Halo reach gameplay vid shows graphics not as good as originally shown?!

People need tor realize that just because somethings in alpha doesnt mean it will look better later on. Halo 3 beta looked EXACTLY the same as the retail version. Ive been saying this countless times. Halo Reach does not look significantly better than 3. It loos almost exactly the same has Halo 3. Bungie barely made any improvemetns to the engine. They merely optomized it. But let me remind you that just because something doesnt look extremly realistic doesnt mean it wont be fun. The game itself looks fun, but Bungie lied when they siad they would be make Halo Reach look completely different and better. You guys need to stop being in denial deal with it. telling yourself that the game will look better wont change anything.

People need tor realize that just because somethings in alpha doesnt mean it will look better later on. Halo 3 beta looked EXACTLY the same as the retail version. Ive been saying this countless times. Halo Reach does not look significantly better than 3. It loos almost exactly the same has Halo 3. Bungie barely made any improvemetns to the engine. They merely optomized it. But let me remind you that just because something doesnt look extremly realistic doesnt mean it wont be fun. The game itself looks fun, but Bungie lied when they siad they would be make Halo Reach look completely different and better. You guys need to stop being in denial deal with it. telling yourself that the game will look better wont change anything.

painguy1

Err...Halo 3 actually did look better than its beta. I just have to look towards machinimas as an example. I noticed that machinima utilizing Halo 3 itself looked better than machinimas using the beta.

i will be buying this game ,but i gotta say the graphics just suck nothing new map look like waste lands boring and dull.

Looking at the bottom right, it says "Alpha". ;) We know how Halo 3 turned out with those "alpha" video though.

EDIT: Graphically, I think it looks really nice, btw. Not that big of a jump from Halo 3, but the improved lighting is very much noticeable. Gameplay wise......CAN'T WAIT!

it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

chikenfriedrice

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

EmperorSupreme

I think it's fair to wait and see, but I also think it's fair that 360 owners should expect Halo to look better than KZ2. Especially since KZ2 is over a year old now and becauseMS was saying when KZ2 released they had future games that would be better.

Alan wake?

Even so, MP graphics generally are downgraded so that they can support the multiple players. yoshi_64

arent they using the same engine from halo3 but souped up a bit?

ZoomZoom2490

People need tor realize that just because somethings in alpha doesnt mean it will look better later on. Halo 3 beta looked EXACTLY the same as the retail version. Ive been saying this countless times. Halo Reach does not look significantly better than 3. It loos almost exactly the same has Halo 3. Bungie barely made any improvemetns to the engine. They merely optomized it. But let me remind you that just because something doesnt look extremly realistic doesnt mean it wont be fun. The game itself looks fun, but Bungie lied when they siad they would be make Halo Reach look completely different and better. You guys need to stop being in denial deal with it. telling yourself that the game will look better wont change anything.

painguy1

Halo:reach looks way better, the vidoc and this proves it. Also, adding MUCH more AI and MUCH larger maps are just a mere "optimization". Please, halo:reach is doing things many games dream of.

I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

Kennysolidsnake

Anithing els you like to say?

you know whats funny You PS3 lovers like to compare this crap to Crysis

CRYSIS MultyPlayer on LOW

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

SolidTy

Anithing els you like to say?you know whats funny You PS3 lovers like to compare this crap to Crysis CRYSIS MultyPlayer on LOW marcos27pr

It's the Alpha version, and the game looks fine. I expect Bungie to polish it up a bit personally.

Huge levels, a bunch of players, great environments, new weapons, lots of action, tons of particles, crazy physics, great gameplay, sweet graphics, Yea this game looks great. I think Bungie will be able to match the quality originally seen. We'll see when the full game hits.

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]Anithing els you like to say?you know whats funny You PS3 lovers like to compare this crap to Crysis CRYSIS MultyPlayer on LOW FIipMode

1) because you PS3 fans have a post PER DAY of crysis vs PS3

2) This is not a bad Screen its a Multiplayer Pic of Uncharted WE ARE TALKING ABUT HALO REACH MULTIPLAYER

if you ask me Halo Reach Multiplayer Alpha looks way better then this Cant wait to see Story mode

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="marcos27pr"]Anithing els you like to say?you know whats funny You PS3 lovers like to compare this crap to Crysis CRYSIS MultyPlayer on LOW marcos27pr

1) because you PS3 fans have a post PER DAY of crysis vs PS3

2) This is not a bad Screen its a Multiplayer Pic of Uncharted WE ARE TALKING ABUT HALO REACH MULTIPLAYER

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if you ask me Halo Reach Multiplayer Alpha looks way better then this Cant wait to see Story mode

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] Any reason your bringing Crysis into this? Wasn't mentioned in the OP, and why did you use bad screens of both U2 and KZ2?After_Math

1) because you PS3 fans have a post PER DAY of crysis vs PS3

2) This is not a bad Screen its a Multiplayer Pic of Uncharted WE ARE TALKING ABUT HALO REACH MULTIPLAYER

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if you ask me Halo Reach Multiplayer Alpha looks way better then this Cant wait to see Story mode

If am correct WHAT THEY ACTUALY SAY WAS that the Story character can be trasfer to MP mode meaning what ever you edit abut your character in story

The game havea money/ Rank system thos levels will trasfer

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="marcos27pr"]Anithing els you like to say?you know whats funny You PS3 lovers like to compare this crap to Crysis CRYSIS MultyPlayer on LOW marcos27pr

1) because you PS3 fans have a post PER DAY of crysis vs PS3

2) This is not a bad Screen its a Multiplayer Pic of Uncharted WE ARE TALKING ABUT HALO REACH MULTIPLAYER

if you ask me Halo Reach Multiplayer Alpha looks way better then this Cant wait to see Story mode

1. No not really, and still that's not what this thread is about.

2. That wasn't a multiplayer pic of Killzone 2 though, still you went out of your way to find a bad pic. This is more what the multiplayer of uncharted 2 looks like, not what you posted.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

DeadMagazines

That's what I'm talking about. ;)

I was reasoning with Kenny also.

you can say what you want about the unfinished graphics, but no halo 1/2/3 gamer cares. The gameplay is what runs the show. You can use the standard and dumb excuse that everything that is halo will sell. Yea there are some games like halo wars and odst that werent complete games, but they definitely werent bad. This is the 4th generation game of the bungie's halo franchise, and all 3 games were quality games that deserved their respected score. The competitive and exciting gameplay is here, and improved upon in ways that looks like halo reach will once again run the sales and review charts this fall. Endless discussions about stupid graphical differences between trailes are pointless, this game will be good, in my and a lot of people their opinions.

Kenny why dont you just admit your 100% PS3 fanboy, and 0% 360 Fanboy.

Kenny why dont you just admit your 100% PS3 fanboy, and 0% 360 Fanboy.

BadNewsBen

Another thread where Kenny self owns himself. Never too many of these.

Well, Halo was never about graphics anyway. But still, aestetically speaking, it is an UGLY game.

Well, Halo was never about graphics anyway. But still, aestetically speaking, it is an UGLY game.

Orchid87

Does anyone remember vidoc #1, what we say here and from vidoc #1 is far from ugly

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I dont know if its because the graphics will be downgraded for the MP, but after seeing the new gameplay for reach MP it literally looks like Halo 3 with jetpacks and uppercuts, i mean yea it looks fun but doesnt look near as good or groundbreaking as fanboys are making it out to be. It still looks stuck in 2007 in terms of FPS gameplay..

Halo reach is very lucky to be a Halo title because if the same exact game came out today but with a different name, it would get bashed into obvlivion for not beeing innovative when compared to other shooters like Bad company 2, MW2 or Killzone 2. The vidoc showed amazing graphics but this new vid doesnt look much different from Halo 3 at all in terms of graphics and even the sound effects are kind of meh.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but i really think people are hyping this game so much because the 360 really doesnt have a game worth hyping and Halo reach while it doesnt look that impressive is atleast something for fanboys to hype.

Kennysolidsnake

Ok thats just really annoying. YOU JUST PROVED YOUR A FANBOY! 'comparing to quality ps3 titles' why cant we like every console?

[QUOTE="BadNewsBen"]

Kenny why dont you just admit your 100% PS3 fanboy, and 0% 360 Fanboy.

mtradr43

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Well, Halo was never about graphics anyway. But still, aestetically speaking, it is an UGLY game.

MC3887

Does anyone remember vidoc #1, what we say here and from vidoc #1 is far from ugly

It is ugly from the artistical standpoint. I jusc don't get how people still get excited with cartooney sci-fi. Isn't that something we should have left in childhood?

Kenny why dont you just admit your 100% PS3 fanboy, and 0% 360 Fanboy.

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

SolidTy

That's what I'm talking about. ;)

I was reasoning with Kenny also.

Reasoning with a fakeboy?! SolidTy, I'm kinda disappointed.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

Kennysolidsnake

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

SolidTy

Some further ellaboration to what SolidTy is talking about:

"This trailer absolutely represents our visual bar for the final game and is near identical to what you'll see next Fall. The single biggest difference between this trailer and the final game will be the extra generous amount of anti-aliasing (the smoothing of "jaggies" or edges of pixels) present in what you're watching right now but rest assured that Reach will be significantly improved in this department compared to Halo 3. (The extreme "AA" in the trailer was due to the "frame dump" mentioned above.)" - Bungie

Rest assured, the final game will look damn near identical to the VGA awards trailer.

I would really like to know the actual age of Kenny, it wouldn't be surprising if he's still a junior in highschool.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Well, Halo was never about graphics anyway. But still, aestetically speaking, it is an UGLY game.

Orchid87

Does anyone remember vidoc #1, what we say here and from vidoc #1 is far from ugly

It is ugly from the artistical standpoint. I jusc don't get how people still get excited with cartooney sci-fi. Isn't that something we should have left in childhood?

It was already revealed that when Halo Reach was originally shown, that trailer was spruced up and doctored a bit. The game won't look as nice as that trailer, but it should look nice compared to other Halo's.

SolidTy

100,000+ ppl that still play halo 3 and the 20,000 that still play halo 2 dissagrees. halo is all about fun and gameplay. dont hate because killzone 2 is dead online.

Revolution316

Do you know how many Twilight fans out there? And how many of them read any decent book in their lives? Do I have to continue my thought?

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

100,000+ ppl that still play halo 3 and the 20,000 that still play halo 2 dissagrees. halo is all about fun and gameplay. dont hate because killzone 2 is dead online.

Orchid87

Do you know how many Twilight fans out there? And how many of them read any decent book in their lives? Do I have to continue my thought?

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

100,000+ ppl that still play halo 3 and the 20,000 that still play halo 2 dissagrees. halo is all about fun and gameplay. dont hate because killzone 2 is dead online.

Do you know how many Twilight fans out there? And how many of them read any decent book in their lives? Do I have to continue my thought?

it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

chikenfriedrice

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

it's a BETA and it's MULTIPLAYER!!!!

bam706

last time i checked more people play halo 2 online than KZ2...

like I've been saying all along..milkage. It doesn't even have any graphical upgrade. Halo 3 repeat and rinse.pstripl3

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

skinny_man_69

MW2 is super innovative. It takes MW1... and umm... adds some minor stuff...? Huge innovation there.

First people need to remember Halo fans don't tend to graphics whores. I mean... I like having decent graphics. Beyond about the Halo 3 level of graphics, its just sorta gravy imo. I still think Halo 3 looks plenty good.

also... this is an early video showing pre beta MP. You can use this as a way to see what they might add (jetpacks?!?!?!? the camo armor looks pretty sweet, and murder animations are very very cool. Gives the same satisfaction that MW2 knifing gives, the old assassinations felt so dumb, wait i tapped him on the head and suddenly he's dead Oo), but its not a great sign for visuals.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Still in alpha stage, even listed on the bottom right of the vid.

Kennysolidsnake

PR nonsense > Kennysolidsnakes consistent, everyday, nonstop nonsense!

I was irritated with HonkyTonk's thread, but this thread ironically seems like the perfect revenge. :twisted:SpiritOfFire117

HonkyTonk and Kennysolidsnake! why god why? :cry:

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

Well, Halo was never about graphics anyway. But still, aestetically speaking, it is an UGLY game.

Orchid87

Does anyone remember vidoc #1, what we say here and from vidoc #1 is far from ugly

It is ugly from the artistical standpoint. I jusc don't get how people still get excited with cartooney sci-fi. Isn't that something we should have left in childhood?

One thing about Halo artstyle its shows its influence - of which their are multiple. The characters and enemies are mostly adapted from American cinema and TV - the space marine main hero. Elites are remiscient of Predators, Brutes ala Planet of the Apes. Obvious insectoid reference with the drones. Prophets are an adaption to the wise sage archetype etc.

The architecture is what really makes me smile. The Covenant is basically an exgerration of a futurist style, being nearly devoid of any sharp angels, as in todays buildings. The Forerunner constructs are nearly always depicted as a monument to verticality and angular, an extension of the todays prevalent building types. Human architecture is... uninspired. Some will argue realism, which has it merits. Seems very little happens architecturally for the human race in the Halo timeline.