Halo is loved by the hardcore, casual and mainstream. Is it a phenomenon?

BTW "casual" and mainstream" are pretty much the same.clubsammich91

halo is casual

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

well, they left out a number of other features this time around. Wi-fi doesn't bother me (wire is always best) but it bothers a select group and their adapter's price tag does it no good.

they offered everything you would need at the time with Xbox Orig, and were ousted badly. Sony offered crap-nothing (feature-wise)and had poor quality control at the start. they still made tons of teh cash.

now Sony offers the bells and whistles, better initial quality etc, but they lose tons and tons of money in the process. just as MS did with every one of their 23 million Origs. and you really CAN'T blame them for charging for online at the time.

now I'm skipping around a lot, but my point is that they really flip-flopped in so many fields. doing the very opposite of eachother from their ps2/xbox transition.

AHUGECAT

Oh yeah I forgot about WiFi, that's a good point, but you can get WiFi + an Xbox 360 for under $299 (PS3 price), but yeah MS should've put it in (but would've cost too much).

And you can't blame them for cutting off the Xbox early too, $4 billion in losses, wow. Now of course MS is trying to get that back with outrageous priced peripherals (ie WiFi adapter).

The PS3 actually has been losing features since its original inception - they went from having 239053295 USB ports, memory card slots, backwards compatibility, etc. etc.

As for the Wifi+360 for under $299, not really...let me explain. Let us go with the cheapest options available.

1) Xbox Arcade ($199.99)

2) Wifi adapter ($99.99)

3) Live card for only a year. ($50.00)

So what do you get in the end? A total -before tax mind you- of $349.98. And that is before you buy and upgrade on that crappy memory space -new hard drive-(looking in the hundred dollar range), buy a wireless controller (around $65), and the rechargeable battery packs (though the former MAY do the trick for you but possibly another $20), to equal what you get with the $299.99 PS3. The ONLY thing that you get with the 360 stock that you don't get with the PS3 is a mic, and used to be a HD cable.

lol this games so much bs, i will be nailing someone and they get like 1 body shot on me and im dead.

i can totally out control the other player and i still die sometimes.

this game's gameplay is goddamn horrible, if they got rid of the dumbass aim bot..aiming cheat...called aim assisting.

id be kicking everyones ass period.

this game's online play is straight up trash..really it is.

because a few matches on halo 2 other day, you can tell other player sucked i was nailing the hell out of them the person couldnt hit me except 1 goddamn time and it was a random bullet i ran into myself and i die

on halo 2 people have some aim assist lock on cheat going really did.

this match dude was getting nothing but head shots no time spent aiming as soon as u seen him ur dead from a headshot.

no way dude could get a headshot every goddamn time like that lol.

Halo should be rated T not M.

Because Bungie is an amazing developer, their games are addicting and fun

Diviniuz

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yes, it is. It is the only reason the Xbox is around still. Sony would give up Resistance series, Killzone series, SOCOM series, Ratchet series, and a lot more JUST for Halo.

AHUGECAT

Even Microsoft will admit Halo is the reason the Xbox is still around. When the Xbox launched all it had was Halo (and Oddworld, but meh), and though a few good games released in its first year (Panzer Dragoon and Splinter Cell come to mind) it was Halo that kept it alive. Without Halo there would be no Xbox.

Not since COD4 came along and killed any and all interest in the series for me and others.

clubsammich91

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] no. the only reason Bungie is around mabey...but MS has other games believe it or not. theres more to MS than just halo. bet thats a shocker to you huh?delta3074

Even Microsoft will admit Halo is the reason the Xbox is still around. When the Xbox launched all it had was Halo (and Oddworld, but meh), and though a few good games released in its first year (Panzer Dragoon and Splinter Cell come to mind) it was Halo that kept it alive. Without Halo there would be no Xbox.

Discuss.

bphan

Not since COD4 came along and killed any and all interest in the series for me and others.

clubsammich91

[QUOTE="bphan"]

Discuss.

AzatiS

Phenomenon games are the ones that even if you dont like em , you can see that are good games.AzatiS

Then no game is a phenomenon game, as not everyone will see a game as good. I don't regard SMG as a good game, and can't see why anyone would. It's boring.

yeah, it's one rare extremely overhyped gem , but i agree, it's a phenomenonal game.

yeah, it's one rare extremely overhyped gem , but i agree, it's a phenomenonal game.

2mrw

It's only overhyped when it's an Xbox game with you.

GOWIII is overhyped. Especially since it's not even the best of its genre. Maybe the best graphics, but not gameplay.

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, it's one rare extremely overhyped gem , but i agree, it's a phenomenonal game.

It's only overhyped when it's an Xbox game with you.

GOWIII is overhyped. Especially since it's not even the best of its genre. Maybe the best graphics, but not gameplay.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, it's one rare extremely overhyped gem , but i agree, it's a phenomenonal game.

2mrw

It's only overhyped when it's an Xbox game with you.

GOWIII is overhyped. Especially since it's not even the best of its genre. Maybe the best graphics, but not gameplay.

ODST earned a 9.0 on Gamespot, and is actually a very good game. It has a great campaign, with a decent story, and one of the best original soundtracks ever heard in a Video Game. Other things included in ODST were, a fun, re-playable co-operative mode, and the best online console multiplayer experience, in one package. I do understand that it shouldn't have been $60, but that was a publisher decision, not a developer decision.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

It WAS a phenomenon, the series has turned into a bit of a joke with ODST (full game? Yeah right)andHalo Wars. Its been 9 years since Halo: CE, and 5 since Halo 2, after that the series has jumped the shark. Halo 3 was pretty good, but in a year with the superior CoD4 its just another in a line of declining Xbox games.

Nothing against MS, but all they seem to have for major exclusives are Halo, Gears, and maybe Fable. If MS could commit to more new IP's and creative ideas and just let Bungie run their course with Halo, I imagine they could really do something to rival PS3 monsters like Heavy Rain and Killzone 2.

So to answer your question, no it is not a phenomenon. It WAS one, but now its just another in a line of many, many shooters you can find.

EDIT: Also just wanted to say, people did not buy an Xbox for Halo, they bought Halo because it was the only good game forthe Xboxat the time. I could just say people bought a Nintendo for Wii play or PS3 owners bouth a PS3 for Resistance 1.

WilliamRLBaker

Ok, so MW2 and its bajillion sales mean its a credible series still? So the original Xbox did have more than Halo at launch? Why don't you enlighten me?

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Not since COD4 came along and killed any and all interest in the series for me and others.

tomarlyn

Killzone 2 and COD 4 are CRAP compared to a lot of fps, like Halo 3, Counter Strike:Source, Unreal 3 and Crysis.

Halo? I think I know some teenagers who like it.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Not since COD4 came along and killed any and all interest in the series for me and others.

Jamiemydearx3

Halo 3, Unreal 3 and COD 4 are CRAP compared to a lot of fps, like Killzone 2, Counter Strike:Source, Unreal Tournament 99 and Crysis.

I fixed it for ya :roll: And seriously, saying about Unreal 3 but not about UT99 really shows that you're a newcomer to the fps genre.

It's loved by the hardcore because its a shooter (every shooter has/had a hardcore fan base)
It's loved by the casual/mainstream because it's easy to pick up, easy to adapt to, and simple. Also has a great story.

Once you learn the controls and small strategies of Halo, it isn't long until you start killing more times than you die. People like things that they are good at. And Halo allows many people to be good at it. (Same for Call of Duty series) And as more people play it, everybody feels obligated to buy the next game in the series because if they don't, they'll be missing out on all of the fun with their friends. That's why it sells so much.