Halo 4 vs Black Ops 2 (which is better)

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]360 has had a pretty good year. Halo 4, forza horizon, fez, trials evo, mark of the ninja, minecraft, witcher 2, and a few other games.

mems_1224

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]360 has had a pretty good year. Halo 4, forza horizon, fez, trials evo, mark of the ninja, minecraft, witcher 2, and a few other games.

Mozelleple112

This. Gotta love when cows make false claims about other consoles when their own has a pathetic year.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Terrible PC ports, more Halo and Forza.. /facepalm. I hardly consider lems getting the games I played last year but with one quarter the graphical fidelity "lems having a good year". Like I said, this year has been terrible for everyone, and if we're including ports, then PC got Dark Souls = a 9.5 game....Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]360 has had a pretty good year. Halo 4, forza horizon, fez, trials evo, mark of the ninja, minecraft, witcher 2, and a few other games.

Mozelleple112

This. Gotta love when cows make false claims about other consoles when their own has a pathetic year.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Its too bad the far off good sounds are gone. Seemed they went back to just turning down the volume...wolverine4262

[QUOTE="Quaker-w00ts"]

[QUOTE="dzaric"]

Like what?

Plagueless

Sprint being its own mapping. Sprint in Reach was well mapped it was an armor ability, it gave you a strategic choice. Should I grab jet pack or sprint? now you can have both.

DMR = 3 headshot kill vs BR= 4, 3 round bursts headshot kill.

Resupply and extra grenade damage.

Boltshot

Que the blah blah your bad at the game and its easy to combat these problems blah blah:P

or que the, "please talk to me like I have not played the game"

thats not possible, I've been watching previous games for the pass 15 mins and I hear 3 DMR shots and then I'm dead.

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]360 has had a pretty good year. Halo 4, forza horizon, fez, trials evo, mark of the ninja, minecraft, witcher 2, and a few other games.

Mozelleple112

This. Gotta love when cows make false claims about other consoles when their own has a pathetic year.

lol PS2 games, Starflop, Wii games, some game I've never heard of, car combat game with broken online, and some art game where you can't die or lose. Thanks for reminding me how bad 360 owned PS3 this year :lol:

Halo 4. BLOPS 2 is trailer trash

As much as I want to say Halo 4 for its non-yearly release cycle, I'm gonna go with BO2. Party games is just too much fun.LustForSoul

sticks and stones for XP is the greatest idea ever.

Could. Play. For. Hours.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Halo 4 has more variety and the game isn't fundamentally broken like CoD is. I dont know how a game can get away with a broken spawn system in 2012mems_1224

No way. Halo 4 doesn't even match Halo 3 and Reach in content and variety. Black Ops 2 wins this by a landslide.

You got the campaign with a story that branches off into a surprising number of different paths, zombies mode with an open world map and 3 different modes, multiplayer with 14 different maps (Halo 4 only has like what, 8?), a plethora of different matchtypes, and a new loadout system that offers near infinite possibilites.

A 5 hour long static campaign that doesn't change what so ever on replays (minus a very small change in the legendary ending).

Spartan Ops is a lame replacement for firefight, and it's not nearly as well defined.

And the game is missing a surprising amount of playlists that have been in Halo since nearly forever ago.

Only available on two maps.

Black Ops 2 has this.

Nothing compared to Black Ops 2's.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

No way. Halo 4 doesn't even match Halo 3 and Reach in content and variety. Black Ops 2 wins this by a landslide.

You got the campaign with a story that branches off into a surprising number of different paths, zombies mode with an open world map and 3 different modes, multiplayer with 14 different maps (Halo 4 only has like what, 8?), a plethora of different matchtypes, and a new loadout system that offers near infinite possibilites.

Master_ShakeXXX

A 5 hour long static campaign that doesn't change what so ever (minus a very small change in the legendary ending).

Spartan Ops is a lame replacement for firefight, and it's not nearly as well defined.

And the game is missing a surpriising amount of playlists that has been in Halo since nearly forever ago.

Only available on two maps.

Black Ops 2 has this.

Nothing compared to Black Ops 2's.

A 5 hour long static campaign that doesn't change what so ever on replays (minus a very small change in the legendary ending).

Spartan Ops is a lame replacement for firefight, and it's not nearly as well defined.

And the game is missing a surprising amount of playlists that have been in Halo since nearly forever ago.

Only available on two maps.

Black Ops 2 has this.

Nothing compared to Black Ops 2's.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]As much as I want to say Halo 4 for its non-yearly release cycle, I'm gonna go with BO2. Party games is just too much fun.Quaker-w00ts

sticks and stones for XP is the greatest idea ever.

Could. Play. For. Hours.

I could too, if the lag comp wasn't so ridiculous. This time around your performance depends entirely upon your connection speed in comparison to the host's. In it's current state the multiplayer is pretty broken.

Planetside 2:P

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Halo has a Campaign, Spartan Ops, Multiplayer with more Playlists and 343 is adding more every week, Forge, Custom games, bigger maps with vehicles, smaller maps for fast paced slayer, different load outs as well as being able to customize your spartan to your liking. The gameplay alone has more variety than Blops2, you cant have big maps with vehicles in a CoD game. I think there are 13 maps and im confident 343 will add free forge maps later on like bungie did with reach as well as the map packs.mems_1224

A 5 hour long static campaign that doesn't change what so ever (minus a very small change in the legendary ending).

Spartan Ops is a lame replacement for firefight, and it's not nearly as well defined.

And the game is missing a surpriising amount of playlists that has been in Halo since nearly forever ago.

Only available on two maps.

Black Ops 2 has this.

Nothing compared to Black Ops 2's.

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]As much as I want to say Halo 4 for its non-yearly release cycle, I'm gonna go with BO2. Party games is just too much fun.Quaker-w00ts

sticks and stones for XP is the greatest idea ever.

Could. Play. For. Hours.

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

wolverine4262

I was speaking in terms of how the story plays out. When you replay Halo 4, you're going to essentially have the same experience as you did before. You can change your playstyle up, but you can do that in Black Ops 2 as well. Even more so since now you can edit loadouts before each mission.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

You could replace Black Ops 2 with anything and the answer is still Halo 4.

JohnnyCageMK

You mean the same awards that nominated 50 Cent bulletproof for GOTY? :lol:

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

A 5 hour long static campaign that doesn't change what so ever (minus a very small change in the legendary ending).

Spartan Ops is a lame replacement for firefight, and it's not nearly as well defined.

And the game is missing a surpriising amount of playlists that has been in Halo since nearly forever ago.

Only available on two maps.

Black Ops 2 has this.

Nothing compared to Black Ops 2's.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

That has nothing to do with what I said.

Just because they have the same textures doesn't mean they aren't new maps

oh great, more horses with giant dicks f***ing each other like the last BLOPS game, sounds great :roll:

No, the loadouts are broken, just like the spawn system is still broken.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

Master_ShakeXXX

I was speaking in terms of how the story plays out. When you replay Halo 4, you're going to essentially have the same experience as you did before. You can change your playstyle up, but you can do that in Black Ops 2 as well. Even more so since now you can edit loadouts before each mission.

really? you can hop in and out of vehicles in big open areas in blops? thats news to memems_1224

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] If you want a longer Campaign then turn up the difficulty. Anyone who's played Halo should play on Heroic, campaign could easily take 7-10 hours. how long is the blops 2 campaign? Spartan Ops is still free weekly content with a story and each chapter last about an hour Like I said, they're adding playlists every week. I dont see the problem, Halo still has more variety in the playlists Forge is still forge and you can still create maps. You cant do that in CoD at all. Not to mention being able to create your own games and playlists. Can you customize your soldier?Either way, from what I've seen the loadouts are more broken than ever. You can enter a match with 6 perks and a knife if you want. Plus quick draw being a weapon attachment instead of a perk is dumb.mems_1224

That's the case with any game. Still doesn't change the fact that the campaign is entirely static. The events in Black Ops 2's campaign can be altered in a large number of cool ways.

I haven't seen a single person yet say that they prefer Spartan Ops over Firefight. The whole thing just looks incredibly Half assed and thrown together at the last second.

They're still the same maps, aesthetically speaking.

No but you can create entirely original emblems.

That's not broken. It offers more creativity and options than ever before. The new pick 10 system is surprisingly balanced, and quick draw isn't a very big game changer. In terms of balance CoD has never been this well done. It's the current network problems that f*ck everything up.

That has nothing to do with what I said.

Just because they have the same textures doesn't mean they aren't new maps

oh great, more horses with giant dicks f***ing each other like the last BLOPS game, sounds great :roll:

No, the loadouts are broken, just like the spawn system is still broken.

Roughly 7-8 hours, on normal.

Yes it does.

They're hardly "new" maps. Compare Forge to a standard map editor on PC games. It's not nearly as flexible.

Um, what?

Spawn system is broken, the loadouts are not.

You could replace Black Ops 2 with anything and the answer is still Halo 4.

JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

You mean the same awards that nominated 50 Cent Bulletproof for GOTY? :lol:

Thefatness16

Wat

Seriously?

50 cent bulletproof was a sweet as game

They're hardly "new" maps. Compare Forge to a standard map editor on PC games. It's not nearly as flexible.Master_ShakeXXX

Both are very good. I enjoyed BO2's campaign more. I can't decide which is better on the multiplayer side yet. Still need to put more time into both games before coming to a conclusion.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]They're hardly "new" maps. Compare Forge to a standard map editor on PC games. It's not nearly as flexible.soulitane

The original argument was that Halo 4 has more content and variety, which isn't true.

Map alterations =/= new maps.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]They're hardly "new" maps. Compare Forge to a standard map editor on PC games. It's not nearly as flexible.Master_ShakeXXX

The original argument was that Halo 4 has more content and variety, which isn't true.

Map alterations =/= new maps.

Ontopic: Multiplayer is definitely better, that was expected seeing as every cods mp(except #3) dating back to the first on pc has been better than every halo'scampzor

[QUOTE="campzor"] Ontopic: Multiplayer is definitely better, that was expected seeing as every cods mp(except #3) dating back to the first on pc has been better than every halo'sDarkLink77

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] They're new maps, do they play completely differently? Check. Do they have completely different layouts? Check, they're different maps no matter how you spin it, even if a lot of the maps do suck. What does PC games have to do with this? Unless of course BO2 on PC has a map editor, otherwise that is irrelevant.soulitane

The original argument was that Halo 4 has more content and variety, which isn't true.

Map alterations =/= new maps.

Because all it essentially is is map alterations. Adding a box here, a catwalk there, etc. You're welcome to post videos of forge maps that look and play completely differently from the standard unforged maps. I haven't seen anything drastically different.

[QUOTE="campzor"] Ontopic: Multiplayer is definitely better, that was expected seeing as every cods mp(except #3) dating back to the first on pc has been better than every halo'sDarkLink77

He must not have played Halo 2 aka the best mp of all time.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

The original argument was that Halo 4 has more content and variety, which isn't true.

Map alterations =/= new maps.

Master_ShakeXXX

Because all it essentially is is map alterations. Adding a box here, a catwalk there, etc. You're welcome to post videos of forge maps that look and play completely differently from the standard unforged maps. I haven't seen anything drastically different.

Sorry to break it to you, Shake, but you're completely and totally wrong on this one.

There are drastically different maps you can make it Forge.

[QUOTE="campzor"] Ontopic: Multiplayer is definitely better, that was expected seeing as every cods mp(except #3) dating back to the first on pc has been better than every halo'sDarkLink77

Campzor is one silly goose. I can admit that Halo 4's multiplayer is better, simply because the network actually works like it should, and people actually die when you shoot them.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] I'm addressing a particular part of ignorance in your post, nothing more. Yes, forge can be used for map alterations, so not everything made with it is in fact a new map, but it can also be used to make entirely different maps. Something tells me you haven't spent that much time with Halo if you're trying to say forge is just map alterations. Heck for Halo Reach they practically relied on that fact to pad out the multiplayer maps. They have the same aesthetic but play entirely differently and have different layouts of every object, including geometry (well objects place to mimic geometry). You haven't given a very compelling argument as to why they're not different maps, care to at least give a valid reason as to how they can't be viewed as a new map? DarkLink77

Because all it essentially is is map alterations. Adding a box here, a catwalk there, etc. You're welcome to post videos of forge maps that look and play completely differently from the standard unforged maps. I haven't seen anything drastically different.

Sorry to break it to you, Shake, but you're completely and totally wrong on this one.

There are drastically different maps you can make it Forge.

I know, but my argument about Black Ops 2 having vastly more content and variety still stands.