Halo is the most finely tuned modern day FPS.

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#1 Trinexxx
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By modern day FPS, I mean a franchise that is consistently relevant, so Counter-Strike: Source wouldn't count (unless you consider the new patch making it relevant, but I'm talking a series; not just updates).

I consider myself a fairly neutral poster on System Wars, I don't have too many posts but I've been absorbed in video games from a very young age and have probably played games for about 17 years now. I will admit that I do not own a PS3, not because of fanboyism, but because my wallet is pretty light from buying games for my 360, PC, and Wii. I recently built a high-end gaming PC and have played pretty much all the big FPS's over the last couple decades.


When I played the Halo: Reach beta, it reminded me why Halo is such a successful and rich multiplayer experience. The game has been balanced so carefully by Bungie, yet it finds a way to keep the formula fresh through new features like Forge, saved films, and now load outs and assassinations and cross hair bloom. Yet the game is still very balanced (the grenades could use a few tweaks, but that's an easy fix) and very fun to play. I thought jet packs would be the best **** but I found myself using sprint and armor lock much more often (unless I was on Sword Base). Even the grenade launcher is balanced (in the right hands, it's deadly but it takes a fair amount of time to figure out the splash damage). Bungie has nailed it yet again and show how they know how to create first person shooters that are balanced to play online which provide excellent competition and communication with team mates is key.

I can't wait for Fall.

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It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.
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nothing to brag about graphically.

but it's great. Jetpacks are my AA of choice.

frags and the shotgun need balancing. everything else is AOK.

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#7 VALikimlav
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Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.
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#8 SolidTy
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Considering Halo has been Halo all the way up to now, even through generations of consoles, I would say so.

Some games change up a lot with new hardware, like Mario World to Mario 64 or Mario 64 to Mario Sunshine, Metal Gear Solid to MGS2 to MGS4, or Final Fantasy 6 to Final Fantasy 7 to Final Fantasy X...you get the idea.

Halo is one of those games that seems to have retained it's original design since day one. Great for fans, but definitely finely tuned. I don't even have to wonder what the next decade of Halo holds, we can already guess.

Then again, with new developers taking over Halo after Halo Reach, who knows.

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#9 Mystic-G
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Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.VALikimlav
Being the most polished shooter in general is far too arguable for Uncharted 2. As far as FPS goes, that's up in the air.
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i got halo 3 as a free game on the 360. dont really play fps much but im learning.but man the game is REALLY outdated. the graphics looks really bad for an xbox game. guess ill be waiting for halo reach to get a console fps fix but now all the halo games available are way behind the competition graphic and gameplay wise but reach seem to be a great looking game that will be the best halo game this generation. i like the graphic and gameplay footage of reach. tho i need some pracrtice on a controller im really crap at fps with controllers.

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Till Battlefield 3 comes rolling around.

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I was about to say this. :P If Battlefield 3 is the proper successor to Battlefield 2, as i hope it will be, rather than Bad Company or Heroes, it'll likely be the only game which will stop me playing Reach for the next four years.
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[QUOTE="VALikimlav"]Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.Mystic-G
Being the most polished shooter in general is far too arguable for Uncharted 2. As far as FPS goes, that's up in the air.

uncharted 2 is a crappy shooter. the shooting mechanic feels very bad and is the worst thing in the game. its only a graphical and a great adventure game but as a shooter is suck big time. i have the game still did not finish it played the mp and was very disappointed with it. but the game looks great specially the first level when u start hanging from the train

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#14 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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I could agree with that in many places. I do think it has the most balanced multiplayer of any console game. It also doesn't have any bugs or glitches (not that I've noticed anyway) and it's presentation, whilst not amazing, is always respectable. I can see why people dislike the game, but it is definately well made and finely tuned.
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Halo is notable for its consistent quality over the years, but if it counts as FPS, the Metroid Prime trilogy is what I'd consider the best first person experience ever, and one of the best gaming experiences ever overall.

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Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.VALikimlav
Tean Fortress 2 for PC wants a word with you.
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i got halo 3 as a free game on the 360. dont really play fps much but im learning.but man the game is REALLY outdated. the graphics looks really bad for an xbox game. guess ill be waiting for halo reach to get a console fps fix but now all the halo games available are way behind the competition graphic and gameplay wise but reach seem to be a great looking game that will be the best halo game this generation. i like the graphic and gameplay footage of reach. tho i need some pracrtice on a controller im really crap at fps with controllers.

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Just curious, what shooters do you play on the PC? Because most of the major PC shooters don't have amazing graphics (Counter Strike, Battlefield 2, Team Fortress 2) You must play Modern Warfare or Bad Company 2, because of the widely played PC shooters, they're the only ones with great graphics.
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the only multiplayer game i play is counter strike source. the graphics are consistent looks outdated but looks still good and plays great(im addicted to gungame servers)

other than that i play only single player games fps. bad company 2 is one of my favourites i love the graphics and gameplay of this game it looks amazing maxed out. i also played fear 2 , modern warfare 2, half life2 episide 1 & episode 2 and crysis warhead(i hated crysis warhead it was one of the worst fps i exoerience the game was so boring)

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It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.N00bTuber
Wha? Please explain how KZ2's gameplay is any deeper than Halo's, considering armour abilities/equipment and vehicles. Easy to pick up maybe, but Halo's gameplay is no where near shallow.
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[QUOTE="N00bTuber"]It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.angelkimne
Wha? Please explain how KZ2's gameplay is any deeper than Halo's, considering armour abilities/equipment and vehicles. Easy to pick up maybe, but Halo's gameplay is no where near shallow.

Oh we're discussing depth? Arma 2 would like to have a word with this whole topic then.
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#21 pc-ps360
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[QUOTE="N00bTuber"]It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.angelkimne
Wha? Please explain how KZ2's gameplay is any deeper than Halo's, considering armour abilities/equipment and vehicles. Easy to pick up maybe, but Halo's gameplay is no where near shallow.

killzone 2 looks AMAZING but god damn the game is hard to control . it is so hard to aim and shoot and the motion blur make thing even harder and the turning speed is VERY SLOW. i cant even pass the first 10 minutes of the game they keep killing me a little bit after the intro.

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#22 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="N00bTuber"]It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.Mystic-G
Wha? Please explain how KZ2's gameplay is any deeper than Halo's, considering armour abilities/equipment and vehicles. Easy to pick up maybe, but Halo's gameplay is no where near shallow.

Oh we're discussing depth? Arma 2 would like to have a word with this whole topic then.

Probably, but I'm not silly enough to compare Halo to a PC simulator in terms of depth. :P
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#23 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="N00bTuber"]It's such a simple game that it does give that illusion, but it's because of it's simplicity. Halo is cool, but even KZ2 had a ton more stuff to tune and polish.pc-ps360

Wha? Please explain how KZ2's gameplay is any deeper than Halo's, considering armour abilities/equipment and vehicles. Easy to pick up maybe, but Halo's gameplay is no where near shallow.

killzone 2 looks AMAZING but god damn the game is hard to control . it is so hard to aim and shoot and the motion blur make thing even harder and the turning speed is VERY SLOW. i cant even pass the first 10 minutes of the game they keep killing me a little bit after the intro.

Try turning the sensitivity up and zooming in whenever you're aiming? Haven't played it for quite a while so that's the best advice I can give. Quite a bit different from Call of Duty though.
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Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.
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#25 Mystic-G
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Probably, but I'm not silly enough to compare Halo to a PC simulator in terms of depth. :Pangelkimne
lol... Well I guess it's how the OP defines 'finely-tuned' then.
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#26 wizardwd
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[QUOTE="VALikimlav"]Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.lordreaven
Tean Fortress 2 for PC wants a word with you.

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.
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#27 angelkimne
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Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.KHAndAnime
CS:S has 38,000 while Halo 3 has 89,000. Though, to be fair, Halo 3 has probably gotten a boost from the Reach beta.
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="VALikimlav"]Halo is the most polished shooter. Definitely agree on that one.wizardwd
Tean Fortress 2 for PC wants a word with you.

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.

You can't really beat the 118 Patches/Updates for the game. And i'll be honest, Reaches online will be great for teh first week but after that, it'll be a Teabag fest (i'm being serious on that remark). And Halo dosn't have the Hobo Spyhttp://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6186/spyck.jpg (my buddy made that fro me using G-mod 10)

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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.angelkimne
CS:S has 38,000 while Halo 3 has 89,000. Though, to be fair, Halo 3 has probably gotten a boost from the Reach beta.

actually, Halo 3 was still breaking 150k before the beta.

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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.angelkimne
CS:S has 38,000 while Halo 3 has 89,000. Though, to be fair, Halo 3 has probably gotten a boost from the Reach beta.

Not to mention CS:S is three years older than Halo 3. =P
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I disagree, it is polished without a doubt but the valve FPS of this generation do the genre better justice and are more fun because of the style they are polished. Halo is a game anyone can jump into and have a good time but its not a game with any tactical depth beyond the simplicity and that is the charm. Team Fortress 2 on the other hand is easy to get into, offers tactical choice, and appeals to more then the twitch crowd (how I got some people who are scared of FPS into it).

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#32 lordreaven
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I disagree, it is polished without a doubt but the valve FPS of this generation do the genre better justice and are more fun because of the style they are polished. Halo is a game anyone can jump into and have a good time but its not a game with any tactical depth beyond the simplicity and that is the charm. Team Fortress 2 on the other hand is easy to get into, offers tactical choice, and appeals to more then the twitch crowd (how I got some people who are scared of FPS into it).

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.Mystic-G
CS:S has 38,000 while Halo 3 has 89,000. Though, to be fair, Halo 3 has probably gotten a boost from the Reach beta.

Not to mention CS:S is three years older than Halo 3. =P

and css had a high of 75,000 today.
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#34 Evz0rz
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I'm not sure about MOST finely tuned, but it is a damn fun time any time I play with my friends :D

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I agree. Best fps on consoles imo. The balanced gameplay is like no other, and it's so much fun it's addicting.
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[QUOTE="wizardwd"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Tean Fortress 2 for PC wants a word with you.lordreaven

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.

You can't really beat the 118 Patches/Updates for the game. And i'll be honest, Reaches online will be great for teh first week but after that, it'll be a Teabag fest (i'm being serious on that remark). And Halo dosn't have the Hobo Spyhttp://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6186/spyck.jpg (my buddy made that fro me using G-mod 10)

I think you misread my post. Nowhere am I taking anything from Team Fortress 2. It is up there with Halo as highly polished shooters. Even if I have only played it far less then I would have wanted too, stupid laptop sucks too much and my internet connection is weak, I can shamefully say that I have played it mostly on my 360 =(.
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Cool opinion :P

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[QUOTE="wizardwd"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.wizardwd
You can't really beat the 118 Patches/Updates for the game. And i'll be honest, Reaches online will be great for teh first week but after that, it'll be a Teabag fest (i'm being serious on that remark). And Halo dosn't have the Hobo Spyhttp://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6186/spyck.jpg (my buddy made that fro me using G-mod 10)

I think you misread my post. Nowhere am I taking anything from Team Fortress 2. It is up there with Halo as highly polished shooters. Even if I have only played it far less then I would have wanted too, stupid laptop sucks too much and my internet connection is weak, I can shamefully say that I have played it mostly on my 360 =(.

Ah, my bad then. I was just trying to find a way to post the awesome pic my buddy made as well :oops:
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Its the Wii of FPS, casuals love it

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#40 Trinexxx
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^You must not of played with friends who use team work and want to play competitively. Nice to see another uninformed opinion on SW though.

[QUOTE="wizardwd"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Tean Fortress 2 for PC wants a word with you.lordreaven

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.

You can't really beat the 118 Patches/Updates for the game. And i'll be honest, Reaches online will be great for teh first week but after that, it'll be a Teabag fest (i'm being serious on that remark). And Halo dosn't have the Hobo Spyhttp://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6186/spyck.jpg (my buddy made that fro me using G-mod 10)

That's the beauty of it, Halo: Reach will only get better as time goes by. The community will come up with creative game types and maps with Forge (I already see some potential with the generator defense), which Bungie will implement into matchmaking. Not to mention the extra maps and patches.
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Halo Reach is gonna be the best. No doubt.

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#42 HavocV3
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Halo Reach is gonna be the best. No doubt.

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I disagree.

but I'm pessimistic, grain of salt....etc.

gimped jumping kills that game for me though.:|

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#43 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]^You must not of played with friends who use team work and want to play competitively. Nice to see another uninformed opinion on SW though. [QUOTE="lordreaven"]

While Team Fortress 2 is highly polished, Halo, as a series is one of the most polished shooters. Throughout all current titles, Halo CE, Halo CE PC, Halo 2, Halo 2 PC, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, and now with the Beta for Halo Reach, you can see the attention to detail that the team at Bungie have.wizardwd
You can't really beat the 118 Patches/Updates for the game. And i'll be honest, Reaches online will be great for teh first week but after that, it'll be a Teabag fest (i'm being serious on that remark). And Halo dosn't have the Hobo Spyhttp://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6186/spyck.jpg (my buddy made that fro me using G-mod 10)

That's the beauty of it, Halo: Reach will only get better as time goes by. The community will come up with creative game types and maps with Forge (I already see some potential with the generator defense), which Bungie will implement into matchmaking. Not to mention the extra maps and patches.

lack of Hobo Spy is disturbing..........
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Its the Wii of FPS, casuals love it

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Ok when was the last time you played halo online?
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#45 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="dachase"]

Its the Wii of FPS, casuals love it

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Ok when was the last time you played halo online?

frendz houze yo.

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#46 gammon56
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="gammon56"][QUOTE="dachase"]

Its the Wii of FPS, casuals love it

Ok when was the last time you played halo online?

frendz houze yo.

Exactly thats what everyone who hates on halo will say.
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A game is still relevent as long as it's being played and CS still has lots of players, Quake Live is also a candidate.
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#48 Trinexxx
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A game is still relevent as long as it's being played and CS still has lots of players, Quake Live is also a candidate.markop2003
I mean an evolving game franchise. CS is the same thing over with a new graphics engine or small tweaks.
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#49 gamer4life85
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Doesn't CS:S have more players than Halo 3 online? I don't see how it isn't relevant.angelkimne
CS:S has 38,000 while Halo 3 has 89,000. Though, to be fair, Halo 3 has probably gotten a boost from the Reach beta.

the other day halo had 123,000 people when i was on the other day

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#50 dark-warmachine
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I agree, Halo is fine tuned. With that in mind, I still prefer Call of Duty's gameplay over Halo's. I just wish it were more balanced and had less noob perks/weaponry/attachments/killstreaks then it wouldget less hate around here.:cry: COD'sS&D ftw.