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#1 Ravenchrome
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Where does Halo Reach graphics stand?

1) This is about its technical visual, not a combination with art like color palette.

2) What's the level of anti-aliasing in the game?

3) So does the sky and clouds in the Planet Reach volumetric like in Crysis?

4) How about the texture? Is it comparable to PS3 powerhouse like God Of War 3 or Uncharted 2? Or is it on Crysis level?

5) So is it the best looking Xbox360 game? (engine wise, not aesthetic)

6) What's the quality of the weapon models?

7) Is there any modern graphical aspects like Global Illumination, HDR, tessellation, dynamic day/night, dynamic weather?

8) Is the physics on the level of Crysis?

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#2 ThePsTriple
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It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standards
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#3 ChubbyGuy40
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Nothing that we haven't seen before, but that doesn't mean it's bad.

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#4 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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2. 2 or 4xMSAA i believe 3. volumetric clouds yes 4. textures look to be comparable to us2 quality but not crysis 5. engine wise, probably gears 3 6. look to be around 10-15k polys with 1024 or so textures 7. it does have Global illumination, HDR. Tessellation on Water only Crysis level physics defiantly not.
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#5 Dead-Memories
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It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsThePsTriple
PS3 standards are just as far as the 360 from PC. :?
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#6 roflcopter317
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It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsThePsTriple


What the hell is up with cows and the ps3's graphics? Seriously, uncharted 2 isn't that amazing looking.

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#8 Tessellation
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It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsThePsTriple
ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.
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#9 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsDead-Memories
PS3 standards are just as far as the 360 from PC. :?

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

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[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsTessellation
ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.

or is it MS fans thinking they aren't when they are... :) am confused hehe

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#11 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsTessellation
ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.

Exactly my point. They still say uncharted 2 looks better then Gears 3 LMAO!

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#12 soulitane
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsroflcopter317

PS3 standards are just as far as the 360 from PC. :?

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

Um crysis's graphics are amazing even without mods.
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#13 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] PS3 standards are just as far as the 360 from PC. :? soulitane

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

Um crysis's graphics are amazing even without mods.


Actualy not realy (let me check that out, starting up crysis BRB).

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#14 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsroflcopter317

ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.

Exactly my point. They still say uncharted 2 looks better then Gears 3 LMAO!

had the game,and looked barely better than Gears 2,but 3? no way.
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

roflcopter317

Um crysis's graphics are amazing even without mods.


Actualy not realy (let me check that out, starting up crysis BRB).

Ya how about you actually take a screenshot showing you have Crysis. Also have notepad open saying your name. Because from what I've seen of your posting history, I HIGHLY doubt you've ever played Crysis.

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#16 Vaasman
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I voted crysis for teh lulz. I don't have the game yet so i dunno, but I'd say from what I've seen that it's probably the best looking 360 game, and probably will rival most PS3 games.

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsroflcopter317

ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.

Exactly my point. They still say uncharted 2 looks better then Gears 3 LMAO!

Gears 3 isnt out yet. Look at fake Killzone 2 trailer. The game looks amazing but not as its been shown. Lets wait and compare Gears with UC2 when it comes out.
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#18 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Who really cares about teh graphics in Halo game? They get their job done and that's it.

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In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

roflcopter317

I play Crysis on a £500 pre build PC and can play it at 1440x900, High, 30fps. Which automatically trumps any other Shooter on consoles.

I honestly cant see how you can rate a games graphics without factoring in the art. You may aswell just benchmark the game engines to see how fast the textures stream and the poly's draw. The aesthetic of a game is 50/50 with art and technology, you cant make a game look good by focusing on one.

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#20 roflcopter317
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Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high. It shows how bad crytek is at optimising there engine, Reach runs at 30 fps with AA and all on a quater as powerfull console.

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#21 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.tommyas

Exactly my point. They still say uncharted 2 looks better then Gears 3 LMAO!

Gears 3 isnt out yet. Look at fake Killzone 2 trailer. The game looks amazing but not as its been shown. Lets wait and compare Gears with UC2 when it comes out.

there isn't any fake video of Gears 3 :|,there is plenty of gameplay videos..what are you talking about?
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Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high.

roflcopter317

How will anyone take you seriously after this statement?

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#23 skanjos
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its behind gears 2 and resident evil 5 ,you shouldnt hype the graphics for reach....

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#24 Frozzik
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

roflcopter317

Um crysis's graphics are amazing even without mods.


Actualy not realy (let me check that out, starting up crysis BRB).

lol this guy is on a PC hate crusade. He is on so many PC hate threads. I just laugh at him.

Funny you say Crysis doesn't look good. I have it installed on my PC. Unmodded, 1080p, very high with 4xAA and 8x AF. Everyone that sees it, 360 gamers, PS3 gamers...ANYONE.....thinks it looks amazing, i still love to see their faces when i shoew them it.

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#25 Eggimannd
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Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high.

roflcopter317

Still waiting on that screenshot proving that you actually own the game. :?

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#26 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

D1zzyCriminal

I play Crysis on a £500 pre build PC and can play it at 1440x900, High, 30fps. Which automatically trumps any other Shooter on consoles.

I honestly cant see how you can rate a games graphics without factoring in the art. You may aswell just benchmark the game engines to see how fast the textures stream and the poly's draw. The aesthetic of a game is 50/50 with art and technology, you cant make a game look good by focusing on one.

With art in mind, Reach wins instantly.

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#27 lespaul1919
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it looks amazing considering how clean it is and how smooth it is. the beta was an absolute joy and I can't wait till tuesday.

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#28 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high.

Eggimannd

Still waiting on that screenshot proving that you actually own the game. :?

Look in the "pc isn't that amazing thread", I posted a couple of pics.

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#29 waltefmoney
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Stop turning this thread into another Crysis/PC vs the world! It's about Halo: Reach.

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#30 hypoty
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[QUOTE="D1zzyCriminal"]

[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

In reality crysis's graphics arn't that amazing. First you need a very expensive gaming rig, second you need mods to make it look awesome (very high looks bland), with mods on it then plays at 20 fps even on the most expensive pc's which is unplayable (without aa too lol). So I don't think crysis is that amazing afterall. The only problem with Reach is that it has no dynamic shadows, but the rest is just breathtaking.

roflcopter317

I play Crysis on a £500 pre build PC and can play it at 1440x900, High, 30fps. Which automatically trumps any other Shooter on consoles.

I honestly cant see how you can rate a games graphics without factoring in the art. You may aswell just benchmark the game engines to see how fast the textures stream and the poly's draw. The aesthetic of a game is 50/50 with art and technology, you cant make a game look good by focusing on one.

With art in mind, Reach wins instantly.

Art is subjective.

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#31 gamebreakerz__
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Seriously, who voted Crysis level?
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#32 dovberg
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It doesn't look as good as gears 1

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#33 waltefmoney
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It doesn't look as good as gears 1

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Joking, I suppose?

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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high.

Orchid87

How will anyone take you seriously after this statement?

His "$1000" rig has a 9800gt. my $600 rig has a gtx 280.

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#35 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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it is hard for me to judge by looking at the videos of Reach, and specs on parer I do not give alot for.

It does impress me tho, looks fairly fluent, and I think that the draw ddistace looks decent from what I can tell.

most things looks like a quite capable engine, likely on par with what we will see from gears 3.

but again, untill I see the game with my own eyes, I can not make any kind of judgement that would be valid.

I lost faith in tech specs on engine after seeing several games supposed to run on 60 fps dip to the 20 more often then 60. and30 fps games dp to low tens.

Not on a single machine either.

So I honestly couldnt knowO.o I doubt most of us would?

A solid engine that is almost a given, and it seems like quite a big step up from the previous titles.

So a cautious guess would be "best on 360 untill Gears 3 arrives"

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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Crysis is a joke. On my $1000 rig it could barely run on high at 1920x1080 with NO AA! And it definatly doesn't look better then reach on high.

ferret-gamer

How will anyone take you seriously after this statement?

His "$1000" rig has a 9800gt. my $600 rig has a gtx 280.

i know know why this guy is so bitter towards PC.

He payed over $1000 for a PC that contains a 9800gt rofl.

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#37 ThePsTriple
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsroflcopter317

ps3 standards? there isn't such of thing,is only sony fans thinking their games are better looking when they aren't.

Exactly my point. They still say uncharted 2 looks better then Gears 3 LMAO!

Textures, animations, lighting, environments and character models in uncharted 2 are all superior to gears 3
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#38 ThePsTriple
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Seriously, who voted Crysis level?gamebreakerz__
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#39 SapSacPrime
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It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsThePsTriple
The PS3 and PC do not belong in a sentance like that, the PS3 is comparable to the 360 and their best looking games (gears 2 and U2) don't really have that much between them. The PS3 is not the graphical power house you all make it out to be and you sound like its the only system you have played in the last 5 years when you state it is.
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="D1zzyCriminal"]

I play Crysis on a £500 pre build PC and can play it at 1440x900, High, 30fps. Which automatically trumps any other Shooter on consoles.

I honestly cant see how you can rate a games graphics without factoring in the art. You may aswell just benchmark the game engines to see how fast the textures stream and the poly's draw. The aesthetic of a game is 50/50 with art and technology, you cant make a game look good by focusing on one.

hypoty

With art in mind, Reach wins instantly.

Art is subjective.

Exactly, its juvenile that people still try to say "ZoMG this teh best lookin game EVERRR!!1!" because its all subjective. I think Killzone looks drab and uninteresting. Sure it may have fantastic lighting, but why does that matter? If you think Halo looks good; good for you!

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#41 gamefan67
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I dont care what cows, lems, hermits or sheep say. Halo Reach looks awesome to me. From what I watched (the now playing on GS) the levels are pretty big, characters are nicely animated and look great, the game has some good texture (and nice grass lol), the guns are kind of eh (from what I saw), but that is the only real lowpoint I can think of. Amidst all the brown and grey shooters, Reach is a breath of fresh air to me.
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#42 HelloMoto56
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it's behind Gears of War 3, but still a great looking title.

i don't think it quite has the visual novelty of games like Uncharted 2 or God of War 3, though.

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#43 Vaasman
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Seriously, who voted Crysis level?gamebreakerz__
I did :D

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#44 Ultizer
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This is a joke right?

Reaches graphics are terrible

Low res with no AA

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#45 Arach666
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Seriously, who voted Crysis level?Vaasman

I did :D

Me too!:P
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#46 amaneuvering
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If Crysis supposed to represent the highest level on your list then I'd say Reach is up there.

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#47 dovberg
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It doesn't look as good as gears 1

waltefmoney

Joking, I suppose?

I still think gears 1 has great graphics but yes I'm joking. Of course we need to remember that when we see any 360 game that looks like they have good graphics these are all bull shots even while playing it, because the 360 can never compare to the ps3 graphics.

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#48 Frozzik
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Seriously, who voted Crysis level?Arach666

I did :D

Me too!:P

naughty :roll:

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#49 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]I did :D

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Me too!:P

naughty :roll:

What? Can´t you see that Reach looks at least just as good as Crysis,if not better?:o

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#50 PAL360
Member since 2007 • 30574 Posts

It may be the best looking 360 game but no way does it compare to pc and ps3 standardsThePsTriple

You seem confused. 360 and PS3 standards are the same and both are pretty far from PC ones.

On topic, going by vids i think reach is one of the best looking console games so far. Gears3 and others may look better next year.