Halo developer criticizes female character design in MGSV

[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]^^ Further point proven. WHy the hell developers make Half nake girls?? mature ppls like me like serious and mature games.SNIPER4321

And why do developers make games with such gratuitous violence that glorify war for the sake of looking cool? Thats not exactly "mature" either. In fact bringing the "maturity" argument in videogames is dumb since nearly every single game out there is juvenile as fvck And thats ok, I dont play games to be mature, I play games to have fun.

gratuitous violence is always inmature.

voilence is acceptable and cool on other hand sex scenes and half nake girls in gaming is immatureSNIPER4321

Explain, please...

Hey.

Developers?

You have something negative to say about someone else's work?

Thanks.

MGS1-4 > Halo 2-4

drekula2

halo1=msg1&3>halo 2-reach>msg2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>halo4&msg4

thats segment would be correct

Kojima said there are important reasons as to why she's dressed like that. Perhaps she has to take off a piece of clothing when she misses a target.freedomfreak

Not against that idea.

Metal Gear Solid has always catered to lowest common denominator. It's a game designed for young adult males with young adult minds.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]voilence is acceptable and cool on other hand sex scenes and half nake girls in gaming is immatureSNIPER4321

Explain, please...

What needs explanation is why would explicit violence be consider "mature", while sex and nudity is "immature".

Source: GS

Two things:

1. Did he even play any Metal Gear Solid game at all? 

2. A Halo dev criticizing female design in another game? *looks at Cortana* Yeah...

Thoughts?

nintendoboy16

What kind of voilence? if u mean GTA/saints row type than ofcourse its immature. SNIPER4321

I had Gears of war in mind but I guess GTA fits too.

  but voilence is acceptable and cool on other hand sex scenes and half nake girls in gaming is immatureSNIPER4321

Did you realize that you just proved my point?

I love how clueless the people posting in defense of David in this thread are, enough to actually say The character design is "Perverted."  I'd love to see famous artists ciriticized in this day and age, anything can be interpreted as suggestive.

Yes, lets forget the fact that women can be ten times more sexually charged than men, but this is obviously only A male dominated industry so they find absolutely no appeal, it's done only to attract teenage boys surely.

I guess we can go after Capcom and Cammy fans as well, let's ask her how she feels about her ass hanging out like that. Someone must have put her up to it obviously.

If we let this notion of PC "safe." art continue to flood into the industry we are going to have even more bald space marines than we had this gen, all for the sake of catering to Public opinion.

I swear some of you need to get a grasp on reality, been down in your basements for far too long.

[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

I had Gears of war in mind but I guess GTA fits too.

 

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]  but voilence is acceptable and cool on other hand sex scenes and half nake girls in gaming is immatureSNIPER4321

Did you realize that you just proved my point?

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Kojima said there are important reasons as to why she's dressed like that. Perhaps she has to take off a piece of clothing when she misses a target.Michael0134567

Not against that idea.

^^ Further point proven. WHy the hell developers make Half nake girls??

mature ppls like me like serious and mature games.SNIPER4321

Mature people don't lose their sh!t over the slightest display of eye candy or story context that entails sexuality. Genuine maturity (not merely the fictitious abstract you always demonstrate) stems from having experience with sexuality, from which comes an understanding that it's a normal and healthy part of the human condition.

There is nothing wrong with the character design in MGS and David needs to mind his own games (shut up).

I love how clueless the people posting in defense of David in this thread are, enough to actually say The character design is "Perverted."  I'd love to see famous artists ciriticized in this day and age, anything can be interpreted as suggestive.

ReadingRainbow4

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I love how clueless the people posting in defense of David in this thread are, enough to actually say The character design is "Perverted."  I'd love to see famous artists ciriticized in this day and age, anything can be interpreted as suggestive.

uninspiredcup

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

Are you suggesting games don't contain art?

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I love how clueless the people posting in defense of David in this thread are, enough to actually say The character design is "Perverted."  I'd love to see famous artists ciriticized in this day and age, anything can be interpreted as suggestive.

ReadingRainbow4

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

Are you suggesting games don't contain art?

Im suggesting this isn't art, but some chick dressed like a hooker to boost sales.

If you want to call it "art" then we can call it "shit art aimed at saddos who watch anime".

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

uninspiredcup

Are you suggesting games don't contain art?

Im suggesting this isn't art, but some chick dressed like a hooker to boost sales.

If you want to call it "art" then we can call it "shit art aimed at saddos who watch anime".

Now you're saying anime doesn't contain artistic qualities?

:lol:

Now you're saying anime doesn't contain artistic qualities?

:lol:

ReadingRainbow4

Do a google image search for "anime" and post the first page. I bet I can predict what it is without doing it myself. Go on, do it. Show me this "art".

Guess what I think will show up?

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I love how clueless the people posting in defense of David in this thread are, enough to actually say The character design is "Perverted."  I'd love to see famous artists ciriticized in this day and age, anything can be interpreted as suggestive.

ReadingRainbow4

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

Are you suggesting games don't contain art?

Are you suggesting MGS does? In fact thats totally irrelevant.

Why is Naomi dressed like this?

No reason whatsoever. Its complete fan service.

And to the people still comparing Cortana to Quiet, its like comparing the violence in Lego undercover city to GTA.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Now you're saying anime doesn't contain artistic qualities?

:lol:

uninspiredcup

Do a google image search for "anime" and post the first page. I bet I can predict what it is without doing it myself. Go on, do it. Show me this "art".

Guess what I think will show up?

So a medium as a whole should be judged by one image?

You are so bright.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

But thats art. Woman in Metal Gear Solid (a product) are designed to look like upper class hookers to boost sales.

RR360DD

Are you suggesting games don't contain art?

Are you suggesting MGS does? In fact thats totally irrelevant.

Why is Naomi dressed like this?

No reason whatsoever. Its complete fan service.

And to the people still comparing Cortana to Quiet, its like comparing the violence in Lego undercover city to GTA.

Of course it's fan service, MGS4 was pretty much entirely fanservice, kevin even mentions this in his review that you lems just can't seem to get over.

I guess none of these designs can be considered artistic then.

I'd seriously love to see you guys move beyond highschool.  

And to the people still comparing Cortana to Quiet, its like comparing the violence in Lego undercover city to GTA.RR360DD

Cortana doesn't even have clothes on.

Yeah she's not a "real person" but neither of them are, they're polygonal models shaped like women.

Hideo Kojima is a pervert...as most Japanese developers are

R3FURBISHED

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] his point is MGS is for anime fans. MGS attempt very hard to be "badass" but fail so hard with horrible cheesy cutscenes, and etcSNIPER4321

None of you have any points at all to make.  Your collective mental capacity continues to ammount to that of a child flapping your arms around in the air whilst using your mouths mimicking the sounds of flatulence.

You wouldn't even recognize logic so what's the point?

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Now you're saying anime doesn't contain artistic qualities?

:lol:

ReadingRainbow4

Do a google image search for "anime" and post the first page. I bet I can predict what it is without doing it myself. Go on, do it. Show me this "art".

Guess what I think will show up?

So a medium as a whole should be judged by one image?

You are so bright.

Indeed. Anime is a huge medium. Saying all anime is otaku fap material is just as stupid as saying all modern videogames are shallow shooters.

I have to admit though, the character models in this game are extremely detailed. I mean, I could look at this all day.

There's actually alot of potential reason quiet could be dressed like that as well,  She's a sniper traveling light seems like a no brainer.

She could have had an airdrop and lost the rest of her supplies, or Wild animals could have attacked her that's why she has the ripped leggings.

Hell She could have been in a Fight (I mean this is a warzone), that might also explain some things.

Also it's f*cking hot in a desert, where that section of the game takes place.  She might just not care what she's wearing as long as it's not warm. 

There's actually alot of potential reason quiet could be dressed like that as well,  She's a sniper traveling light seems like a no brainer.

She could have had an airdrop and lost the rest of her supplies, or Wild animals could have attacked her that's why she has the ripped leggings.

Hell She could have been in a Fight (I mean this is a warzone), that might also explain some things.

ReadingRainbow4

Oh my god, this again?

A. He's right. That character design looks like shit. It's skanky as hell. As talented as Kojim's crew is they could do better.

B. He's not criticizing your mom, get over it.

C. Everytime something like this happens people go out of their way to prove every bad thing that people say about gamers. You aren't proving you're a man by saying you like boobs. Get over it.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Also it's f*cking hot in a desert, where that section of the game takes place SNIPER4321

She doesn't seem to be part of the normal soldier lineup, she probably get's special privlages like saying f*ck the dress code.

This is such a stupid argument in the first place. 

I can't wait for this game to come out and child soldiers are in it and *Gasp* you can kill them if you want!  The ammount of ass ravaging that will ripple through the industry will be glorious.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And to the people still comparing Cortana to Quiet, its like comparing the violence in Lego undercover city to GTA.Cherokee_Jack

Cortana doesn't even have clothes on.

Yeah she's not a "real person" but neither of them are, they're polygonal models shaped like women.

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]Also it's f*cking hot in a desert, where that section of the game takes place ReadingRainbow4

She doesn't seem to be part of the normal soldier lineup, she probably get's special privlages like saying f*ck the dress code.

This is such a stupid argument in the first place. 

Grats. You are making sniper sound logical and grounded in comparison.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]And to the people still comparing Cortana to Quiet, its like comparing the violence in Lego undercover city to GTA.RR360DD

Cortana doesn't even have clothes on.

Yeah she's not a "real person" but neither of them are, they're polygonal models shaped like women.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] Its hot in Summer where man wear full desrt camo jacket yet woman only wear bra and being half nake. Make Sense. LOL!!uninspiredcup

She doesn't seem to be part of the normal soldier lineup, she probably get's special privlages like saying f*ck the dress code.

This is such a stupid argument in the first place. 

Grats. You are making sniper sound logical and grounded in comparison.

What kind of drugs are you currently taking?

B. He's not criticizing your mom, get over it.

heretrix

If his mom told my mom she did a poor job of raising me, his mom would be quite a bitch, wouldn't she.

He has no place saying anything about how his peers in the industry do their jobs.