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#51 PAL360
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So....are lemmings not allowed to be exited with their games and graphics like cows do all the time? Also most Halo threads are made by haters to bash it and its graphics. I dont see half the praise for Reach i saw for Killzone2 and Uncharted2 years before their release.....

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#52 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]OMG who cares. A PS3 user making a thread saying that Halo graphics bad blah blah blah. MY god there has been one trailer and the game is a year away. I have seen so many PS3 users making anti-Halo threads lately are they really that threatened by a game a year away?

And are lemmings that nervous that they have nothing that can compete against the PS3's amount of visually amazing games that they are toting this game graphics king?

Maybe some lemmings in system wars are. I think the majority of people really don't care if no X-box 360 game won't look as good as U2 or KZ2.
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#53 qbell
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they should just add unrealistic colors like bright green to fool all the cows into coming to the dark side! kind of like DKC did for the snes
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#54 carljohnson3456
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I just dont see the hype for the game's graphics. It looks great, but to me it doesnt look as good as people are saying. Maybe it's just me...
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#55 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]OMG who cares. A PS3 user making a thread saying that Halo graphics bad blah blah blah. MY god there has been one trailer and the game is a year away. I have seen so many PS3 users making anti-Halo threads lately are they really that threatened by a game a year away?Supafly1
And are lemmings that nervous that they have nothing that can compete against the PS3's amount of visually amazing games that they are toting this game graphics king?

Maybe some lemmings in system wars are. I think the majority of people really don't care if no X-box 360 game won't look as good as U2 or KZ2.

As long as the X360 is capable of Gears of Wars 2 quality graphics, I dont think Lems have anything to worry about.

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#56 mtmatt
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Who cares about graphics? Gameplay is far more important, is it not?monkeytoes61
Exactly. TC brings killzone into the discussion and is anyone still playing that game on the system with free online?
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#57 beekayjay
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Who cares about graphics? Gameplay is far more important, is it not?mtmatt
Exactly. TC brings killzone into the discussion and is anyone still playing that game on the system with free online?

Yes.

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#58 sikanderahmed
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It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

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crysis on medium looks pathetic

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#59 Doctor-McNinja
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Bungie themselves said it has a new engine. :|
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#60 beekayjay
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[QUOTE="GhoX"][QUOTE="agff9"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

Stalker says no

Stalker's and Crysis's graphics aren't even on the same level. Stalker Clear Sky   Crysis with texture pack and some tweaks.

Honestly, those are some of the worst shots for those games. I actually think those two games ARE really good looking but you did the cause a total disservice by posting those shots. Terrible.
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#61 Vandalvideo
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Even if we accept that the Halo Reach footage was indeed in ENGINE (it was a bloody custcene people), then I still thinkt he graphics weren't all that. I think Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 both look better than that trailer. The environment looked like a mess. About the only redeeming quality was the lighting in the trailer.
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#62 playharderfool
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

sikanderahmed

crysis on medium looks pathetic

I agree with this, alot of games look better than Crysis on medium. Really some people on here act like nobody else on earth owns the game and konws what it looks like on diffrent settings.

The only time Crysis blows anything away is on modded very-high or ultra settings.

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#63 93soccer
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[QUOTE="Panther501"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

Thats exactly my point. maybe not on medium but it certainly does when the settings are cranked up.

Trust me, Crysis on MEDIUM blows the games away. OP, your comparing a trailer that is actually a part of the game to leaked pics taken by a crap camera and with filler textures and other material? WOW
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#64 hockeyruler12
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Didn't Bungie say that the trailer is exactly how the final game will look, aside for some heavy AA in the trailer?

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#65 MGS4_GOAT
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[QUOTE="awuilfj"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

ToScA-
I have to agree, pc is the graphics king, lemmings have to get used to that idea. :)

Indeed. However, moreso do cows. Rarely do I see 'Gears of War 2 vs Crysis' - threads as opposed to the redundant 'Uncharted 2 vs Crysis'.

Thats because Gears is no way near crysis on medium settings while Uncharted looks on par with crysis on high settings.
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#66 93soccer
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="awuilfj"] I have to agree, pc is the graphics king, lemmings have to get used to that idea. :)MGS4_GOAT
Indeed. However, moreso do cows. Rarely do I see 'Gears of War 2 vs Crysis' - threads as opposed to the redundant 'Uncharted 2 vs Crysis'.

Thats because Gears is no way near crysis on medium settings while Uncharted looks on par with crysis on high settings.

:lol: See awuilfj and ToScA? We have proof right here that cows believe that Uncharted 2 looks as good as Crysis on high
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#67 deactivated-598fc45371265
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That's the first Uncharted actually.

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#68 SaltyMeatballs
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Still too early to tell. I thought the trailer looked great, if they get the framerate good and keep the size of the levels in Halo games, then it's a contender IMO. But seeing as all we have is a trailer, we should at least wait till the Beta comes in Spring.
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#69 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="MGS4_GOAT"][QUOTE="ToScA-"] Indeed. However, moreso do cows. Rarely do I see 'Gears of War 2 vs Crysis' - threads as opposed to the redundant 'Uncharted 2 vs Crysis'.93soccer
Thats because Gears is no way near crysis on medium settings while Uncharted looks on par with crysis on high settings.

:lol: See awuilfj and ToScA? We have proof right here that cows believe that Uncharted 2 looks as good as Crysis on high

One guy with a new account does not represent a whole faction.
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#70 teh_shogun
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the ps3 still doesn't have anything as fun as halo lol so there goes that argument

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#71 heretrix
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You know TC, when you said "nonsensical graphics king idea" I was hoping that you were speaking out against the idea itself. Instead all I got was some silly rant about how Halo:Reach doesn't look as good as Uncharted.

LAME.

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#72 daveg1
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it looks a hell ove alot more 3dimensionla than either of those games on the ps3..anyway why are you even talking about the graphics of reach all we've seen is a trailer and some supposed shots of the game that dont even look anywhere near finsihed..
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#73 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Who cares about graphics? Gameplay is far more important, is it not?awssk8er716

You are 100% right, but 360 fanboys kept saying that Halo Reach's graphics were going to be better than anything we've ever seen, then once some footage is released, they totally switched sides and started saying stuff like:

OMG who cares. A PS3 user making a thread saying that Halo graphics bad blah blah blah.

MY god there has been one trailer and the game is a year away. I have seen so many PS3 users making anti-Halo threads lately are they really that threatened by a game a year away?CanYouDiglt

I am not switching to anything but even if I was to WHAT? Show me gameplay? There is none and we know very little the game since it is almost a year away still. It is crazy how threatened PS3 users are of Halo to have two different Halo graphic bash threads on the front page and all that has been shown is a 30 second trailer.

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#74 Asim90
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f

The textures on the mountain here look last gen. Surely this can't be right?

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#75 Tessellation
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LMAO Halo Reach video caused the insecure fanboys to make countless thread about it,most be that the game is looking good.
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#76 93soccer
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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="MGS4_GOAT"] Thats because Gears is no way near crysis on medium settings while Uncharted looks on par with crysis on high settings.Chutebox
:lol: See awuilfj and ToScA? We have proof right here that cows believe that Uncharted 2 looks as good as Crysis on high

One guy with a new account does not represent a whole faction.

Yes, but that's how 95% of cows act anyways
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#77 93soccer
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

f

The textures on the mountain here look last gen. Surely this can't be right?

I hope you realize that's a pre-alpha pic with fillers right?
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#78 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

playharderfool

crysis on medium looks pathetic

I agree with this, alot of games look better than Crysis on medium. Really some people on here act like nobody else on earth owns the game and konws what it looks like on diffrent settings.

The only time Crysis blows anything away is on modded very-high or ultra settings.

Crysis on medium looks better than UC2,stop trying to push it is a well known fact crysis still the king.
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#79 Asim90
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

f

The textures on the mountain here look last gen. Surely this can't be right?

93soccer

I hope you realize that's a pre-alpha pic with fillers right?

Ah right, thats makes sense. I've never seen this picture before.

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#80 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

DarkLink77

Agreed, maybe not on medium but it certainly does when the settings are cranked up.

I dunno. I just got it yesterday. My comp will only run it on medium with a solid frame rate, but it's still the best looking game I've ever seen. The point stands though. Crysis is still king.

On another note, am I the only one who feels sorry for Epic and id and other engine licensers when Crytek starts licensing the CryEngine?

I think id tech 5 seems to have more potential than CryEngine, because of their virtual texturing which allows the engine to run128000x128000 pixels. This means no matter how much the average dev increases the textures, they won't recieve a hit in memory. This in turn means REALLY good graphics running at REALLY good frame rates, in theory. Also, it will be open source, and free stuff is always more attractive than stuff you want to license.

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#81 Asim90
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If the screenshots that were posted are pre-alpha with fillers, then what is the point of this thread? There is nothing to debate.

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#82 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]

You are 100% right, but 360 fanboys kept saying that Halo Reach's graphics were going to be better than anything we've ever seen, then once some footage is released, they totally switched sides and started saying stuff like:

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]OMG who cares. A PS3 user making a thread saying that Halo graphics bad blah blah blah.

MY god there has been one trailer and the game is a year away. I have seen so many PS3 users making anti-Halo threads lately are they really that threatened by a game a year away?CanYouDiglt

I am not switching to anything but even if I was to WHAT? Show me gameplay? There is none and we know very little the game since it is almost a year away still. It is crazy how threatened PS3 users are of Halo to have two different Halo graphic bash threads on the front page and all that has been shown is a 30 second trailer.

Well at least the KZ2 trailer looked good, the reach trailer, considering it is what they are striving for but don't have yet, seemed very underwhelming to me. Regardless, we will have to hold judgement until the game comes out.

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#83 93soccer
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If the screenshots that were posted are pre-alpha with fillers, then what is the point of this thread? There is nothing to debate.

Asim90
Yes, but you should remember this is SW. Fanboys will argue about ANYTHING. Like if there was no pics or cutscene of Reach, fanboys would still argue how it looks crap :P
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#84 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="awuilfj"] I have to agree, pc is the graphics king, lemmings have to get used to that idea. :)MGS4_GOAT
Indeed. However, moreso do cows. Rarely do I see 'Gears of War 2 vs Crysis' - threads as opposed to the redundant 'Uncharted 2 vs Crysis'.

Thats because Gears is no way near crysis on medium settings while Uncharted looks on par with crysis on high settings.

Nope, better than medium, yes, but high with all the stuff going on, no way.

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#85 mitu123
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

It's irrevelent, because Crysis on Medium blows away just about anything on the market.

playharderfool

crysis on medium looks pathetic

I agree with this, alot of games look better than Crysis on medium.

I can see Arma II, Shattered Horizon and STALKER: Clear Sky looking better...

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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

93soccer

I am not switching to anything but even if I was to WHAT? Show me gameplay? There is none and we know very little the game since it is almost a year away still. It is crazy how threatened PS3 users are of Halo to have two different Halo graphic bash threads on the front page and all that has been shown is a 30 second trailer.

Well at least the KZ2 trailer looked good, the reach trailer, considering it is what they are striving for but don't have yet, seemed very underwhelming to me. Regardless, we will have to hold judgement until the game comes out.

I actually though the trailer was really really detailed. maybe because people pick realism over artstyle. but in reality that trailer was crazy, I have the 720p and I wwatch it every day and see something new every time. kinda cool actually

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#87 tagyhag
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The reason as to why Halo games never looks mindblowing is that they allow for 4 player splitscreen, do either KZ2 or Uncharted 2 allow for that? Now if Halo Reach were to be a purely single player experience, I think it could reach the levels of KZ2, with more open levels.
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#88 MC3887
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]The reason as to why Halo games never looks mindblowing is that they allow for 4 player splitscreen, do either KZ2 or Uncharted 2 allow for that? Now if Halo Reach were to be a purely single player experience, I think it could reach the levels of KZ2, with more open levels.

This halo has to much going on to be graphics king, why do you think KZ2 still does not have spilt screen? Has larger map areas, more enemies, etc. Do you really think the X360 or PS3 can pull thoughs graphics with so much, no they BOTH can't.
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#89 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]The reason as to why Halo games never looks mindblowing is that they allow for 4 player splitscreen, do either KZ2 or Uncharted 2 allow for that? Now if Halo Reach were to be a purely single player experience, I think it could reach the levels of KZ2, with more open levels.

This halo has to much going on to be graphics king, why do you think KZ2 still does not have spilt screen? Has larger map areas, more enemies, etc. Do you really think the X360 or PS3 can pull thoughs graphics with so much, no they BOTH can't.

I don't understand. I believe this Halo has potential, if it were to be as limited in scope as KZ2 and did not allow for coop or splitscreen multiplayer, then I'm sure it could look equally as good as KZ2, of course that won't be the case since it IS Halo, splitscreen gameplay has always been one of its big traits and I hope they don't stop that.
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#90 opex07
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Nope, better than medium, yes, but high with all the stuff going on, no way.

mitu123

No console game beats crysis on medium due to crysis's large scope.

Having to render large areas, and more onscreen would obviously be a more difficult process than rendering a small linear one, and would certainly be an advantage a large game has over a linear one graphically.

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#91 MC3887
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]The reason as to why Halo games never looks mindblowing is that they allow for 4 player splitscreen, do either KZ2 or Uncharted 2 allow for that? Now if Halo Reach were to be a purely single player experience, I think it could reach the levels of KZ2, with more open levels.

This halo has to much going on to be graphics king, why do you think KZ2 still does not have spilt screen? Has larger map areas, more enemies, etc. Do you really think the X360 or PS3 can pull thoughs graphics with so much, no they BOTH can't.

I don't understand. I believe this Halo has potential, if it were to be as limited in scope as KZ2 and did not allow for coop or splitscreen multiplayer, then I'm sure it could look equally as good as KZ2, of course that won't be the case since it IS Halo, splitscreen gameplay has always been one of its big traits and I hope they don't stop that.

You don't understand? Well just know this, I agree with you. I would like to see an MS dev take the U2/KZ2 scope attempt and see how it comes out. Even GEOW seems larger than U2/kz2. Well KZ2 is about equal to GEOW is scope/things going on.
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#92 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]Nope, better than medium, yes, but high with all the stuff going on, no way.

opex07

No console game beats crysis on medium due to crysis's large scope.

Having to render large areas, and more onscreen would obviously be a more difficult process than rendering a small linear one, and would certainly be an advantage a large game has over a linear one graphically.

I was just making the cows feel better, I already know it doesn't beat it, I own both games.:P

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#93 VendettaRed07
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Can we wait for some real gameplay footage or something? Sure its highly unlikely that it will be graphics king but saying it will look exactly the same when all you have for evidence is a shaky off screen shot thats not even confirmed to be real is foolish. Even if it was who knows how far into development the pics were taken.

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#94 mythrol
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[QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]I agree man. Remember their old Announcement trailer interview: "This is the game. This is the engine. This is what Halo 3 is going to look like." LOL, such BS. Anyway, Halo: Reach won't touch Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. GUARANTEED.

You don't know wtf you're talking about. BEFORE the Halo 3 trailer was shown Bungie announced that it was a mixture of CGI, real-time, and in-game footage. Halo Reach may or may not touch KZ2 / UC2 in graphics, but they're such completely different styles of games that it's hard to compare. KZ2 AND UC2 both are closed quarters shooters, you're basically on a trail that you keep following forward. The Halo series has always been about huge wide open areas, which is far more taxing on a GPU than small highly detailed environments. KZ2/UC2 look great. But to be honest, if Halo Reach matches the trailer they showed, I'd choose Halo Reach graphics + wide open areas than either KZ2 or UC2 graphics and smaller close space environments.
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#95 MC3887
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="BlindfireMcgee"]I agree man. Remember their old Announcement trailer interview: "This is the game. This is the engine. This is what Halo 3 is going to look like." LOL, such BS. Anyway, Halo: Reach won't touch Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. GUARANTEED.

You don't know wtf you're talking about. BEFORE the Halo 3 trailer was shown Bungie announced that it was a mixture of CGI, real-time, and in-game footage. Halo Reach may or may not touch KZ2 / UC2 in graphics, but they're such completely different styles of games that it's hard to compare. KZ2 AND UC2 both are closed quarters shooters, you're basically on a trail that you keep following forward. The Halo series has always been about huge wide open areas, which is far more taxing on a GPU than small highly detailed environments. KZ2/UC2 look great. But to be honest, if Halo Reach matches the trailer they showed, I'd choose Halo Reach graphics + wide open areas than either KZ2 or UC2 graphics and smaller close space environments.

The amount going on in halo games also crush most games.
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#96 AdmiralBison
Member since 2008 • 3970 Posts

OMG who cares. A PS3 user making a thread saying that Halo graphics bad blah blah blah. MY god there has been one trailer and the game is a year away. I have seen so many PS3 users making anti-Halo threads lately are they really that threatened by a game a year away?CanYouDiglt

Remember this is Halo we are talking about.

Of course there is going to hate on it mostly from Cows.

The Hype and Anti-hype has just begun.