'Halo' TV show is off to a very, very bad start

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"TV... Anyone?"

*crowd starts to golf clap*

Ridley Scott's 'Halo' TV show is off to a very, very bad start

  • By Ross Miller, Jimmy Shelton, Adi Robertson, Chris Ziegler, AndrewWebster, T.C. Sottek, Dan Seifert, Ryan Manning, Ellis Hamburger, andChaim Gartenberg
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As a prelude to next year's Halo 5: GuardiansMicrosoft is releasing a digital video series,Halo: Nightfall executive produced by Ridley Scott. The series will launch next week withHalo: The Master Chief Collection (i.e. you have to have an Xbox to watch this — for now, at least). The Verge had a chance to see the first episode early, and whether or not you're a Halo fan, the outlook's frankly not so good.

Jimmy Shelton

Senior Video Director and Halo aficionado

I started playing Halo when the original game came out in 2001 and I've been highly addicted. The universe fascinated me. It was ancient, grand, and epic and the stories being told felt larger than anything I had played previously. That's why, naturally, I was desperately waiting for the inevitable movie or TV show announcement so that the rest of the world could experience this magical place.

When Halo Nightfall was announced with Ridley Scott attached, instant giddiness ensued. It was going to happen this time. Someone as talented as Ridley Scott was bound to get this universe right. After watching the premiere episode, I couldn’t have been more wrong.Halo Nightfall tries to briefly introduce the audience into this world (via text) and then immediately turns into a generic sci-fi show with some of the worst CGI I’ve seen in recent years. It doesn’t feel grand or epic or ancient. One of the main scenes has a Covenant Elite casually stroll into a shopping mall to detonate some form of biological weaponry. Seriously?!?

This show was only green-lit because of the Halo name and it will die after this season because if this pilot is any indication it’s not only a bad Halo adaptation, it’s just a bad show. We now expect brilliance from our television. You can’t ride the Halo brand and expect poor storytelling, bad acting, and horrible CGI to get you anywhere. I want the industry to stop trying to adapt Halo because they’re doing it for all the wrong reasons. Just make an entertaining show and stop destroying my hopes and dreams.

Adi Robertson

Reporter and science fiction aficionado

Despite my overall love of science fiction shooters, I’ve never really followed Halo’s story — if nothing else, the Endless Capital Letters for non-proper nouns put me off. So I have no investment whatsoever in Nightfall, and if I really want to get up to speed for Halo 5: Guardians, I’ll check Wikipedia. That said, if someone described the theoretical premise of Nightfall to me at a party, I’d probably watch it. "Yeah, it’s like someone set Event Horizon in Battlestar Galactica, except everything’s happening because of Master Chief." The show might be richer for someone who knows the world, but the tropes are universal enough that I doubt it matters much.

Unfortunately, the first episode is neither Event Horizon nor BSG. It’s not even Caprica. I imagine it’s hard to squeeze a whole pilot into 30 minutes, and the building blocks are fine — Mike Colter and Christina Chong are likeable leads, the cinematography has a ‘90s-TV feel but a rich palette — but it’s just so hard for me to care about people I’m barely introduced to, laboring under a comically gruff voice-over about honor in battle, fighting over a world that so far consists of a military base, some trees, and a shopping mall. I might not be able to see the capital letters when characters keep talking about Elite Zealots, but I know they’re there.

I’m holding out hope that Nightfall’s "ancient, hellish artifact" will actually be as creepy or surreal as the showrunners have promised, which could draw me back for at least one more episode. But I’m not optimistic. The pilot feels like my worst stereotypes about the Halo universe and space opera (BSG notwithstanding) in general: a serviceable action story hamstrung by a devotion to bland epic lore-crafting at the expense of character development or unique set pieces that don’t fit some overarching 343 Industries Bible. Wake me up when Master Chief summons Pinhead.

Chris Ziegler

Deputy Editor, likes cars

I am a casual gamer (and that's being generous). I think I've heard of Halo. I may have owned the first Halo for the original Xbox.

Where am I? What's going on? Why does the CGI look like it was pulled out of the bottom of a Cracker Jack box? Why is North Korea's infamous "Tower of Doom," the Ryugyong Hotel, on this space city's skyline? Oh, and spoiler: there's no Halo anymore. I guess it got blown up? I don't know if that's actually a spoiler, maybe that happened in one of the video games already.

Nightfall just doesn't seem accessible in any way to people who aren't up to speed with the franchise — but Halo diehards will probably have a very different experience. I won't be watching again, unless Vin Diesel shows up.

Andrew Webster

Reporter, succinct reviewer

The emotional depth of the Phantom Menace combined with the production values of a made-for-TV movie. Cool armor, though.

TC Sottek

News Editor

Halo: Nightfall is a live-action video game with none of the benefits of a video game. Its creators took what is already one of the most boring sci-fi universes in gaming and then built a show around its extras; disposable UNSC grunts that manage to have even less personality than the video game's faceless protagonist.

I played the Halo trilogy and I would not watch it again. Instead I will brood in my basement with a permanent grimace hoping that HBO will make a Mass Effect series. Incidentally I wouldn't even play Halo again. It's so bland.

You know what? This is my review: "This show is so bad I'm buying a PS4."

Dan Seifert

Senior Editor

I'm not a Halo fan, I haven't played since the first one or two, so I'm not super well versed in the storyline.

As far as it goes as a show, Nightfall feels like a typical SyFy original, with stilted acting and corny dialog. The CGI was ironically pretty obvious in a lot of places. Still, it kept my attention for the entire episode (not an easy feat!) and I would watch the next episode. It's like a popcorn movie: entertaining enough, but nothing that makes you think. Side note: was Frank Miller involved with this? Felt like I was watching 300 with guns in a lot of places.

Ryan Manning

Director / Editor, Video

I've played Halo a couple times, I've watched people play it A LOT. I don't know much of the backstory, There is a halo that rotates to create artificial gravity, thats pretty sweet. There are futury laser swords. Master chief; I don't know what his significance is other than he's a chill dude who is in charge in some way…he's like the president? IDK.

The episode was pretty shitty. Typical Syfy shit. Bad Acting, bad script, everything looks artificial, actors are way too handsome/beautiful to be real people, etc etc. The CGI was a little below what one would deem acceptable; i was having flashbacks to 1995's Jumanji. Maybe one of the problems with this adaptation is that Halo is all about action, right? But action is expensive to do, so they have to fill it out with dialogue. But nobody plays Halo for the Dialogue right? it's a gritty space war, and you're in the middle of it. Shoot the bad guys, save the universe, it's pretty simple fun. Take that action away and whats left?

Parts of the premise were fairly interesting. The idea of a unique bacteria existing only on a destroyed 'Halo' (Which I guess was like a super rich human chill zone?? c.c. Elysium). As a person interested in Extraterrestrial life, one of the common topics is microscopic/bacterial life surviving in extreme conditions. Most of the planets in our solar system are unable to harbor life as we know it, so the only way 'aliens' could exists on them is if they could survive these extreme conditions. It's also speculated that such a life form could survive on a meteor and endure lengthy space travel until colliding with a planet. This hypothesis is called Panspermia, and it's one of the best guesses we have for how life started on earth. So in that way, it's some pretty nerdy cool stuff. I just wish the execution was better.

Ross Miller

Senior Editor, Pop Culture Whore

Some of my favorite trailers have been for movies that did not, in any way shape or form, deliver on the promise of that minutes-long teaser. Trailers like Watchmenand Prometheus.

I wouldn't put the Nightfall trailer into that category, but I'd definitely say the teaser gave more promise than what was ultimately delivered. It hinted at higher production value and more emotional depth.

I'm not surprised. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed.

Ellis Hamburger

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[This is too beautiful to copy edit. Leaving this as submitted. Sorry, Ellis! — RM]

hey! so this was really terrible. it reminded me of a low budget SyFy series that i’d never want to watch

the special effects were mortifying, dialogue was almost completely pointless, and the overall affect was that this thing wanted to replicate 300 but with random Halo dudes

it was just so cheesey and bizarre and i could barely get thru it :(

Chaim Gartenberg

Intern

I'm pretty knowledgable about Halo. I’ve played through almost every game, and put what probably adds up to a couple hundred hours into multiplayer (high school Saturday nights were basically Halo 3 marathons). Or, to put it another way, I own and have read at least one Halo book.

As an introduction to both Agent Locke and a new chapter of the Halo universe, Nightfallfeels a little underwhelming. Much like its spiritual predecessor produced for Halo 4, Halo: Forward Unto Dawn, it’s still cool to see big budget, live action versions of classic Halo guns, ships and aliens. But the lack of Master Chief (or any Spartans, at least for now — Aiken has been hinted to be revealed later on as one of the iconic super-soldiers) is definitely a mark against it. And Agent Locke, the presumed deuteragonist of Halo 5: Guardians and whose origin story Nightfall intends to tell is still completely a blank slate at this (admittedly early) point. I’d have liked to see more characterization for Locke (who we’ll be spending a large portion of Halo 5 with), even if it meant less time to focus on what was ultimately just a fairly standard set up for Nightfall’s story.

I’ll probably watch more of Nightfall, if only to be caught up for Halo 5 when it launches next year, but I’d like Nightfall to give me a reason to care.

Jake Kastrenakes

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If this is what Microsoft's original programming was going to look like, it's a good thing that Satya Nadella pulled the cord. Halo: Nightfall feels like it's meant for kids, with goofy chase and fight sequences, cheesy effects, and spell-out-every-single-detail-for-you dialog.

I really do think that there's a good sci-fi story inside of Halo — it's basically Lost, but they're in space and discovering weird things about an ancient ring — but none of that is inNightfall.

Sauce is The Verge

Looks like Sony fans have something to pan the XBox for when the inevitable 'Powers' threads hit. LOL

Notable quote:
"This show is so bad, I'm buying a PS4."

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#2  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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No one really cares about that dudebro shit.

Halo is nostalgia drivin like most nintendo games.

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#3  Edited By BruceBenzing
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You have a link for anyone actually hyping the Halo TV show?

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Couldn't care less about that TV show.

Hannibal season 3. True Detective season 2 Something worth looking forward to.

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So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

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Its creators took what is already one of the most boring sci-fi universes in gaming and then built a show around its extras; disposable UNSC grunts that manage to have even less personality than the video game's faceless protagonist.

wow

lol

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@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

It's all about that LBP 3 baby!

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#9  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

B/c no one fishes for bad Playstation news and then posts it here.

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#10  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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Maybe that's why they canned all this TV nonsense :O

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#11  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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TC's other thread backfire and he's already at it again.

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I always expect to have my socks blown off from watching a TV show. Preorder Canceled.

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@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

Have fun while it lasts, the moment Soony do anything remotely decent we will never hear the end of it.

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Eh, I didn't dig Foward Unto Dawn much either, Halo EU is nice but it should really focus on the novels, comics and maybe animated series, video game live adaptions just never seem to work out too well. Comic live adaptions seem to nail it constantly like Gotham and Arrow though. Maybe they should of looked at those shows before making this game.

Plus lol @ Ridley Scott

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@draign said:

I always expect to have my socks blown off from watching a TV show. Preorder Canceled.

@Shewgenja said:

@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

It's all about that LBP 3 baby!

Now that's a reply the SP likes... +100 for playin along. :P

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The pilot for most shows are terrible il leave it a few episodes before I pass judgement. I didnt like Breaking bad until S1ep5.

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@freedomfreak said:

Couldn't care less about that TV show.

Hannibal season 3. True Detective season 2 Something worth looking forward to.

Q1 2015 is gonna be a good time to be alive.

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#19  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Shewgenja: You know, people like you are the reason cows are hated so much - pretty much everywhere in the world of gaming. Seriously, do you just scour the internet looking for any possible bad Xbox news? What the f*ck is the matter with you?

News flash: At least we got a TV show. Sony owns a movie studio and haven't given PS fans shit.

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#21  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@funkmaster1233 said:
@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

Have fun while it lasts, the moment Soony do anything remotely decent we will never hear the end of it.

Like how COD:AW is uber-more awesome-looks 1000x better on X1 than PS4 b/c it gets 10 more fps for a grand total of about 3 minutes in the whole game.

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I always new that Ridely Scott was a hack. Dudes going nowhere.

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#23  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Xbox One fans were hyping this a while back, before their TV division got put down and this was the only thing left.

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@StormyJoe said:

@Shewgenja: You know, people like you are the reason cows are hated so much - pretty much everywhere in the world of gaming. Seriously, do you just scour the internet looking for any possible bad Xbox news? What the f*ck is the matter with you?

News flash: At least we got a TV show. Sony own a movie studio, and haven't given PS fans shit.

LMFAO!

It was on my Facebook bro. Dude, fanboys of all types are a joke to everyone. They give gamers a bad name.

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It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

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@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

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#27  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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first time i hear about a halo tv "show"

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#28  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Yeah, I bet all 5 people looking forward to this will be disappointed.

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Too bad, so sad...

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#31  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

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#32  Edited By R3FURBISHED
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@Shewgenja said:

Sauce is The Verge

Looks like Sony fans have something to pan the XBox for when the inevitable 'Powers' threads hit. LOL

Notable quote:

"This show is so bad, I'm buying a PS4."

Quoting a bunch of reviews where the majority of people are not familiar with the source material in any way? Your thread is off to a very, very bad start.

Here you go, I posted this in OT a hour and a half ago:

@R3FURBISHED said:

Seems IGN isn't too hot on the Halo webseries, Halo: Nightfall

Halo: Nightfall is easily the most ambitious live-action Halo project to date. Unfortunately, that doesn't automatically make it the best. The awkward special effects are one thing, but the series faces a bigger battle in terms of its bland characters. Hopefully later episodes will do a better job of fleshing out Locke and his team, because there's a lot of potential in this story and its expansion of the Halo mythology.

I rewatched Forward Unto Dawn yesterday, which is a decent enough show. I would love to see a series that could match the quality of the Alan Wake live-action series Bright Falls.

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#33 Shewgenja
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@uninspiredcup said:

@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

That may possibly be the funniest thing I've read in System Wars all year! Holy shit man.

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@funkmaster1233 said:
@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

Have fun while it lasts, the moment Soony do anything remotely decent we will never hear the end of it.

let me guess, Uncharted 4, right? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

cows need a new game...badly.

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#35  Edited By R3FURBISHED
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@uninspiredcup said:

@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

....?

How do you not know what is in a fajita? How do you cook something without knowing what it is?

You really are as bad in real life as you are in this forum!

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#37 kingtito
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@brucebenzing said:

You have a link for anyone actually hyping the Halo TV show?

He won't. He's just a butthurt cow posting anything and everything negative about MS and the XOne. He's just moooing it up as usual. Pathetic

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

B/c no one fishes for bad Playstation news and then posts it here.

Cows always playing the victim. "buh buh buh buh they did it to us 1st" Just a bunch of jokes is what cows are.

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@uninspiredcup said:

@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

Funny, but that just shows you don't know what you are talking about. The Halo "universe" includes 6 games, 6 books, 2 graphic novels, 1 Anime movie, and 1 live action miniseries.

Again, ignorance is no excuse for being a dick.

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#40  Edited By TigerSuperman
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Odd how 5 other websites not the verge say they like it but this one source is enough to conclude it's off to a bad start.

Of course, I'm not interested in the Tv show but at least try to get more opinions.

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I can't wait to see how it plays out. If it's shit, then so be it. It could be one of those shows that actually turns itself around.

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@kingtito said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@SecretPolice said:

So, still nothing to play or say about PS4 eh, I suppose with all this fishing for X1 bad news the box is living up to being.... The PSBore. :P

B/c no one fishes for bad Playstation news and then posts it here.

Cows always playing the victim. "buh buh buh buh they did it to us 1st" Just a bunch of jokes is what cows are.

None of what you said is true.

If both parties are doing it....then no one can play the victim.

No one said anyone started it.

Be childish...but don't lie.

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#44 musicalmac  Moderator
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Too bad. Guess MS shuttering the TV ambition doors makes more sense, though.

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#45 Rictshard
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@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

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It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

Funny, but that just shows you don't know what you are talking about. The Halo "universe" includes 6 games, 6 books, 2 graphic novels, 1 Anime movie, and 1 live action miniseries.

Again, ignorance is no excuse for being a dick.

There's actually about 13 books, some of them were kind of bleh like Kilo 5 trilogy, some of them were fantastic like the Forerunner Trilogy.

Halo Escalation is the comic series currently running and I'm digging it. Especially since it's going to tie into Halo 5.

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#46 lostrib
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The premiere got a 6.3 from IGN

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#47  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@lostrib said:

The premiere got a 6.3 from IGN

So that's a 2, then.

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#48  Edited By Tighaman
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All of them except for one is a Halo fan they think Halo is some of the worst sci-fy ever written why would you think their minds would change for a series? I will just wait until I get it in my own hand next week.

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#49  Edited By RR360DD
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FYI, this isn't the TV show. It's a digital series, 5 episodes I think, hence the low budget.

The TV show is the one being produced by Spielberg. We haven't seen anything about it yet

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#50  Edited By StormyJoe
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@rictshard said:

@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@StormyJoe said:

@uninspiredcup said:

It's about a man in a motocross helmet shooting pokemon.

The man has nothing to work with.

Just because you don't like the Xbox brand doesn't mean you have to be an ignorant dick. The games have a decent story and there are several books and a live action miniseries (web) to draw from.

My friend, I'm going to be making old el paso fajitas in about 20's minutes time, whatever is in them, probably has more substance than Halo.

Funny, but that just shows you don't know what you are talking about. The Halo "universe" includes 6 games, 6 books, 2 graphic novels, 1 Anime movie, and 1 live action miniseries.

Again, ignorance is no excuse for being a dick.

There's actually about 13 books, some of them were kind of bleh like Kilo 5 trilogy, some of them were fantastic like the Forerunner Trilogy.

Halo Escalation is the comic series currently running and I'm digging it. Especially since it's going to tie into Halo 5.

I did not know there were that many, thanks for the update. I got the Forerunner Trilogy as a present, but I haven't read it yet.