halo reach: aka the next call of duty?

r u dissapointed with halo reach? i am... no dual wielding gives the weapons no variety... almost every match is with dmr's... halo turned into a grenade fest of stealing kills... and the ranking system is like cod too... wtf bungie? this game is a flop for me, doesn't feel like halo at all.

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

xOMGITSJASONx

[QUOTE="babybinky"]

r u dissapointed with halo reach? i am... no dual wielding gives the weapons no variety... almost every match is with dmr's... halo turned into a grenade fest of stealing kills... and the ranking system is like cod too... wtf bungie? this game is a flop for me, doesn't feel like halo at all.

Jamani

Halo CE didn't have dual-wielding and there was still plenty of variety in it. And the game doesn't feel like Halo? And here I was told it was supposed to be Halo 3 with better graphics. :roll:SpiritOfFire117

CE came out in 2001. For a console game it was ahead of its time at its time in 2001 for a console game. Every Halo made after CE was a step below even with multiplayer, forge, theater and firefight.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

SpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

SpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Halo CE didn't have dual-wielding and there was still plenty of variety in it. And the game doesn't feel like Halo? And here I was told it was supposed to be Halo 3 with better graphics. :roll:xOMGITSJASONx

CE came out in 2001. For a console game it was ahead of its time at its time in 2001 for a console game. Every Halo made after CE was a step below even with multiplayer, forge, theater and firefight.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

waltefmoney

Its pretty standard for what Halo has become. CE had everything right, and they have slowly chipped away everything that was good about that game.

I hate what Halo has become. CE was a masterpiece and the whole series could have been spectacular, but even though I'm not a fan, it's still better than 90% of the FPS genre...and that is sad

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Halo CE didn't have dual-wielding and there was still plenty of variety in it. And the game doesn't feel like Halo? And here I was told it was supposed to be Halo 3 with better graphics. :roll:xOMGITSJASONx

CE came out in 2001. For a console game it was ahead of its time at its time in 2001 for a console game. Every Halo made after CE was a step below even with multiplayer, forge, theater and firefight.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]What's been "childish" about it?

MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

SpiritOfFire117

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"] The main character isn't a complete prick making it unrealistic and childish.

SpiritOfFire117

Its pretty standard for what Halo has become. CE had everything right, and they have slowly chipped away everything that was good about that game.

I hate what Halo has become. CE was a masterpiece and the whole series could have been spectacular, but even though I'm not a fan, it's still better than 90% of the FPS genre...and that is sad

dimebag667

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

xOMGITSJASONx

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

Also since the war had been dragging on for more than 27 years (there was even a long period of Insurrection before that), chances are most people will be pretty use to death and destruction by then.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"] The main character isn't a complete prick making it unrealistic and childish.

SpiritOfFire117

Last time i checked people who are in war do more than cuss. They shoot innocent people, shoot there own soldiers (friendly fire) etc.. War is emotional thats why soldiers come back home messed up mentally. In every Halo game they are like emotionless robots especially Master Chief. I mean its cool to jump 30 feet in the air and head shot people in Halo but its not my style. I rather jump 30 inches off the ground and have weight on my body which the way KZ2 made me feel. Too each their own though.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]What's been "childish" about it?

SpiritOfFire117

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

Also since the war had been dragging on for more than 27 years (there was even a long period of Insurrection before that), chances are most people will be pretty use to death and destruction by then.

If Noble team had one character like Rico who was a Sparton.. Reach never would have fallen to the Convenant.. i bet that much lol.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

xOMGITSJASONx

Also since the war had been dragging on for more than 27 years (there was even a long period of Insurrection before that), chances are most people will be pretty use to death and destruction by then.

If Noble team had one character like Rico who was a Sparton.. Reach never would have fallen to the Convenant.. i bet that much lol.

If Noble team had one character like Rico..they wouldn't be called Noble team.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] I think it needs characters cursing every second like kz2. xOMGITSJASONx

Last time i checked people who are in war do more than cuss. They shoot innocent people, shoot there own soldiers (friendly fire) etc.. War is emotional thats why soldiers come back home messed up mentally. In every Halo game they are like emotionless robots especially Master Chief. I mean its cool to jump 30 feet in the air and head shot people in Halo but its not my style. I rather jump 30 inches off the ground and have weight on my body which the way KZ2 made me feel. Too each their own though.

master chief rarely talks because he was born and grown up constantly being told what to do. When he's on a mission, thats all he talks about. also, in halo 3, he doesn't really have a lot of people to talk to. Do you expect to go oh **** every time some covenant soldiers appear like in KZ2? cause that is actually more immature. A soldier focuses on what he needs to do while not cussing. Disciplined soldiers don't cuss.

The one complaint I have about reach is that players get to choose what they wanna play.

Which means I have to play games I don't wanna play sometimes.

It's just a pain. If I wanted play a game with zombies I would play L4D, not safe havens. :?

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

xOMGITSJASONx

Also since the war had been dragging on for more than 27 years (there was even a long period of Insurrection before that), chances are most people will be pretty use to death and destruction by then.

If Noble team had one character like Rico who was a Sparton.. Reach never would have fallen to the Convenant.. i bet that much lol.

Reach fell because a large armada came out of Slipspace and obliterated nearly the entire UNSC fleet there. Plus nearly all the remaining Spartan-IIs were killed in the battle. So yeah, one pissed dude in MJOLNIR is really going to make a difference when he's ash. :roll:

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

xOMGITSJASONx

[QUOTE="dimebag667"]

Its pretty standard for what Halo has become. CE had everything right, and they have slowly chipped away everything that was good about that game.

I hate what Halo has become. CE was a masterpiece and the whole series could have been spectacular, but even though I'm not a fan, it's still better than 90% of the FPS genre...and that is sad

SpiritOfFire117

As far as story and lore goes, I think that is the weakest part of Halo. I read the first four books, and besides the first, they suck. MP is why people play Halo and thats the bottom line. I'm sure a couple people will pop up and go "I only play single player" but you are about 1% of the millions of Halo players. And the single player in CE was pretty good but not half as good as multiplayer.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="dimebag667"]

Its pretty standard for what Halo has become. CE had everything right, and they have slowly chipped away everything that was good about that game.

I hate what Halo has become. CE was a masterpiece and the whole series could have been spectacular, but even though I'm not a fan, it's still better than 90% of the FPS genre...and that is sad

dimebag667

As far as story and lore goes, I think that is the weakest part of Halo. I read the first four books, and besides the first, they suck. MP is why people play Halo and thats the bottom line. I'm sure a couple people will pop up and go "I only play single player" but you are about 1% of the millions of Halo players. And the single player in CE was pretty good but not half as good as multiplayer.

[QUOTE="babybinky"]

r u dissapointed with halo reach? i am... no dual wielding gives the weapons no variety... almost every match is with dmr's... halo turned into a grenade fest of stealing kills... and the ranking system is like cod too... wtf bungie? this game is a flop for me, doesn't feel like halo at all.

Jamani

I think the gameplay is great and takes alot of skill.

Ive never had a game where I felt like i was just being bombarded with cheap kills.

This is my first halo game besides halo2, and I think its awesome.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Throw in a few of Natko's "your mom" jokes and you'll have it right.

gamedude234

Last time i checked people who are in war do more than cuss. They shoot innocent people, shoot there own soldiers (friendly fire) etc.. War is emotional thats why soldiers come back home messed up mentally. In every Halo game they are like emotionless robots especially Master Chief. I mean its cool to jump 30 feet in the air and head shot people in Halo but its not my style. I rather jump 30 inches off the ground and have weight on my body which the way KZ2 made me feel. Too each their own though.

master chief rarely talks because he was born and grown up constantly being told what to do. When he's on a mission, thats all he talks about. also, in halo 3, he doesn't really have a lot of people to talk to. Do you expect to go oh **** every time some covenant soldiers appear like in KZ2? cause that is actually more immature. A soldier focuses on what he needs to do while not cussing. Disciplined soldiers don't cuss.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

skilfulgary

r u dissapointed with halo reach? i am... no dual wielding gives the weapons no variety... almost every match is with dmr's... halo turned into a grenade fest of stealing kills... and the ranking system is like cod too... wtf bungie? this game is a flop for me, doesn't feel like halo at all.

babybinky

COD has dual-wielding, so I guess that's not working out too well.

though I agree, it needs dual-wielding back.

otherwise. lol-no. you used to be able to carry 3 of each grenade. now it's 2x2. so you get 4 grenades in Reach to 6 in H3.

Reach was a grenade fest in the beta, but now nade kills in the final version have been VERY FEW and far between.

nope. COD has weapon unlocks, which contributes to a lack of game balance. I get to customize my Spartan, not my weapons. which is good.

[QUOTE="Jamani"][QUOTE="babybinky"]

r u dissapointed with halo reach? i am... no dual wielding gives the weapons no variety... almost every match is with dmr's... halo turned into a grenade fest of stealing kills... and the ranking system is like cod too... wtf bungie? this game is a flop for me, doesn't feel like halo at all.

Vinegar_Strokes

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

waltefmoney

sev wasnt, he was pretty down to earth...And rico is more a supporting dimwit that is in dire need of killing of as karmaic payback.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

xOMGITSJASONx

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

xOMGITSJASONx

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

I always thought that MC should of actually t-bagged the Covenant in the cut scenes while yelling explitives

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]What's been "childish" about it?

Avian005

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

Come to think of it, he DID essentially destroy Helghan.

[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

No characters like Rico exist in any Halo game. That says it all. It boils down to the characters in the end. They (Halo characters) have no emotions, they are never pissed, they don't cuss at all or go crazy even when they are losing the war/ world etc.. its not believable, the characters i mean. You have Rico from KZ2 salivating, cussing and even accidentally killing his own teammate (Garza) cause he was so hell bent on killing all Higs. That to me is believable for a guy in a life or death war situaion.

SpiritOfFire117

Come to think of it, he DID essentially destroy Helghan.

that doesn't excuse him being a douche

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Its a good game CE was better. All Halo's are overrated on SW. Killzone 2 is better ino. I played every Halo and they seem too childish.. KZ is more mature and i like its style more. But yeah, Reach is the second best Halo game ever made imo.

waltefmoney

[QUOTE="dimebag667"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]But HAS been spectacular as a series. Why would people play the mp frequently and delve into the lore if it wasn't? :|

SpiritOfFire117

As far as story and lore goes, I think that is the weakest part of Halo. I read the first four books, and besides the first, they suck. MP is why people play Halo and thats the bottom line. I'm sure a couple people will pop up and go "I only play single player" but you are about 1% of the millions of Halo players. And the single player in CE was pretty good but not half as good as multiplayer.

I got more play out of CoD,

I got about 3 days play out of Reach... completely and utterly overrated. Understandable for a site that doesn't want to have half it's members leave though.