Halo 5, FM5 coming to Steam

I mean with all the complaints about the windows store this may not be a bad thing. Also for anyone who believe this make the one irrelevant nope it does not. At that point can you just say that you had no interest in buying one.

@Kjranu:

I doubt they'd do that.

Didn't Phil say once they weren't bringing halo 5 to PC?

I heard from a friend of a friend's second cousin's stepbrother's sister-in-law that it's not true and this is nothing but a Steaming pile of cow manure. lol

My source >>>> Yours. :P

NO i am laughing because you want to piggy back ride the PS4 with the nogamebox one.

No they ran out from all your crying..hahahahaha

MS is not even trying with XBox anymore, they gave up long time ago for the almighty Godstation. ..other hand it was not competition that killed Xbox it was MS themselves.

Agreed. MS actually made an effort to make games for the OG Xbox and the pre-Kinect days of 360. Since then they don't even know what they want the brand to be anymore and their first party is down to 4 studios.

I want to piggy back ride? What does that even mean?

I don't even think $ony is trying anymore. It's like they gave up. I mean, they can't even get their own newly published title to be AT LEAST 1080p and 60fps on THEIR "4K" platform. I mean, that is just downright pathetic.

As they close up all their studios, and can't even put out quality titles anymore, have no games, it is no wonder they are called the ClosedStation 4 and 720pStation Pro. Might be time to put a fork in it.

They're really in a sad state now. I'm 90% sure M$ is getting rid of the xbox consoles and making xbox a service. Scorpio is just a quick milking cash grab for the few people still supporting the brand but it will basically be an useless console for the time it releases. The problem is that if they switch to a service then they have to compete with the likes of Steam and GOG which are already consolidated and M$ didn't even invested in a good first party lineup to justify the switch because in ease of use they suck too since the Windows Store is a virus more than a store.

They're really in a sad state now. I'm 90% sure Phony is getting rid of the PS consoles and making PS a service. Poo is just a half assed quick milking cash grab for the few people still supporting the brand but it will basically been a useless console from the word go. The problem is that if they switch to a service then they have to compete with the likes of Steam and GOG and the pinnacle of online gaming, XBLG which are already consolidated and Phony didn't even invested in a good first party lineup to justify the switch because in ease of use they suck too since the Phony Store is a virus more than a store. :P

Indeed. He said that it's highly unlikely. Not that it really matters since gamers have already shown that they don't buy consoles for exclusives so why not release it on Xbox, and PC...

Yeah, I don't know. I think that Sony does sense that "services" are a future with their investment in PS Now, but I don't think they are aggressive enough. But with Sony bleeding in every department outside of gaming, I don't think they can afford to take any chances right now. Once gaming starts to lose money, Sony is closing up shop.

@kvally:

Either you're being sly or you really didn't see what I did there? lol :P

Oh I see what you did there :) 13 points for you :)

lol

You know I love those Baker's Dozen. lol :P

What a misleading title

I'm wondering if Microsoft is working on a partnership with Steam. Would love if the Scorpio was a console that keeps your Xbox Profile & Digital Purchases plus you'd now get the Steam library.

Microsoft thinks they can do such sort of things on their own, and Valve doesn't need it so that would be unlikely

@FastRobby: Unlikely, I agree. I'm just spit ballin' here with my thoughts on it. If Steam is looking to get into the home console market legitimately, something they tried with the Steam Machine but didn't necessarily get the sales, teaming with one of the big console gaming machines to get their product across may be a decent move on their part. They'd own the PC gaming market place & be extremely competitive on the home console front as well.

Well Microsoft already integrated the Steam friends lists with Xbox. I don't know if they needed Valve's permission to do that.

Indeed, which Microsoft definitely doesn't want :D

Sony and Steam already collaborated last gen on a crossplay version of Portal 2 which worked great. I think they might be considering partnering up in the future and that would be the best for the industry. Sony has several advantages for Steam including the fact that they are the biggest presence in the console market and that they are not tied to directx that works only on Windows. That would allow to keep Steam's efforts on Linux while making competition to directx which Valve definitely doesn't like since it closes the market to Microsoft platforms only.

How did that end up great? Besides testing out Portal 2 with cross buy on Steam with the PS3, can you give us a list of all the titles that followed using that great scenario where you would buy a PS3 game, get the Steam version free and have cross platform play?

Pretty sure that MS is already working with Steam, especially now that they integrated the Steam friends list with Xbox Live, and of course the biggest gaming platform in the world being Microsoft Windows, pretty sure we will see more and more partnership features coming.

LOL delusional weeaboo.

I feel like Valve is trolling gullible PC gamers. If you look really closely, you can also see what looks like and H, an L, and a 3....

Hmm, this is interesting! On one hand, sacrificing the exclusivity of the Xbox library will be detrimental to the future of the Xbox brand. On the other hand, Microsoft would make a fair deal of money by porting their licenses to other platforms!

Well that's 100% more cross platform games Steam has with Sony than with M$. And like I said, Valve champions Linux, supporting the UWP goes against making Linux a gaming platform which is what Valve aims at. With Sony they have more possibilities since Sony also experimented with Linux on the PS3 and they had graphic libraries based on opengl which is compatible across all platforms. Sony is much more open and Valve likes that, M$ is much more closed.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/06/its-time-to-declare-valves-steam-machines-doa/

You didn't answer my question though. Outside of Portal 2, if it was so great, what were the ones that followed?

Didn't Sony drop Linux support though? Wouldn't the Linux argument be invalid at this point about Sony being more open?

Steam Machines failed but Steam's support for Linux hasn't. There are more games coming to Linux on Steam nowadays that at any other point and even many AAA class games have Linux versions something unheard of in the past.

Portal 2 was a test and it worked fine. Now that PC and consoles are merging it makes sense to put that test into practice. I can see only benefits for Sony and Valve while M$ would have to be left whining cause devs are not using directx. Maybe M$ should have gotten a testing benchmark at some point like Sony already did.

They dropped Linux installation for security reasons yes but that doesn't mean that they're not interested. If Sony didn't care about openness then they wouldn't even have tested it.

Its cute how some people cant see the forest for the trees.

https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/473tap/xboxsteampoweredcom_is_continually_being_updated/

Theres either going to be a Steam App on Scorpio, hopefully with some sort of win32 to UWP conversion, or MS has talked their way into a deal with Valve and is going to get them to start using UWP as an option.

This is why I think MS isnt sweating cancelling games. Because they know they are about to get a big bump in PC titles on Scorpio.

Theres ways to run a storefront that could still be profitable to both.

Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. Specifically for desktop, I prefer Ubuntu. That said, consumers are not buying linux machines for gaming. And consumers are not buying linux machines in big numbers compared to Windows.

Don't expect big support for linux games because the number of machines out there are trivial. Just look at the support for Mac, which pales in comparison to Windows and is still far beyond Linux for household computer saturation.

Microsoft has not only opened up their UWP, but they integrated with Steam for friends list and to show what friends are playing on steam, but they are now allowing for cross platform play and chat with steam games. And with Microsoft having Steam's bread and butter, Windows, I am pretty sure the relation will only continue to grow.

I could be wrong but I expect to hear more about Steam from MS this year. More cross platform talk, more integration, possibly releasing first party titles on Steam. I don't know if they will ever do cross buy with steam though.

I don't really care whether or not Halo 5 becomes available on Steam, I just want them to make it an Xbox Play Anywhere title so I can continue my progress from my laptop..

I'm really hoping for an announcement that they are updating Halo 5: Guardians to a 4K/60fps UWP title for Project Scorpio and also bringing it to the Windows Store on PC with XPA.. That would be great news

MS opened up for devs to make crossplatform games with Steam and even Playstation since 2014 I think but how many games have really done that? Rocket League I think and which else? It doesn't seem to be very popular. And there's no mention of a steam app anywhere.

Yes Linux is not so popular for gaming right now but it has been increasing and Valve will definitely not shut down all Linux support to cater to M$ ambitions of closing PC to their UWP. No systems or platform becomes popular from ine day to the other, It takes time and Linux has been taking its time but improving thanks to the support of companies like Valve.

If Linux ever becomes a gaming platform (before the next 50 years), I will be 100% gaming on Linux. Open source is the way to go.

As for numbers of games that went cross platform between steam and xbox? I don't know. That is up to the developers to do that, not Microsoft. They opened up their Xbox Live to them and already put the tools in place.

BTW, with so many distros of Linux, I have to wonder if that is a stumbling block to also release games on them. Sure, there isn't a big enough population out there to put games on Linux, but what if Valve came out with an exclusive like Halo or Uncharted that would only work on Linux. I mean a HUGE game.

You can start right now. Like half my Steam library can be played on Linux already.

Yes but my experience is that it's not so problematic in the end. All Steam games recommend to use Ubuntu but I use Arch Linux which is fairly different and obscure distro in comparison to Ubuntu and everything works fine. I have also tried in Debian.

So titles like Ghost Recons, Call of Duty's, Battlefields, Mass Effects, Witchers? I know it has a few blockbusters like Deus Ex, Xcom2, Shadow of Mordor, Ark and Batman. But the support is still pretty dismal IMO. No way could one put all their faith into gaming on a Linux machine anytime soon.

This is just a rumor.

Halo 5 might be the best Halo game in the series from what I've read and seen, so that would be very welcome for me if I could get it.

Fyi: I haven't played Halo 5, so I could be forming a wrong opinion. I played Halo 4 a lot at a friends, and I basically called it "Halo of Duty 4"

@X_CAPCOM_X: H5's definitely awesome from a MP perspective, but the campaign (which is what I care about) is the weakest in the series sadly...

don't care for campaign in halo after 2. MP is where the money's at in those games. It craps on other shooters in that respect.

@X_CAPCOM_X: I'm the opposite, couldn't care less about MP... to me, Halo was built from its campaigns and the lore.

But each to their own :)

What is FM5 ?

I'm pretty sure other games have shown up in various parts of the steam application, but have never come out.

I'll wait till I see the games on the Store to believe.

If they add KB/M support and Steam support to the Scorpio, they just might have a fairly decent gaming HTPC on their hands. It would definitely blur the lines between console and living room PC.

At that point microsoft would have to take even MORE profit cuts due to the fact that steam would have to get a portion of every game sale and if microsoft is going to try to get the developers or steam to take that cut, it's either going to fail horribly since no developer will want to jump in and lose more money than they should or steam won't even bother.

It'd be a unique move but it'd be fucking stupid. They certainly couldn't jump prices up.

That's the kind of move one can pull off MAYBE if they have the market share, sony has that though.

The point is, that shit is likely not happening and if it is, it'd be pretty damn stupid. At that point, people will just buy pc.

If you ran a business what would you rather have, 0% of nothing or 50% of millions?

You sell exclusives and have incentives to draw people to your specific store page (in the way of steam, origin, etc etc) so that people have it on their pc.

To contrast this, you sell exclusives to bring in people to buying your console.

When that step is ultimately done, you have people on your platform who will more than likely buy other games like 3rd party.

This is the reason why old consoles were able to be sold on a loss, because of these sales. Each time a gta5 or something gets sold on the xbox one, microsoft get a portion of the money from each and every sale on their platform, same for all 3rd party. That is where profit is made.

Exclusives aren't made to make profit, exclusives are made to incentivize people to joining your product that you they get a cut each time you buy a game.

Steam get the same deal, the developers actually lose money when a game is sold back since steam get to keep their cut no matter what so the developer has to pay some money back to steam each time a game is returned.

That WAS good, because what I said is the objective market fact about the profits of consoles and pc store pages. It's good because you're a fanboy and now you know why this sucks for your product's bottom line.

Let the xbone die already