Halo reach gameplay vid shows graphics not as good as originally shown?!

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#1 Kennysolidsnake
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I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

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#2 SolidTy
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It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

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This might be the first Halo game I like. And the graphics are fine fanboys always overexaggeratethings.

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"Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2." ...wait what?
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Yawn its multiplayer. They said they plan on getting it up to single player level quality by release. Personally i don't care. I don't play Halo for those reasons anyway.
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#6 Gxgear
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Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2.

Kennysolidsnake

Slap Halo on a game and it will sell.

Neither of those 3 games were innonative, just quality games.

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Yeah we definately need a sticky.
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#8 Kennysolidsnake
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It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

SolidTy

Well as i said, Reach looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great. And if thats true about Reach not looking as good as the trailer that pretty much confirms the 360 is maxed out. I mean if MS was going to have a game to really push the limits of the hardware it would be Halo

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#9 Duckyindiana
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There is a vid doc out that shows the single player game and it looks great as for the multiplayer i think this is the 1st we have seen any proper footage so not sure where you get the downgrade nonsense from being the mp in halo has always looked worse than the single player game.

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#10 chikenfriedrice
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it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

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#11 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

Kennysolidsnake

Well as i said, Reach looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great. And if thats true about Reach not looking as good as the trailer that pretty much confirms the 360 is maxed out. I mean if MS was going to have a game to really push the limits of the hardware it would be Halo

Sigh......

I don't care if this game looks good or not, but how can you judge the end product when it is at ALPHA stage, and in the process of being polished (like Bungie said).

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#12 SpinoRaptor24
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It looks fine. You have to understand that this is the MP, so of course it won't look as good as the campaign.

Believe it or not, but some people don't mind having visuals that aren't up there with Crysis *gasp* I know right? Why bother playing a game that doesn't look better than real life?

Oh and you never really responded to that other thread you made, so your credibility now sits at a comfortable zero.

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I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

Kennysolidsnake
That was beta multiplayer footage. And I wouldn't exactly be calling MW2 or Killzone 2 "innovative" either
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#14 Kennysolidsnake
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There is a vid doc out that shows the single player game and it looks great as for the multiplayer i think this is the 1st we have seen any proper footage so not sure where you get the downgrade nonsense from being the mp in halo has always looked worse the the single player game.Duckyindiana
you see, its things like these double standards that irks me.. Halo and bungie get so many free passes its not even funny. When people bring up the outdated graphics engine fanboys say "but its ok, bungie and halo have never been known for its graphics" and when someone brings up the meh story fanboys say "who cares, Halo is known for its great MP" but yet the same fanboys blast Killzone for its story or MW for its graphics. Halo is one of the biggest games in history from a company that has more money than god, the least bungie and MS could do for its fans is go all out and really make something special for their fans, instead they use the same graphics engine, same sound engine and virtually the same MP.. more Devs should take note from Sony, you can tell with GOW3 that the devs have a passion for really pushing the envelope on creating something special unlike anything else. Halo gets way too many free passes

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#15 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

Kennysolidsnake

Well as i said, 360 looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great.

Yeah, but Halo 3 sold gobs and gobs of copies, and it wasn't that great looking. I mean, I know the fanboy's tried to play it off, but that was a shiny Halo 2, feature rich of course.

I think Halo fans have accepted Halo isn't the prettiest, so if REACH is as feature rich as Halo 3, but looks better, they should be very happy, and it will sell gobs and gobs of copies like Halo 3 did.

As far as looks, I don't think it's going to blow away anyone (especially those with both consoles), but Reach should have a couple of nice shiny moments here and there...especially for the fans of the series. Those guys will be very, very pleased at some of the new stuff/new graphical effects they see in Reach.

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27209624&page=0

Retreat from the epic fail thread that fast?

Cow today? That makes it two straight.

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#17 Kennysolidsnake
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

skinny_man_69
That was beta multiplayer footage. And I wouldn't exactly be calling MW2 or Killzone 2 "innovative" either

Well Halo 3 MP looked identical to its beta so im not expecting anything different from reach. I mean the game looks fun for 360 standards but im sorry, it just pales in comparison when comparing the quality to PS3 exclusives
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

Kennysolidsnake

Well as i said, Reach looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great. And if thats true about Reach not looking as good as the trailer that pretty much confirms the 360 is maxed out. I mean if MS was going to have a game to really push the limits of the hardware it would be Halo

A. Its technically still in its Alpha stage (and regardless the animation and textures are much better already) B. Its Multiplayer C. there was WAY more action/stuff going on in that video then anything I've seen in Halo 3. Little Early to judge ya think? Lit
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Who cares. This was the first Halo that caught my interest, which means bungie is doing their job wonderfully.

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#20 mitu123
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Still in alpha stage, even listed on the bottom right of the vid.

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#21 iammason
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Maybe if you open your eyes and maybe wipe your monitor, you will notice something in the bottom right corner scribbled there. REACH_ALPHA [/THREAD]
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#22 Kennysolidsnake
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

Innovazero2000

Well as i said, Reach looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great. And if thats true about Reach not looking as good as the trailer that pretty much confirms the 360 is maxed out. I mean if MS was going to have a game to really push the limits of the hardware it would be Halo

A. Its technically still in its Alpha stage (and regardless the animation and textures are much better already) B. Its Multiplayer C. there was WAY more action/stuff going on in that video then anything I've seen in Halo 3. Little Early to judge ya think? Lit

How "is there way more stuff going on screen at once than previous halos" its MP, by the looks of the trailer it had the same exact vehicles and samey weapons only difference was jetpacks.. Kind of cool i guess but those where in Warhawk so nothing entirely new
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#23 Kennysolidsnake
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[QUOTE="iammason"]Maybe if you open your eyes and maybe wipe your monitor, you will notice something in the bottom right corner scribbled there. REACH_ALPHA [/THREAD]

well its bungie.. Halo 3 final product looked identical to the beta, so why should i think this will be any different? and while im at it, name one game this gen that has lookded significantly different graphics wise from the Beta.. Bad company 2 looks just like the beta, Uncharted 2 still looks just like the beta, Halo 3 and the beta looked exactly the same
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#24 Kennysolidsnake
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Still in alpha stage, even listed on the bottom right of the vid.

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This "alpha" and "beta" stuff is just PR nonsense that devs use as excuse to buy them more time.. Name one single game this gen that looked noticably different from the final version and the beta? Killzone 2, U2, Bad comapny 2, Halo 3 all looked identical to how the beta looked when the final version came out.
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so...hows bf:bc2 treating you?

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I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

Kennysolidsnake

First of all, It's the ALPHA build, second of all, It looks a lot better than Halo 3 already.

How do you know it hasn't innovated at all? Have you played it?

Them copying Infinity Ward or some other developer, is NOT innovating. I'm actually very happy they didn't copy anyone else (looks like they didn't) and continued improving the forumla they already had. The forumula that made Halo 3's multiplayer my favorite multiplayer game.

The graphics looks amazing and it sounds great.

P.S. It will outscore and outsell Killzone 2(system wars for ya ;)).

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#27 SpinoRaptor24
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Are you basing this off a youtube video?

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How "is there way more stuff going on screen at once than previous halos" its MP, by the looks of the trailer it had the same exact vehicles and samey weapons only difference was jetpacks.. Kind of cool i guess but those where in Warhawk so nothing entirely newKennysolidsnake
I said it to you once and I will say it again. OPEN YOUR EYES. Just jetpacks? PLEASE! There was a lot more going on than you seem to remember.Your just another average Halo basher.
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#29 Duckyindiana
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Ok lets do this again the new vid is from the multiplayer before that all we have seen is the single player so how are the graphics not as good as first shown?? The sp and mp in halo have always looked different so i don't see the problem.
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#30 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Still in alpha stage, even listed on the bottom right of the vid.

Kennysolidsnake

This "alpha" and "beta" stuff is just PR nonsense that devs use as excuse to buy them more time.. Name one single game this gen that looked noticably different from the final version and the beta? Killzone 2, U2, Bad comapny 2, Halo 3 all looked identical to how the beta looked when the final version came out.

Have you seen Killzone 2 in alpha stage in 2007? It looked way worse than the final build and even the beta looked better. BTW, that Bad Company 2 demo was a old build and still looked better in the final game and Halo 3 still look beta, the beta looked like Halo 2.

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#31 gamecubepad
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Wow, I didn't expect this from you Kenny.:P

You know Reach is up there with the best looking games, that's why you made this thread. Well, aside from the usual reason. Anyway, this thread is whopping load of DC. How original.

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[QUOTE="iammason"]Maybe if you open your eyes and maybe wipe your monitor, you will notice something in the bottom right corner scribbled there. REACH_ALPHA [/THREAD]Kennysolidsnake
well its bungie.. Halo 3 final product looked identical to the beta, so why should i think this will be any different? and while im at it, name one game this gen that has lookded significantly different graphics wise from the Beta.. Bad company 2 looks just like the beta, Uncharted 2 still looks just like the beta, Halo 3 and the beta looked exactly the same

Beta? The video is in ALPHA and your talking about games in their beta stages....
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I was irritated with HonkyTonk's thread, but this thread ironically seems like the perfect revenge. :twisted:
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Ok lets do this again the new vid is from the multiplayer before that all we have seen is the single player so how are the graphics not as good as first shown?? The sp and mp in halo have always looked different so i don't see the problem.Duckyindiana
I was gonna mention this as well, but I figured most people knew this. And not just Halo either, pretty much every game that has multiplayer has a prettier single player. Ghost Recon was really bad for that.
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#35 ImageChef
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Are people honestly saying this looks just like Halo 3? First off....are people blind? Secondly, if this looks just like Halo 3, and Halo 3 looked just like Halo 2, then this looks just like Halo 2? Are we honestly saying this looks not up to par with this generations standards? lol. This game is high on the scale.
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Tune in next week when kenny proclaims it to be the best looking game ever created.
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#37 macs77
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I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

Kennysolidsnake

Every single person who has a Xbox 360 has most likely had the change to buy a PS3. Guess why we haven't ? WE DON"T WANT ONE. I will buy Halo Reach and play it's multi-player for years to come. Can't say the same for Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Gears of War or any other game (maybe Lost Planet 2).

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#38 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Ok lets do this again the new vid is from the multiplayer before that all we have seen is the single player so how are the graphics not as good as first shown?? The sp and mp in halo have always looked different so i don't see the problem.iammason
I was gonna mention this as well, but I figured most people knew this. And not just Halo either, pretty much every game that has multiplayer has a prettier single player. Ghost Recon was really bad for that.

Yep, I remember GRAW 1, the single player looked amazing for it's time while the multiplayer looked a bit last gen in the textures, some at least.

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#39 bigboss5ak
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i mean yea it looks fun .

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Isnt that what mostly counts?? Theres alot of shooters out there that looks great graphically but isnt fun at all.
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#40 macs77
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[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Well as i said, Reach looks good for 360 standards but when compared to PS3 exclusives it just pales in comparison, i know that sounds very fanboyish but im sorry its just the truth. but yea, for 360 standards it looks great. And if thats true about Reach not looking as good as the trailer that pretty much confirms the 360 is maxed out. I mean if MS was going to have a game to really push the limits of the hardware it would be Halo

Kennysolidsnake

A. Its technically still in its Alpha stage (and regardless the animation and textures are much better already) B. Its Multiplayer C. there was WAY more action/stuff going on in that video then anything I've seen in Halo 3. Little Early to judge ya think? Lit

How "is there way more stuff going on screen at once than previous halos" its MP, by the looks of the trailer it had the same exact vehicles and samey weapons only difference was jetpacks.. Kind of cool i guess but those where in Warhawk so nothing entirely new

Alright, you've just been pronounced FAN BOY. There was at least 5 new weapons in there. Care to correct what you said ?

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#41 deathtarget04
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Still looks pretty good to me.

And i dont care about graphics either....

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OMG, i swear the post count 5 mins ago was 1 (TC) , why do lemmings care to discuss something they ,as they claim, dun care about???

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#43 ZoomZoom2490
Member since 2008 • 3943 Posts

arent they using the same engine from halo3 but souped up a bit?

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#44 MC3887
Member since 2009 • 1507 Posts

[QUOTE="iammason"]Maybe if you open your eyes and maybe wipe your monitor, you will notice something in the bottom right corner scribbled there. REACH_ALPHA [/THREAD]Kennysolidsnake
well its bungie.. Halo 3 final product looked identical to the beta, so why should i think this will be any different? and while im at it, name one game this gen that has lookded significantly different graphics wise from the Beta.. Bad company 2 looks just like the beta, Uncharted 2 still looks just like the beta, Halo 3 and the beta looked exactly the same

No, Halo 3 added little things and effects from beta to final. Also, that was MP footage, as well as the fact that did you see the glimpse of the nicly decorated grassy field, that looked great. Might be that some maps look better than others or they are not finished polishing other maps.

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#45 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

macs77

Every single person who has a Xbox 360 has most likely had the change to buy a PS3. Guess why we haven't ? WE DON"T WANT ONE. I will buy Halo Reach and play it's multi-player for years to come. Can't say the same for Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Gears of War or any other game (maybe Lost Planet 2).

A lot of 360 owners are buying PS3s
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#47 iammason
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[QUOTE="2mrw"]

OMG, i swear the post count 5 mins ago was 1 (TC) , why do lemmings care to discuss something they ,as they claim, dun care about???

Why does anyone discuss half the crap posted in general? Because it`s system wars!!!
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#48 SpiritOfFire117
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OMG, i swear the post count 5 mins ago was 1 (TC) , why do lemmings care to discuss something they ,as they claim, dun care about?

2mrw

Perhaps because some people don't share the same views?

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#49 93soccer
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Yeayyyy!! Another thread where Kenny's gonna get owned! Remember this
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#50 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

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I think it's fair to wait and see, but I also think it's fair that 360 owners should expect Halo to look better than KZ2. Especially since KZ2 is over a year old now and becauseMS was saying when KZ2 released they had future games that would be better.