Halo Reach and Uncharted 2, someones gotta do it

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#251 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]

Eh... I was hoping for something that wasn't riddled with opinions but I should of known better from SW :|

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How do you expect anyone to PROVE one's better than the other? Quality's subjective

This is a fact System Wars fails to grasp. I don't know what it is with people here, if I tell someone that X is better than Y they know it's my opinion... if I say it here people think I'm trying to pass it off as fact.

Remember in high school/ college. If you were writing a persuasive essay or anything of the sort, if you said it was your opinion you'd get points off instantly. You have to pass it off as fact. It just works better in debates that way. There are multiple view points. But you try to make yours look strongest. That's what a debate is.
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#252 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"] Eh... I was hoping for something that wasn't riddled with opinions but I should of known better from SW :|

I was actually expecting people to argue his points but I've only seen people try to discredit him and mention the ZOMG AWESOME GRAPHICS that Uncharted 2 has :|

Hold on.. you actually expect me to argue my opinion vs his?
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#253 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"] Eh... I was hoping for something that wasn't riddled with opinions but I should of known better from SW :|

I was actually expecting people to argue his points but I've only seen people try to discredit him and mention the ZOMG AWESOME GRAPHICS that Uncharted 2 has :|

Haven't seen that.
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#254 mitu123
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I agree with everything and I own both games.

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#255 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]

Eh... I was hoping for something that wasn't riddled with opinions but I should of known better from SW :|

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How do you expect anyone to PROVE one's better than the other? Quality's subjective

Are you kidding me? Go to any head2head site or watch any comparison video. These guys manage to accurately state everything without masking them with their opinions. Not to mention they also go into actual detail instead of deciding it in one or two lines. This doesn't decide anything, just that TC prefers Reach of Among Thieves.
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#256 mo0ksi
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This is a fact System Wars fails to grasp. I don't know what it is with people here, if I tell someone that X is better than Y they know it's my opinion... if I say it here people think I'm trying to pass it off as fact.oldkingallant

That's the nature of a debate. People here just defend their statements with "Oh, well it's just my opinion", never actually making any decent attempts in defending whatever statements they made.

Honestly, subjectivity can only go so far. If someone said to me that Rogue Warrior was better than Reach, I would find that person to be dead wrong objectively.

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#257 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]How do you expect anyone to PROVE one's better than the other? Quality's subjective

hexashadow13

This is a fact System Wars fails to grasp. I don't know what it is with people here, if I tell someone that X is better than Y they know it's my opinion... if I say it here people think I'm trying to pass it off as fact.

Remember in high school/ college. If you were writing a persuasive essay or anything of the sort, if you said it was your opinion you'd get points off instantly. You have to pass it off as fact. It just works better in debates that way. There are multiple view points. But you try to make yours look strongest. That's what a debate is.

Remember? Bro I'm 16 I don't even have to remember I'm there. I wrote "in my opinion" in an essay once and my teacher just circled it, pointed an arrow at it and wrote "Duh." In a persuasive essay you're still using an opinion, you're not passing it off as fact, you just try to convince the other person that your opinion makes more sense than the other.

It is my opinion that in the movie Inception [spoiler] The top falls and it's all reality. [/spoiler] Does that mean that's what happens? No but I've debated it with people and I use my opinions to convince them that mine makes more sense. Still there's no way to factually prove I'm right or wrong. A debate isn't trying to convince someone that something is fact, it's trying to make them think your opinion is more logical.

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#258 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

This is a fact System Wars fails to grasp. I don't know what it is with people here, if I tell someone that X is better than Y they know it's my opinion... if I say it here people think I'm trying to pass it off as fact.mo0ksi

That's the nature of a debate. People here just defend their statements with "Oh, well it's just my opinion", never actually making any decent attempts in defending whatever statements they made.

Honestly, subjectivity can only go so far. If someone said to me that Rogue Warrior was better than Reach, I would find that person to be dead wrong objectively.

Well yes there are facts, but if someone said Rogue Warrior was better than Reach, I'd tell them they can have that opinion, but from an objective standpoint RW does so many things wrong that Reach is technically speaking the better game. I do know in a debate I expect someone to retort what I say, too many people say "Cool opinion" or something to that effect. No **** it's my opinion, this is a debate and I am going to give my opinion and why I think it's the more logical one. It seems if I say something though people get offended like I'm trying to state that my opinion is a fact and if anyone else says otherwise they're dumb because factually they're wrong. Not how it works, people need to debate or shut up.
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#259 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Here's how I would see it:

Gameplay: Halo Reach

Story: Uncharted 2

Sound Design: Halo Reach

Graphics: Uncharted 2

Longevity/Value (akin to Content): Halo Reach

Singleplayer: Halo Reach

Multiplayer: Halo Reach

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Halo Reach is the best shooter I've played all generation. You'll be hardpressed to find a game as feature packed as Halo Reach across any system. Furthermore, the only game which comes close to reaching, or being superior than, to Halo Reach in regards to Filesharing, and online intregration is Spore. And that ain't no shooter. Halo Reach's fileshare system, and intregration is Bungie.net is far beyond anything you'll ever see on consoles or PC in regards to shooters.

It's hard to critique Uncharted 2, the game has terrific pacing and refined-polished gameplay that no PS3 game I've played comes close to matching. But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear. Halo Reach is linear, but offers far more freedom in its fights -- and each fight a player moves to play again, will not be the same. You're offered far more freedom in Reach than Uncharted 2. Besides, one point that deserves pointing out is that Uncharted 2's characters are -- by far mind you -- more likable than any character in Halo Reach. You're more inclined to connect with Uncharted 2's characters more-so than Reach's.

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#260 worknow222
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Here's how I would see it:

Gameplay: Halo Reach

Story: Uncharted 2

Sound Design: Halo Reach

Graphics: Uncharted 2

Longevity/Value (akin to Content): Halo Reach

Singleplayer: Halo Reach

Multiplayer: Halo Reach

-

Halo Reach is the best shooter I've played all generation. You'll be hardpressed to find a game as feature packed as Halo Reach across any system. Furthermore, the only game which comes close to reaching, or being superior than, to Halo Reach in regards to Filesharing, and online intregration is Spore. And that ain't no shooter. Halo Reach's fileshare system, and intregration is Bungie.net is far beyond anything you'll ever see on consoles or PC in regards to shooters.

It's hard to critique Uncharted 2, the game has terrific pacing and refined-polished gameplay that no PS3 game I've played comes close to matching. But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear. Halo Reach is linear, but offers far more freedom in its fights -- and each fight a player moves to play again, will not be the same. You're offered far more freedom in Reach than Uncharted 2. Besides, one point that deserves pointing out is that Uncharted 2's characters are -- by far mind you -- more likable than any character in Halo Reach. You're more inclined to connect with Uncharted 2's characters more-so than Reach's.

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same but i got real attached to Noble team then again ive read the books and i know what the spartasn whent through to become spartans that and i read the backstories of noble so yeah to me i was morea attached to noble tan the cahractrs in uncharted 2,
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#261 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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same but i got real attached to Noble team then again ive read the books and i know what the spartasn whent through to become spartans that and i read the backstories of noble so yeah to me i was morea attached to noble tan the cahractrs in uncharted 2, worknow222
So have I, but the only character I liked in Halo Reach was Jorge. The rest I didn't like. Jorge was my favorite by far. Which could be because he was a Spartan II? Hmm.
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#262 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="worknow222"]same but i got real attached to Noble team then again ive read the books and i know what the spartasn whent through to become spartans that and i read the backstories of noble so yeah to me i was morea attached to noble tan the cahractrs in uncharted 2, Stevo_the_gamer
So have I, but the only character I liked in Halo Reach was Jorge. The rest I didn't like. Jorge was my favorite by far. Which could be because he was a Spartan II? Hmm.

You didn't like Kat? :P
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#263 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You didn't like Kat? :P

Nope, just good ol' Jorge. :)
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#264 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You didn't like Kat? :P

Nope, just good ol' Jorge. :)

You have no soul. Kat was WAY more interesting. Jorge was a big teddy bear. In the best way. :P
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#265 789shadow
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I wonder how many people in total took this thread seriously serious.

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#266 worknow222
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You didn't like Kat? :PDarkLink77
Nope, just good ol' Jorge. :)

You have no soul. Kat was WAY more interesting. Jorge was a big teddy bear. In the best way. :P

kat was great i loved emiles and his" Your scary you know that" made me feel that nobles closer than you may think

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#267 FrozenLiquid
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But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear.Stevo_the_gamer

Nah, it's actually got some pretty cool "sandbox" sectionsthat give you freedom much like a Halo game does. The train level and snow level are absolute stand outs this generation.

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#268 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear.FrozenLiquid

Nah, it's actually got some pretty cool "sandbox" sectionsthat give you freedom much like a Halo game does. The train level and snow level are absolute stand outs this generation.

I didn't see much freedom in any of those levels. :P
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

yeah I agree Uncharted 2 is inferior to Halo Reach....

ProjectNatalFan

:lol: ProjectNatalFan likes a 360 game better than a PS3 game he's probably never played? Nooooo :roll:. By the way just thought I'd say. Metacritic: 96 vs. 92. UC2's higher by a bit, but both are ridiculously highly rated AAA games. I say just play both and love both.

sorry that your beloved UC2 is inferior, and yes I played it, nice multiplayer, lol!

For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.
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#270 mariokart64fan
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oh ya like playing halo again si so much funner then playign somthing fairly new -such as uncharted

-no thanks to all halo fans -your shooter is not and will not be goldeneye

in fact wait til november 02 2010 , ,

we shall see who is better at multiplayer - sure ur got a 16 player limit we got a 8 player but who cares

goldeneye is the funner shooter

and we wont have kids having moms in the background yelling oh stop callin johnny names ,

or hearing wife and husbands break up over the mic

and our multiplayer for ps3 and wii and ds and psp is free !

yours goes up to 60 bucks a year !

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#271 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] :lol: ProjectNatalFan likes a 360 game better than a PS3 game he's probably never played? Nooooo :roll:. By the way just thought I'd say. Metacritic: 96 vs. 92. UC2's higher by a bit, but both are ridiculously highly rated AAA games. I say just play both and love both.RogueShodown

sorry that your beloved UC2 is inferior, and yes I played it, nice multiplayer, lol!

For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.

Well they're being sarcastic. And if PNF knew anything he wouldn't call it my "beloved UC2." I'm quick to point out UC2 isn't a classic or anything, and I only like it a tiny bit more than Halo: Reach. The UC2 multiplayer is solid though, it's perfectly balanced and has better maps than Reach.
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"] For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.

Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :P
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#273 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="RogueShodown"] For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.

Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :P

I'd use, fun, balanced, and good. Amazing? Nah.
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#274 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear.Stevo_the_gamer

Nah, it's actually got some pretty cool "sandbox" sectionsthat give you freedom much like a Halo game does. The train level and snow level are absolute stand outs this generation.

I didn't see much freedom in any of those levels. :P

Well in the train you could go around, through, or over the train... that's basically it but it's a bit more. I do see where the freedom in the snow levels was though.
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"] For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.Stevo_the_gamer
Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :P

Well, I like it much more than COD4 and people say how amazing the MP in that game is. Then again, COD4 came out in 2007. I just think UC2 is a lot more fun and is much more balanced(besides the stupid shotgun users).

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

But the game doesn't have much, if any, replayability where as Halo Reach does. Uncharted 2 is scripted, and linear.Stevo_the_gamer

Nah, it's actually got some pretty cool "sandbox" sectionsthat give you freedom much like a Halo game does. The train level and snow level are absolute stand outs this generation.

I didn't see much freedom in any of those levels. :P

Tsk tsk tsk. C'mon now.You can either go complete stealth or guns blazing (or a mix of both, the A.I could adaptto cater for it)in both the train and snow levels. I mean, the reason the platforming sections felt so restricted was simply because the combat scenarios were just awesome.

I mean, people call Halosemi-linear because you got a massive level, vehicles, and a choice of guns. But you still got to complete objectives in order. Likewise, Uncharted 2 may have a linear story, but there was a myriad of ways you could approach more than a goodnumber of the objectives.

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The 9.5 (boring as hell score) exclusive of the 360 and the PS3, in a faceoff. Right here. Right now. inb4differentgenresexcuse. Lets do this. Time to rock and roll baby 8)

Graphics: Uncharted 2 - If I didn't give UC2 this one, I'd probably get the "omg ur a troll/fanboy/fakeboy" thrown at me. I probably still will, but not quite as much. So let's go to what matters.

Story: Halo Reach - While neither is creative, let's get real here, people never watched Indiana Jones for the story it tells, and considering UC2 is in the same vein, some logic applies. Halo Reach had people getting banned for spoilers. Needless to say, the story was a way bigger focus in Reach and as such, it comes out the winner.

Gameplay: Halo Reach - Uncharted 2 is mostly a linear sequence of events that sometimes thinks its Tomb Raider and other times thinks its Gears of War. Fun to watch, but can't stand toe to toe with the extremely refined gameplay of Halo Reach. UC2's polish is in looks and coding (i.e. few to no glitches), Reach's polish is in the gameplay, the refinement of how you play the game and what happens in it.

Music: Halo Reach - This honestly doesn't even need an explanation.

Content: Halo: Reach - UC2 has single player and a multiplayer with a few modes as well as a co-op mode that's kind of just... there. Reach has the singla player campaign, co-op that was never an afterthought, Firefight, Forge, dozens of multiplayer modes, Theater, etc. The overwhelming amount of content to Halo Reach has no equal in UC2. This isn't even up for debate.

So, its time to place the crown. Who gets it?

Overall Winner: Halo: Reach

By a landslide too. There's little that Uncharted 2 can stand toe to toe with Reach in, beyond the graphics. Add into that the fact UC2 is largely forgotten by now while Reach will still be played actively for years to come.

Don't worry though, there's still MGS4. Which isn't as good as SMG2. Can't catch a break eh guys :)

Skittles_McGee

Is this ment to be like an Official thing now?

Well..you see with 105 review on meta + any other average + all the awards you will see that UC2 takes the cake.

Meta: UC2-96,105 reviews, Halo:Reach - 92, 87 reviews.

olol.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="RogueShodown"] For once I agree with you. The MP in UC2 is amazing.RogueShodown

Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :P

Well, I like it much more than COD4 and people say how amazing the MP in that game is. Then again, COD4 came out in 2007. I just think UC2 is a lot more fun and is much more balanced(besides the stupid shotgun users).

I actually found the shotgun to be the most worthless gun in the multiplayer. lol :P

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#279 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :PStevo_the_gamer

Well, I like it much more than COD4 and people say how amazing the MP in that game is. Then again, COD4 came out in 2007. I just think UC2 is a lot more fun and is much more balanced(besides the stupid shotgun users).

I actually found the shotgun to be the most worthless gun in the multiplayer. lol :P

I blew many faces off with that gun, I pretty much ran around blind firing with it, good times, nothing beats the Hammer though.
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#280 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"] I blew many faces off with that gun, I pretty much ran around blind firing with it, good times, nothing beats the Hammer though.

I'm partial to the Pistole, for some reason, I just absolutely fell in love with that old-ass pistol.
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#281 IndianaPwns39
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Well here you go, an essay rebuttal. Instead of just saying "It's my opinion".

Graphics - Uncharted 2. I agree with you.

Story - Unchated 2. Actually, I watch Indiana Jones for the story. That's so cool to me: discovering these ancient artifacts that house some sort of mystical power. I love that. Plus, the character arcs in Uncharted 2 were fantastic and conflicted. It wasn't the most original thing in the world, but it felt real. With fantastic acting from everyone, a central antagonist that was menacing on screen, and segments that pulled emotion out of players like "Keep Moving" it was all amazing! I liked the personality of the characters, such as when Chloe and Drake joke with each other. Little things like "There's a guy above you. There's a guy below you" made me chuckle. Halo's extended story is pretty good. I love the books. But Reach was one huge disappointment. Repetitive level design and bland characters that became a contest of "who's going to die next" instead of actual characters. It was boring to me, and was one of the biggest disappointments in gaming this year.

Gameplay - Um. Uncharted. I'll take a third person cover based system with heavy emphasis on platforming over generic FPS anyday. I love the Halo franchise, but it's shooting mechanics have always been mediocre compared to other games long before it. Uncharted 2 did a fantastic job spicing things up and varying the gameplay. Such as the fight sequence where you hang off a street sign and shoot incoming enemies. Unique little touches pushed that forward. Plus, there were enough spots in the single player campaign alone, such as jumping out of a falling building into another one, that were just too awesome and memorable. And honestly, Halo has always been a linear franchise I don't understand what you mean. The path is just large, but there's still always a single destination. It doesn't really let you choose what to do, just what you're going to shoot people with. Not saying Uncharted 2 isn't linear, but saying Halo isn't is a false claim. But the choices you get to make in Halo (like what weapons to take along, which spot to take cover) exist in Uncharted 2. There are very large segments in that game where you can go about killing everyone the way you want to.

Music - Actually, this does need explanation. My vote goes to Uncharted 2. Halo's music has been unrivaled for a very long time and without a doubt, Martin O' Donnell is an excellent composer. However, most of Reach's music is recycled from previous games, and doesn't do too much in the ways of variation. It's either sweaping orchestra pieces or a techno/rock beat, all of which we've heard before. The few new tracks found in Reach are boring and seemingly very uninspired pieces of work. Not only that, but there are glaring ommitions from best Halo titles that are never quite met in Reach. There's never a song in Reach that quite hits the sheer intensity or vibe that "Behold a Pale Horse" did for Halo 3. Where O' Donnell made new music for ODST that fit the mood perfectly, he faulters in Reach with songs that sound very much like "Halo Lite" and never actually hit the player with a sense of epicness. Conversely, Greg Edmonson, teamed with Skywalker Studios, put forth a varied and fun sound for Uncharted 2. There are several songs that define the action of the game, others that define the wonder of finding an ancient relic and discovering something new, even vibes that would seemlessly fit into Firefly (Which Edmonson also composed) that are just fun to listen to. The album ranges in musical styles, and Edmonson changed typical Orchestra songs for more foreign unique sounds, bringing in several instruments not commonly heard for more of the mellow tracks. Very talented musicians the both of them, but I would like to see O' Donnell tackle something other than Halo so we can see what else he's capable of. His Reach OST sounded very much like Stephen Rippy's boring and uninspired Halo Wars Soundtrack.

Content - Yeah Halo Reach is pretty much untouchable in that department when it comes to console gaming. Bungie truly loves there fans, and you can tell with the amount of content they crammed into Reach. It's going to be sad to see them depart from the franchise, but like O' Donnell with the music, it will be exciting to see what they can do next considering Halo has been their only franchise for the last 10 years. Although it is worth mentioning, Uncharted 2 does offer a good amount of content. Such as unlockable skins, various gameplay modes (such as zero gravity), and the choice to use whatever weapon you want throughout the duration of the game.

Overall - Uncharted 2

Really though, they're both great games. I don't see why we need to compare the two when they're completely different. Considering Bungie and Naughty Dog get along and have helped each other, I see little reason why the fans need to start things like this.

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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Amazing is not a word I would use to describe it's multiplayer. :PStevo_the_gamer

Well, I like it much more than COD4 and people say how amazing the MP in that game is. Then again, COD4 came out in 2007. I just think UC2 is a lot more fun and is much more balanced(besides the stupid shotgun users).

I actually found the shotgun to be the most worthless gun in the multiplayer. lol :P

I don't know if ND changed the damage on it since launch, but when I played it, people would come around corners or leap off buildings and shoot you without aiming. You'd be able to easily chains kills while running away from people because you wouldn't have to aim with it. You'd just have to make sure the enemy is in the center of the screen and shoot. If you're not cheap like that, then it is a fair fight.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] I blew many faces off with that gun, I pretty much ran around blind firing with it, good times, nothing beats the Hammer though.

I'm partial to the Pistole, for some reason, I just absolutely fell in love with that old-ass pistol.

This and the Hammer.
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#285 EdenProxy
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yeah I agree Uncharted 2 is inferior to Halo Reach....

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I disagree. Uncharted2 is superior to reach
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] I blew many faces off with that gun, I pretty much ran around blind firing with it, good times, nothing beats the Hammer though.oldkingallant
I'm partial to the Pistole, for some reason, I just absolutely fell in love with that old-ass pistol.

This and the Hammer.

Oh, and people would also use the Pistole the same way as they did the shotgun. The only difference was that it took 2 shots to get a kill instead of one. I don't if they changed it since then as I don't have the game. I'll get the GOTY edition sooner or later.

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The only reason why Reach will be played "for years to come" is because it's the last Halo game made by Bungie.

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#288 Lozza5k
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Aren't they different types of games?

Uncharted 2 is a Third person shooter/ platformer

Halo Reach is a First person shooter

A little bit hard to compare me thinks :D

Uncharted 2 is amazing though and although I haven't got an xbox what I've heard from my friends is that its pretty awesome aswell.

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I think they are pretty equal, but Uncharted is more of a unique game.

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The only reason why Reach will be played "for years to come" is because it's the last Halo game made by Bungie.

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You're right! Because it has nothing to do with the game being of high quality, and having the tools to create long-lasting experiences... it's everything to do with the fact that a specific company made it, and that reason alone. Why didn't I think of this before... Due note that was sarcasm. :P
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Graphics - Uncharted 2 no doubt

Story - Uncharted 2 for sure, I always thought halo's story was pretty meh (loved the campaigns though, especially CE).

Gameplay - Tie, absolute tie, maybe if they were both third person or both first person then I might be able to choose between them, but both deliver equally in this department I think.

Music - Tie, maybe leaning towards Halo's music more, but Uncharted's music is quite amazing as well.

Content - Reach, great single player, amazing multiplayer, forge world, firefight, etc. Uncharted 2 has Amazing single player, and pretty amazing multiplayer. But you gotta remember Reach is bungies 5th Halo game where Uncharted 2 is only the second.

Verdict - Tie, but If I absolutely had to choose, Uncharted 2

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Actually, no, nobody had to do that.
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Both games lack melting wax vehicles.

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Both games lack melting wax vehicles.

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Hopefully, LBP2 will have this feature.
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[QUOTE="EdenProxy"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

yeah I agree Uncharted 2 is inferior to Halo Reach....

I disagree. Uncharted2 is superior to reach

This arguements goin places.
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I think they are pretty equal, but Uncharted is more of a unique game.

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No...not really.
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#297 Cloud567kar
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The only reason why Reach will be played "for years to come" is because it's the last Halo game made by Bungie.

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Lol no, because its a good game.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

I think they are pretty equal, but Uncharted is more of a unique game.

No...not really.

First I was like :| Then I :lol: 'd
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Well here you go, an essay rebuttal. Instead of just saying "It's my opinion".

Graphics - Uncharted 2. I agree with you.

Story - Unchated 2. Actually, I watch Indiana Jones for the story. That's so cool to me: discovering these ancient artifacts that house some sort of mystical power. I love that. Plus, the character arcs in Uncharted 2 were fantastic and conflicted. It wasn't the most original thing in the world, but it felt real. With fantastic acting from everyone, a central antagonist that was menacing on screen, and segments that pulled emotion out of players like "Keep Moving" it was all amazing! I liked the personality of the characters, such as when Chloe and Drake joke with each other. Little things like "There's a guy above you. There's a guy below you" made me chuckle. Halo's extended story is pretty good. I love the books. But Reach was one huge disappointment. Repetitive level design and bland characters that became a contest of "who's going to die next" instead of actual characters. It was boring to me, and was one of the biggest disappointments in gaming this year.

Gameplay - Um. Uncharted. I'll take a third person cover based system with heavy emphasis on platforming over generic FPS anyday. I love the Halo franchise, but it's shooting mechanics have always been mediocre compared to other games long before it. Uncharted 2 did a fantastic job spicing things up and varying the gameplay. Such as the fight sequence where you hang off a street sign and shoot incoming enemies. Unique little touches pushed that forward. Plus, there were enough spots in the single player campaign alone, such as jumping out of a falling building into another one, that were just too awesome and memorable. And honestly, Halo has always been a linear franchise I don't understand what you mean. The path is just large, but there's still always a single destination. It doesn't really let you choose what to do, just what you're going to shoot people with. Not saying Uncharted 2 isn't linear, but saying Halo isn't is a false claim. But the choices you get to make in Halo (like what weapons to take along, which spot to take cover) exist in Uncharted 2. There are very large segments in that game where you can go about killing everyone the way you want to.

Music - Actually, this does need explanation. My vote goes to Uncharted 2. Halo's music has been unrivaled for a very long time and without a doubt, Martin O' Donnell is an excellent composer. However, most of Reach's music is recycled from previous games, and doesn't do too much in the ways of variation. It's either sweaping orchestra pieces or a techno/rock beat, all of which we've heard before. The few new tracks found in Reach are boring and seemingly very uninspired pieces of work. Not only that, but there are glaring ommitions from best Halo titles that are never quite met in Reach. There's never a song in Reach that quite hits the sheer intensity or vibe that "Behold a Pale Horse" did for Halo 3. Where O' Donnell made new music for ODST that fit the mood perfectly, he faulters in Reach with songs that sound very much like "Halo Lite" and never actually hit the player with a sense of epicness. Conversely, Greg Edmonson, teamed with Skywalker Studios, put forth a varied and fun sound for Uncharted 2. There are several songs that define the action of the game, others that define the wonder of finding an ancient relic and discovering something new, even vibes that would seemlessly fit into Firefly (Which Edmonson also composed) that are just fun to listen to. The album ranges in musical styles, and Edmonson changed typical Orchestra songs for more foreign unique sounds, bringing in several instruments not commonly heard for more of the mellow tracks. Very talented musicians the both of them, but I would like to see O' Donnell tackle something other than Halo so we can see what else he's capable of. His Reach OST sounded very much like Stephen Rippy's boring and uninspired Halo Wars Soundtrack.

Content - Yeah Halo Reach is pretty much untouchable in that department when it comes to console gaming. Bungie truly loves there fans, and you can tell with the amount of content they crammed into Reach. It's going to be sad to see them depart from the franchise, but like O' Donnell with the music, it will be exciting to see what they can do next considering Halo has been their only franchise for the last 10 years. Although it is worth mentioning, Uncharted 2 does offer a good amount of content. Such as unlockable skins, various gameplay modes (such as zero gravity), and the choice to use whatever weapon you want throughout the duration of the game.

Overall - Uncharted 2

Really though, they're both great games. I don't see why we need to compare the two when they're completely different. Considering Bungie and Naughty Dog get along and have helped each other, I see little reason why the fans need to start things like this.

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In short, you love Uncharted 2. Which is unfortunate, Reach is obviously the better game :(
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#300 Skittles_McGee
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 Picture is relevant