Halo reach may be the best FPS ever released(yet)

Epic story, epic ,mp maps, epic abilites, epic weapons, epic campaign, epic vehicles, epic firefight, epic forge.

halo reach has a very high potential of getting a 10, and being the best FPS ever, and yes i'm including PC

Epic story, epic ,mp maps, epic abilites, epic weapons, epic campaign, epic vehicles, epic firefight, epic forge.

halo reach has a very high potential of getting a 10, and being the best FPS ever, and yes i'm including PC

gamedude234

I really like Halo, but none of them will ever be the top dog of FPSs.

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Epic story, epic ,mp maps, epic abilites, epic weapons, epic campaign, epic vehicles, epic firefight, epic forge.

halo reach has a very high potential of getting a 10, and being the best FPS ever, and yes i'm including PC

IcyToasters

no, halo 3 didn't have the needler rifle. :P

no seriously, you are missing something. a group of spartans, space battles, armor abilities and a new story from a new perspective make reach very different from 3

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

Halo doesnt have anywhere near a terrible story, any of them.

Correct.

Always are.

Forge was very decent for what you could do with it in Halo 3, any better and it'll be fantastic.

As for Reach being the best FPS ever, well no it most likely wont be, but it will likely be up there with the other Halo's as some of the best FPS's out there.

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

how so?

true

its been said that it'll be better, and 3s was already good, so problem fixed:)

Not really. It does look like a high quality top notch game but unfortunately paying 60 dollars for it doesnt allow me to play its multiplayer component so I am still not buying it.

Not really. It does look like a high quality top notch game but unfortunately paying 60 dollars for it doesnt allow me to play its multiplayer component so I am still not buying it.

RadecSupreme

It sure does, offline multiplayer.

Not really. It does look like a high quality top notch game but unfortunately paying 60 dollars for it doesnt allow me to play its multiplayer component so I am still not buying it.

RadecSupreme

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Halo-Reach-Xbox-360/dp/B002BSH9JY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1278531907&sr=8-1

hope that helps:) you can order it from america if you need to.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

gamedude234

how so?

true

its been said that it'll be better, and 3s was already good, so problem fixed:)

The plot is very straight forward with little twists or turns, and when there are you don't care because the characters involved was so unlikable anyway.

Halo: CE was the best but that's not saying much.

Glad we can agree :)

It better be

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

Halo fails hard

No. Half Life 2.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

SpiritOfFire117

Wonder how long it takes to google a synopsis on the Halo story.

Am I missing something? It just looks like another Halo game, with slight improvements. Improvements that should have been made years ago to make Halo 3 worth $60...

IcyToasters

Halo 3 was well worth $60, you must be thinking of ODST.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

how so?

true

its been said that it'll be better, and 3s was already good, so problem fixed:)

The plot is very straight forward with little twists or turns, and when there are you don't care because the characters involved was so unlikable anyway.

Halo: CE was the best but that's not saying much.

Glad we can agree :)

It better be

Halo may not be for everyone but it's nowhere near 'terrible.' It's a very rich and unique universe to spend time in.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

how so?

true

its been said that it'll be better, and 3s was already good, so problem fixed:)

The plot is very straight forward with little twists or turns, and when there are you don't care because the characters involved was so unlikable anyway.

Halo: CE was the best but that's not saying much.

Glad we can agree :)

It better be

on the story:

bad characters i understand, but no plot twists? come on, nobdoy was expecting the flood and the sentinels in halo:CE. and what about the covenant civil war? the human-elite alliance?

the master cheif getting too much screen time?= have you played halo 2? ODST?

and actually interma of story-wise(NOT campaign wise) halo 2 was better imo.

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

toast_burner

Halo fails hard

louisfoxton

better than COD or killzone;)

and how does it "fail hard"? please i would love to hear your mature and developed arguments:)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

dommeus

yeah, kinda true. they improved in halo 3, but if you hadn't played the first 2, you were always like WTF?

its the opposite of half-life: bad story told very well. :)

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

Snugenz

Wonder how long it takes to google a synopsis on the Halo story.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

Snugenz

Halo doesnt have anywhere near a terrible story, any of them.

Correct.

Always are.

Forge was very decent for what you could do with it in Halo 3, any better and it'll be fantastic.

As for Reach being the best FPS ever, well no it most likely wont be, but it will likely be up there with the other Halo's as some of the best FPS's out there.

I'm going to disagree, halo games stories are cheesy and cliche.

Halo fails hard

louisfoxton

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

gamedude234

yeah, kinda true. they improved in halo 3, but if you hadn't played the first 2, you were always like WTF?

its the opposite of half-life: bad story told very well. :)

Its a good story, but each game is different with how its told, Halo CE did it really well, Halo 2 not so much and Halo 3 better than Halo 2 but worse than Halo CE. IMO

The books are excellent though.

no seriously, you are missing something. a group of spartans, space battles, armor abilities and a new story from a new perspective make reach very different from 3

gamedude234

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]What is the story about exactly? I'm curious.

SpiritOfFire117

Wonder how long it takes to google a synopsis on the Halo story.

so can I:)

but i ask that question to alot of people and they never answer... why do people ignore me?:cry:

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

gamedude234

yeah, kinda true. they improved in halo 3, but if you hadn't played the first 2, you were always like WTF?

its the opposite of half-life: bad story told very well. :)

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"] Good story, told very very poorly.dommeus

yeah, kinda true. they improved in halo 3, but if you hadn't played the first 2, you were always like WTF?

its the opposite of half-life: bad story told very well. :)

yeah, i mean it wasn't TERRIBLE, its just that i didn't really pay much attention, having too much fun with the gravity gun;)

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

no seriously, you are missing something. a group of spartans, space battles, armor abilities and a new story from a new perspective make reach very different from 3

IcyToasters

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

no seriously, you are missing something. a group of spartans, space battles, armor abilities and a new story from a new perspective make reach very different from 3

Ninja-Hippo

well, you want things to be fresh.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

how so?

true

its been said that it'll be better, and 3s was already good, so problem fixed:)

gamedude234

The plot is very straight forward with little twists or turns, and when there are you don't care because the characters involved was so unlikable anyway.

Halo: CE was the best but that's not saying much.

Glad we can agree :)

It better be

on the story:

bad characters i understand, but no plot twists? come on, nobdoy was expecting the flood and the sentinels in halo:CE. and what about the covenant civil war? the human-elite alliance?

the master cheif getting too much screen time?= have you played halo 2? ODST?

and actually interma of story-wise(NOT campaign wise) halo 2 was better imo.

As for plot twists I did say there were some but to me they had very little impact. I kinda ruined the flood surprise before playing Halo: CE so I can't comment on that one.

Terrible was an exageration but it still borders the line of bad and ok (imo)

well, you want things to be fresh.

gamedude234

Well I found Half-Life 2 to be a much superior game to the Halo series and I don't think Halo Reach will make me think otherwise...

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Terrible characters and just a lame plot. The masterchief gets way to much screen time especially considering how the writers did such a good job of making sure no personality shows through his mostly emotionless voice.

The plot is very straight forward with little twists or turns, and when there are you don't care because the characters involved was so unlikable anyway.

Halo: CE was the best but that's not saying much.

Glad we can agree :)

It better be

toast_burner

on the story:

bad characters i understand, but no plot twists? come on, nobdoy was expecting the flood and the sentinels in halo:CE. and what about the covenant civil war? the human-elite alliance?

the master cheif getting too much screen time?= have you played halo 2? ODST?

and actually interma of story-wise(NOT campaign wise) halo 2 was better imo.

As for plot twists I did say there were some but to me they had very little impact. I kinda ruined the flood surprise before playing Halo: CE so I can't comment on that one.

Terrible was an exageration but it still borders the line of bad and ok (imo)

the covenant civil war had very little impact:?:

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

dommeus

I can see potential but everything just fell flat on its face

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

well, you want things to be fresh.

Ninja-Hippo

you're right, no FPS nowadays can be truly REVOLUTIONARY, but it can bring in lots of small but important gameplay mechanics to notmake a gamer feel like he bought 2 of the same games but with different covers.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

on the story:

bad characters i understand, but no plot twists? come on, nobdoy was expecting the flood and the sentinels in halo:CE. and what about the covenant civil war? the human-elite alliance?

the master cheif getting too much screen time?= have you played halo 2? ODST?

and actually interma of story-wise(NOT campaign wise) halo 2 was better imo.

gamedude234

As for plot twists I did say there were some but to me they had very little impact. I kinda ruined the flood surprise before playing Halo: CE so I can't comment on that one.

Terrible was an exageration but it still borders the line of bad and ok (imo)

the covenant civil war had very little impact:?:

Well I found Half-Life 2 to be a much superior game to the Halo series and I don't think Halo Reach will make me think otherwise...

Eggimannd

I don't.

Apart from the section withthe supergravity gun, whichwas one of the most fun and rewarding sections in FPS games,Half Life 2 felt really boring to me.

I don't know, maybe because my mood wasn't correct, or whatever, but it just fealt like a constant set of hallways, one after the other. The combine felt like a constant stream of bots to kill, and if it wasn't for Alyx and Gman, the supporting cast won't be anything spectacular.

The actual guns also kinda felt boring too. I don't know how I can quantifiably explain this though.

And the fact that Gordon Freeman is a mute does not help, and it really did not put me in that position either.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

All the Halo games have had a terrible story, I doubt Reach will break that tradition

It will have good gameplay and Maps

The weapons will probably be interesting

Forge needs to be at least 500 times better then Halo 3's forge in order to be decent

SpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Now I think about it Halo 2 did have the better story. They portrayed the aliens well. most games just have aliens attacking earth for no reason Halo actually tried to give a reason for the attacks.

As for plot twists I did say there were some but to me they had very little impact. I kinda ruined the flood surprise before playing Halo: CE so I can't comment on that one.

Terrible was an exageration but it still borders the line of bad and ok (imo)

toast_burner

the covenant civil war had very little impact:?:

which caharcter you knew nothing about died in halo 2and was made a big deal of?

and the writers didn't give any reason tocare whether there was a civil war or not? have you played the level high charity?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

well, you want things to be fresh.

gamedude234

you're right, no FPS nowadays can be truly REVOLUTIONARY, but it can bring in lots of small but important gameplay mechanics to notmake a gamer feel like he bought 2 of the same games but with different covers.

Threads like this make me feel sorry for none PC gamers. They end up missing out on soooooo many AWESOME FPS, then come off thinking games like this are the best of the best and it gets no better.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

the covenant civil war had very little impact:?:

Ninja-Hippo

actually, you can't really sit out fights because as soon as enemys see you, they focus on YOU.

and having elites fight by your side is a diffenret perspective(and its awesome!:P)

and brutes are quite different from elites...

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Now I think about it Halo 2 did have the better story. They portrayed the aliens well. most games just have aliens attacking earth for no reason Halo actually tried to give a reason for the attacks.

As for plot twists I did say there were some but to me they had very little impact. I kinda ruined the flood surprise before playing Halo: CE so I can't comment on that one.

Terrible was an exageration but it still borders the line of bad and ok (imo)

toast_burner

the covenant civil war had very little impact:?:

They did give you a reason to care, called the Arbiter.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] And it's doing all kinds of things you've never seen Halo do before. I just don't get the logic of going down a list of features and discounting them because 'they've been done'. So what? Cover was done before Gears of War came out, but that was a good game. How revolutionary can anyone reasonably expect a first person shooter to be?

Ninja-Hippo

you're right, no FPS nowadays can be truly REVOLUTIONARY, but it can bring in lots of small but important gameplay mechanics to notmake a gamer feel like he bought 2 of the same games but with different covers.

and thats why its fresh and innovative(for fpses)

I wouldn't say Half Life has a bad story (though I am admittedly a huge ****ing HL fanboy), but it certainly isn't an original one. But yes they certainly tell their story very well. Watching the developer commentaries gives a fascinating insight into game development.dommeus