Halo Reach looks coming to the PC? Very likely.

^^ There have been TONS of factual arguements to why Halo is casual in this thread, and there are more, but it's pointless to argue against people who are going against what everyone else already knows.. You guys will never admit it in this thread. It would be like accepting ownage now cause you've been argueing it for 5 pages. Everyone knows Halo is a consolized casual fest that's slow full of auto aim and has a "kiddy" art style.FriendlyGaimz

[QUOTE="kejigoto"][QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]^^ There have been TONS of factual arguements to why Halo is casual in this thread, and there are more, but it's pointless to argue against people who are going against what everyone else already knows.. You guys will never admit it in this thread. It would be like accepting ownage now cause you've been argueing it for 5 pages. Everyone knows Halo is a consolized casual fest that's slow full of auto aim and has a "kiddy" art style.Led_poison

I never said that look sensitivity had anything to do with aim assist. I was saying that it plays a part in the games speed because if your sensitivity is low then the game feels like you are moving at a crawl. Increase the sensitivity and you look around quicker and thus you can react quickly to things, whether it be aiming, turning around, or whatever. I'd say Halo is anything but slow paced and the maps are typically designed very well to constantly keep you in the action.

I've played console FPS games before where you can turn off aim assist and it still plays just fine.... So you don't HAVE to have aim assist in a console FPS, in fact in some games I tend to do alot better without aim assist on and if there is an option for it I turn it off right away.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"][QUOTE="kejigoto"] Still waiting on you to make a point. Art style has nothing to do with if a game is casual or not. Last time I checked art style doesn't make a game suddenly easier to play or anything like that. Art Style has no control over the game mechanics or how the game plays or controls. It is simply there for visual effect and that is it. If it feels slow, then increase the look sensitivity and that should do the trick. Alot of the maps are designed so you are in the action quick and only the bigger maps feel slow paced if you have a small amount of people playing on them. And how is it full of auto aim? I play on both the PC, PS3, and 360 and I hardly notice auto aim at all in Halo 3. And in the MLG map lists there is no auto aim at all. So what say you now?kejigoto

I never said that look sensitivity had anything to do with aim assist. I was saying that it plays a part in the games speed because if your sensitivity is low then the game feels like you are moving at a crawl. Increase the sensitivity and you look around quicker and thus you can react quickly to things, whether it be aiming, turning around, or whatever. I'd say Halo is anything but slow paced and the maps are typically designed very well to constantly keep you in the action.

I've played console FPS games before where you can turn off aim assist and it still plays just fine.... So you don't HAVE to have aim assist in a console FPS, in fact in some games I tend to do alot better without aim assist on and if there is an option for it I turn it off right away.

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="Espada12"]You really can't.....Ravensmash

I was thinking about the rumours that gearbox dudes hinted it was coming and it makes perfect sense. Bungie is now independent, MS is looking back at PC gaming, if you drop you fanboy hats an look at the situation it makes perfect sense for it to be a timed exclusive. It's been on the PC before, Fable 3 is coming, Kinect is coming, Bungie will make more money, I bet it was in the original Halo Reach contract. What are your thoughts? Personally I don't care, Halo on the PC is lame, controling the game with mouse and KB shows how slow it is, and how lame the weapons are etc. But I know a lot of you would like it. FriendlyGaimz

This makes it very likely? Ok...

I never said that look sensitivity had anything to do with aim assist. I was saying that it plays a part in the games speed because if your sensitivity is low then the game feels like you are moving at a crawl. Increase the sensitivity and you look around quicker and thus you can react quickly to things, whether it be aiming, turning around, or whatever. I'd say Halo is anything but slow paced and the maps are typically designed very well to constantly keep you in the action.

I've played console FPS games before where you can turn off aim assist and it still plays just fine.... So you don't HAVE to have aim assist in a console FPS, in fact in some games I tend to do alot better without aim assist on and if there is an option for it I turn it off right away.

kejigoto

No you NEED aim assist on consoles, to test your theory hook up your xbox 360 controller to your PC, play a FPS (preferably not halo 2 or shadowrun). It just does not work.

Um no, its not very likely. Think about it, if Gearbox was involved in any sort of Reach port, Microsoft would be on that guy like a pack of wolves over even the slighest hint. He was clearly messing around, you don't "hint" at something this big.

And I remember people all saying it was very likely Halo 3 would go to the PC, and yet 3 years later, nothing.

Lol @ people trying to prove Halo isn't casual because of "lack of evidence", lemmingness to the point of utter denial and implicit admission of ignorance about the gaming world :roll:

And shame on you, TC, for making a thread about the flagship 360 franchise going to PC based on a "Yes. No. Maybe. What was the question?" joke stirring up all this commotion.

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

I never said that look sensitivity had anything to do with aim assist. I was saying that it plays a part in the games speed because if your sensitivity is low then the game feels like you are moving at a crawl. Increase the sensitivity and you look around quicker and thus you can react quickly to things, whether it be aiming, turning around, or whatever. I'd say Halo is anything but slow paced and the maps are typically designed very well to constantly keep you in the action.

I've played console FPS games before where you can turn off aim assist and it still plays just fine.... So you don't HAVE to have aim assist in a console FPS, in fact in some games I tend to do alot better without aim assist on and if there is an option for it I turn it off right away.

Led_poison

No you NEED aim assist on consoles, to test your theory hook up your xbox 360 controller to your PC, play a FPS (preferably not halo 2 or shadowrun). It just does not work.

Lol @ people trying to prove Halo isn't casual because of "lack of evidence", lemmingness to the point of utter denial and implicit admission of ignorance about the gaming world :roll:

And shame on you, TC, for making a thread about the flagship 360 franchise going to PC based on a "Yes. No. Maybe. What was the question?" joke stirring up all this commotion.

N30F3N1X

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Lol @ people trying to prove Halo isn't casual because of "lack of evidence", lemmingness to the point of utter denial and implicit admission of ignorance about the gaming world :roll:

And shame on you, TC, for making a thread about the flagship 360 franchise going to PC based on a "Yes. No. Maybe. What was the question?" joke stirring up all this commotion.

Anjunaddict

Halo is both. It appeals to both casual and hardcore, which is why its so successful. What exactly is the problem. Anjunaddict

I don't have a problem with the game.

Saying it's not casual because the first guy who said it didn't provide any evidence however does make me go "What :| ?".

[QUOTE="kejigoto"]

I never said that look sensitivity had anything to do with aim assist. I was saying that it plays a part in the games speed because if your sensitivity is low then the game feels like you are moving at a crawl. Increase the sensitivity and you look around quicker and thus you can react quickly to things, whether it be aiming, turning around, or whatever. I'd say Halo is anything but slow paced and the maps are typically designed very well to constantly keep you in the action.

I've played console FPS games before where you can turn off aim assist and it still plays just fine.... So you don't HAVE to have aim assist in a console FPS, in fact in some games I tend to do alot better without aim assist on and if there is an option for it I turn it off right away.

Led_poison

No you NEED aim assist on consoles, to test your theory hook up your xbox 360 controller to your PC, play a FPS (preferably not halo 2 or shadowrun). It just does not work.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Lol @ people trying to prove Halo isn't casual because of "lack of evidence", lemmingness to the point of utter denial and implicit admission of ignorance about the gaming world :roll:

And shame on you, TC, for making a thread about the flagship 360 franchise going to PC based on a "Yes. No. Maybe. What was the question?" joke stirring up all this commotion.

FriendlyGaimz

Like it is already stated, games like Bad Company 2 and even Red Dead Redemption have the ability to turn aim assist completely off and it works just fine. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. I can play a game just fine with no aim assist on and have been since last generation. You may NEED aim assist, but others out there don't. And I've used my 360 controller on the PC before and done just fine, but if I'm playing on my PC I want to use the keyboard and mouse, hence my choosing to play on the PC. If I wanted to use my 360 controller I'd pick up my 360.kejigoto

only problem with that is you cant turn off aim assist. even selecting the option to turn it'off' just lessens it.

[QUOTE="kejigoto"] Like it is already stated, games like Bad Company 2 and even Red Dead Redemption have the ability to turn aim assist completely off and it works just fine. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean others can't. I can play a game just fine with no aim assist on and have been since last generation. You may NEED aim assist, but others out there don't. And I've used my 360 controller on the PC before and done just fine, but if I'm playing on my PC I want to use the keyboard and mouse, hence my choosing to play on the PC. If I wanted to use my 360 controller I'd pick up my 360.washd123

only problem with that is you cant turn off aim assist. even selecting the option to turn it'off' just lessens it.

Do people really buy Halo on PC? I've always though Halo 3 wasnt on PC because Halo 2 and Halo CE sold badly

Do people really buy Halo on PC? I've always though Halo 3 wasnt on PC because Halo 2 and Halo CE sold badly

gamer-adam1

Do people really buy Halo on PC? I've always though Halo 3 wasnt on PC because Halo 2 and Halo CE sold badly

gamer-adam1

Of course, let's not remember that the first one came a year and a half after its release on X360 competing with UT2003, or that the second one was (supposodely :P) Vista exclusive and Vista was considered garbage at the time...

I'm by no means a Halo hater, but it wouldn't work on the PC. One of the things I love about Halo is, its works so well on a console. The matchmaking, when compared to pretty much every other game out there, is much better, and Reach improved on this. Forge provides a decent substitute for a PC game modding community, which traditionally added a ton of replay value to PC games. Its a perfect game to play casually with my friends. However, throw Reach, as it stands on the PC, and it gets dwarfed by games that were designed exclusively for the PC. Look at the PC port of Halo 2, or even MW2 for that matter, they're great fun on a console, but it really feels as if you're wasting your time playing the PC versions.

Also, Halo sold pretty well on the PC, Halo 2 had awful sales, mostly because it was a trash port that was 2 years too late, and shut out a majority of potential customers by forcing Vista as the operating system for no real reason.

this thread makes me hope its true...the bawwing on this board would be of epic proportions.

Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.bigboss5ak

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.N30F3N1X

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.N30F3N1X

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

How was it designed as a "casual" shooter?.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.N30F3N1X

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

The fact there's a high skill ceiling.

It may have been designed as a casual shooter (in your opinion) but it sure as heck isnt executed as one. Ill admit its hard to explain how halo 3 is or isnt for the hardcore, but all i know is that when you start taking on a certain level of skilled players the game changes significantly. It becomes more difficult to rack up kills. If a group of 30-35 take on a group of 45-50 those 30s would get destroyed.bigboss5ak

It's not "my opinion".

Look at CS, UT2004 or Quake pro matches.

Halo is as hardcore as Minesweeper in comparison.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]It may have been designed as a casual shooter (in your opinion) but it sure as heck isnt executed as one. Ill admit its hard to explain how halo 3 is or isnt for the hardcore, but all i know is that when you start taking on a certain level of skilled players the game changes significantly. It becomes more difficult to rack up kills. If a group of 30-35 take on a group of 45-50 those 30s would get destroyed.N30F3N1X

It's not "my opinion".

Look at CS, UT2004 or Quake pro matches.

Halo is as hardcore as Minesweeper in comparison.

Ofc its your opinion as there's no clear definition of casual. (in regards to games)

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.N30F3N1X

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

Ofc its your opinion as there's no clear definition of casual. (in regards to games)

Snugenz

There is no clear definition of casual only because people takes being put in a position in the casual-hardcore spectrum as an offense.

For someone with experience in gaming it's crystal clear what the difference between "casual" and "hardcore" is.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Do people really buy Halo on PC? I've always though Halo 3 wasnt on PC because Halo 2 and Halo CE sold badly

Ravensmash

Halo CE definitely still has a community. I played a couple rounds on it yesterday.

I'd really like to see Reach come to PC, they added a lot of changes since CE, and the only time I get to use the new stuff I have to play dual analog (which I suck at).

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Ofc its your opinion as there's no clear definition of casual. (in regards to games)

N30F3N1X

There is no clear definition of casual only because people takes being put in a position in the casual-hardcore spectrum as an offense.

For someone with experience in gaming it's crystal clear what the difference between "casual" and "hardcore" is.

I've been gaming for 23 ish years, i've a fair amount of experience with gaming thanks, and there's no clear definition as far as i'm aware, if you can define it then by all means go ahead.

I would rejoice if true. Also, they'd have to revamp the whole online to make it work with servers, which would take extra effort, so I don't think it will happen.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Halo for casuals?? lol i would love to see the op or even a casual for that matter get dropped into a playlist of level 47-50s, i can almost gaurantee they wouldnt get more than 3-4 kills. Halo 3 requires a tremendous amount of skill if you want to take on the level 45-50s. As for reach coming to the pc i doubt it but if it does it'll be in 3 to 4 years maybe. Not that i would care because 95% of cows still wouldnt get to play it.jjccjj92

So?

How does that negate that it was designed as a casual FPS?

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Do people really buy Halo on PC? I've always though Halo 3 wasnt on PC because Halo 2 and Halo CE sold badly

N30F3N1X

Of course, let's not remember that the first one came a year and a half after its release on X360 competing with UT2003, or that the second one was (supposodely :P) Vista exclusive and Vista was considered garbage at the time...

So yeah, the first Halo on PC was actually really popular. [link]

The second Halo, though, was (arbitrarily) Vista exclusive at a time when no one had Vista or wanted it. It also came out *3 years later* than the console version, the same year as FPSs like Crysis. So yeah, it bombed, but how could it not have? The only way they could have marketed it worse is by spreading a virus upon installation.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

There is no clear definition of casual only because people takes being put in a position in the casual-hardcore spectrum as an offense.

For someone with experience in gaming it's crystal clear what the difference between "casual" and "hardcore" is.

FriendlyGaimz

I've been gaming for 23 ish years, i've a fair amount of experience with gaming thanks, and there's no clear definition as far as i'm aware, if you can define it then by all means go ahead.

Step one is still going strong as noone has given a solid reason as to how its casual. Thanks. ;)

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] Not sure if serious... Even the most hardcore of Halo fanboys would admit it's a very casual friendly console FPS... I'm not even sure if your serious...loadedboon

See how long those MLG players will last in CS on the pc.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] see how long your casuals last in the MLG playlist. Guppy507

See how long those MLG players will last in CS on the pc.

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

I've been gaming for 23 ish years, i've a fair amount of experience with gaming thanks, and there's no clear definition as far as i'm aware, if you can define it then by all means go ahead.

Snugenz

Step one is still going strong as noone has given a solid reason as to how its casual. Thanks. ;)

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] Step one try to defend Halo form being casual. Step one failed. Step two try and change the definition of casual. Step two failed. Halo is casual just like WoW is casual and WOW still has pros... It's casual get over it. FriendlyGaimz

Step one is still going strong as noone has given a solid reason as to how its casual. Thanks. ;)

The thing is, you havent made any arguements, all you've done is say "its casual cos i sayz so hur dur". So bring on the arguements. Unless ofc as i suspect you have none, which seems likely due to all your posturing and "get over it" remarks. ;)

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Step one is still going strong as noone has given a solid reason as to how its casual. Thanks. ;)

Snugenz

The thing is, you havent made any arguements, all you've done is say "its casual cos i sayz so hur dur". So bring on the arguements.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]I was thinking about the rumours that gearbox dudes hinted it was coming and it makes perfect sense. Bungie is now independent, MS is looking back at PC gaming, if you drop you fanboy hats an look at the situation it makes perfect sense for it to be a timed exclusive. It's been on the PC before, Fable 3 is coming, Kinect is coming, Bungie will make more money, I bet it was in the original Halo Reach contract. What are your thoughts? Personally I don't care, Halo on the PC is lame, controling the game with mouse and KB shows how slow it is, and how lame the weapons are etc. But I know a lot of you would like it. FriendlyGaimz

Dear god no. Like we want that generic noobified excuse for an FPS.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] Step one try to defend Halo form being casual. Step one failed. Step two try and change the definition of casual. Step two failed. Halo is casual just like WoW is casual and WOW still has pros... It's casual get over it. FriendlyGaimz

Step one is still going strong as noone has given a solid reason as to how its casual. Thanks. ;)

now you're going back to your routine of making baseless claims. sorry, but your argument can't be taken seriously if you don't provide any proof to back it up. that's just the way it is.