like it than the other games, I just don't think it's anything like 1 apart from a few things. What I meant by my comment is they say that but it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be much like it.
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#27 morapuler
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But.. but... halo was never amazing.. oh snap!

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Best FPS on consoles by far.

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#29 tomarlyn
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All spin, until they can publicly identify what made Halo 2 and 3 not amazing.

Cherokee_Jack

I read an article a while ago where the dev's said Halo 2 wasn't as good as it should have been because a lot was cut out. Halo 3 was supposed to be the last couple levels of Halo 2.

However they've now got this extremely high tech lab that monitors and evaluates gamers enjoyment/thinking processes in early builds. They even use the lab to see what makes games from the competition tick. I wish they'd test me when it comes to Halo multiplayer though :x

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.

Pistol was much closer to Halo:CE than Halo 2,3. It was actually useful with zoom and powerful headshots. Didn't you use it at all? Vehicle health as in the covenant. And i suppose if you wish you could make the vehicles indestructible through custom games. How anybody could try and argue that Reach isn't more like CE than Halo 2,3 is beyond me. It's certainly doesn't feel the same as CE. But you can understand where bungie was coming from when they said it was more like the first game.

Yes I used it but there are much more useful weapons especially if you have a DMR. I never said it wasn't more like it than the other games, I just don't think it's anything like 1 apart from a few things. What I meant by my comment is they say that but it doesn't necessarily mean that it will be much like it.

Fair enough :)
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#31 campzor
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] It was much more like CE than Halo 2,3. Bungie never said it would be the same, but you can certainly see what they were talking about. No duel welding, Pistol, Health Returns, Fall Damage is back, Vehicle Health ect...walkingdream
Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.

Pistol was much closer to Halo:CE than Halo 2,3. It was actually useful with zoom and powerful headshots. Didn't you use it at all? Vehicle health as in the covenant. And i suppose if you wish you could make the vehicles indestructible through custom games. How anybody could try and argue that Reach isn't more like CE than Halo 2,3 is beyond me. It's certainly doesn't feel the same as CE. But you can understand where bungie was coming from when they said it was more like the first game.

well ye thats what i was getting at, in both campaign and multiplayer (sure maybe a lil with mp but not as close as halo 3)

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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="soulitane"] Pistol still didn't really feel much like halo 1. What's with vehicle health? All the human ones in 1 had unlimited health.campzor

Pistol was much closer to Halo:CE than Halo 2,3. It was actually useful with zoom and powerful headshots. Didn't you use it at all? Vehicle health as in the covenant. And i suppose if you wish you could make the vehicles indestructible through custom games. How anybody could try and argue that Reach isn't more like CE than Halo 2,3 is beyond me. It's certainly doesn't feel the same as CE. But you can understand where bungie was coming from when they said it was more like the first game.

well ye thats what i was getting at, in both campaign and multiplayer (sure maybe a lil with mp but not as close as halo 3)

What? Reach is much closer than Halo 3 is to CE. Sorry but if i still cant get through to you then nothing will.
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#33 PAL360
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Good to see that at least they will try! It wont be easy.

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#34 Snugenz
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Clunky controls and no online multiplayer that allows kids to scream at me? :D

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Say what you want about Halo, but one thing it never had was "clunky controls".

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I played the first Halo again recently, and while I really like Halo, that game hasn't held up very well. Too much back tracking and bland environments. Sure, it rocked everyone's socks when it came out, but saying that it's better than Reach and Halo 3 is taking it a bit too far. But that's just my opinion. I know the Halo fanboys are going to rip me a new one for posting this :P
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"Halo 4 'going back to what made Halo 1 amazing"

Swag and paying celebrities to promote the game? :P

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"Halo 4 'going back to what made Halo 1 amazing"

Swag and paying celebrities to promote the game? :P

lucky_star

Don't all big budget games do that now? :P

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But what about Reach, Bungie's final, and they say, best Halo experience?

It will be a game that goes back to the original Halo, Halo: Combat Evolved for inspiration, Jarrard said.

"We have been going back to Halo: CE as our primary example and are trying to recapture some of that magic," he said. "Reach is supposed to go in that direction and not to redefine what Halo Is supposed to be.Bungie on Reach

http://kotaku.com/5474603/bungie-explains-if-halo-reach-is-more-of-an-odst-or-a-halo-3-game

"I have been playing through Campaign mode purely for kicks. Exploring, in fact," he says. "There's lots of the feel of the originalHalo, where you'll find yourself in a huge (dangerous) and intrinsically fascinating environment and just want to go tool around and check things out."Bungie on Halo 3

http://www.1up.com/news/halo-3-feels-halo-1

Lol, every time.

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#39 -Snooze-
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So is Halo to return back to its 10 year old roots? No thanks, played that when it was good. I have no intention of doing it again.

Halo needs to evolve, not stagnate.

I actually prefer those rumour (Now proven fake) which said they'd bring in branching story paths, on the fly weapon upgrade, and implement the suit powers ala Crysis 1.

The suit powers similar to how Crysis handled them would have been excellent, and made a lot of sense in the Halo universe. It would have also added in whole new ways to play if it was coupled with Halo:ce's exploration.

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#40 Harisemo
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I r disappoint, Halo CE sucked.

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#41 catfishmoon23
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When I think of Halo 1 and amazing, I think of this :P.

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#42 Snugenz
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When I think of Halo 1 and amazing, I think of this :P.

catfishmoon23

The demo was also amazing when you think of it, a whole level of the game to do in as you like. Think i got it with OXM iirc.

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#43 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

When I think of Halo 1 and amazing, I think of this :P.

Snugenz

The demo was also amazing when you think of it, a whole level of the game to do in as you like. Think i got it with OXM iirc.

I never played the demo (just played and finished CE for the first time back in June of last year and it was great). I'm a big fan of Sgt. Johnson though and really liked Contact Harvest. He's just an awesome guy :D.

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#44 walkingdream
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I r disappoint, Halo CE sucked.

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lol wut
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#45 vashkey
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Thats pretty vague.

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#46 TheEpicGoat
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I just want the 1 - 50 ranking system

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#47 Heil68
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Let us not forget, shoe horned bs Kinect support, for that feeling that *you* are MC himself, only available on xbox 360. I'm not expecting much from this game...at all.
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#48 SecretPolice
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And the way you do that is to do something Halo CE did that no other Halo has done....

You make Halo 4 the launch title for the new MS console sporting visuals and game-play that make all other games at the time :cry: when compared to it. :P

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#49 vashkey
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And the way you do that is to do something Halo CE did that no other Halo has done....

You make Halo 4 the launch title for the new MS console sporting visuals and game-play that make all other games at the time :cry: when compared to it. :P

SecretPolice

I dunno... I'd say MGS2 looked better than Halo.

Personally the thing that the original Halo had that the rest were lacking for me was mystery. An entirely new set of enemies, weapons and vehicles would be nice too.

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Didn't they say that with Reach?