Halo Wars sells more than Killzone in America and on it's way to million mark

its natural for people to buy anything that is halo, considering how many people buy, play, and worship anything concerning the series.

rorskarch

So, this thread is a complete falsehood. SQUALL18, we are on to you.

Your link proves this thread is a complete wash, but hey, most didn't read your link, so I guess your mission was accomplished, yay!

So, this thread is a complete falsehood. SQUALL18, we are on to you.

Your link proves this thread is a complete wash, but hey, most didn't read your link, so I guess your mission was accomplished, yay!

SolidTy

I can only imagine the number of Halo fans that bought the game just for the Halo 3 maps.

Eddie-Vedder

Both games are great, I like Halo Wars more though, only because I hate Killzone's controls, it just feels way to clunky and that's not good.

So what I'm getting from the article is that HW sold 250k first day and is expected to hit 1M. No where in that article did it say HW is outselling KZ2. :| Oh...and vgchartz? Seriously?

Anything halo that doesn't sell at least a million is either really bad or not halo at all. Sucks for KZ though, that's alot of effort with not as expected results in terms of sales.

Espada12

I expected KZ2 low sales, it offers nothing new, it is just another extremely linear shooter in the million

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Anything halo that doesn't sell at least a million is either really bad or not halo at all. Sucks for KZ though, that's alot of effort with not as expected results in terms of sales.

obamanian

I expected KZ2 low sales, it offers nothing new, it is just another extremely linear shooter in the million

I'm surprised. I thought the RTS genre would scare some fans. As the TC said, good for Ensemble. IronBass

Tack the word Halo on it and ppl will shovel it up by the thousands. I bet alot of people dont even know what the game is, they just see halo and they buy it,

Better proof then any that games can sell on name alone. Silent-Hal

Halo must be good name then!

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

I can only imagine the number of Halo fans that bought the game just for the Halo 3 maps.

-Sniper99-

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Better proof then any that games can sell on name alone. Silent-Hal

why not.?

This games sale rate can't be completely attributed to the Halo name as it's obvious not all FPS and Halo fans are picking it up by the bucket load like Halo 2, 3. So obviously they know it's not an FPS. People were given a chance to download the demo and find out for themselves.

Don't you find it strange thatthe next halo title was demoed out and only 2 million was downloaded, if there was knowledge it was an FPS it would have garnered a much larger download record.

It's very accessible RTS game, and it's a given the Halo brand name is big. So what? Instead of Cows getting all jealous and defensive about soem RTS game with the "Halo name" on it why don't they support and buy KZ2 more?

well....?

i've read that halo wars is the best selling console rts game now, i guess thats good. i hope killzone2 continue to sell even if it didn't break any records

Its Halo...it could be a card game and it would still sell millions :PII_Seraphim_II

Probably. Though the Halo universe is large enough to expand into defferent genres and media.

Novels, RTS, movies(supposed to anyway), FPS, MMO(Ensemble were working on an MMO), Graphic novels, Macfarlane toys.

Halo is popular- Cows just can'tand probably will never accept it.

somehow this doesn't seem fair, i mean fairplay to ensemble, but halo wars is rubbish compared to killzone 2, what are all the ps3 owners doing? there are 17 million ps3's out there, don't they want the top title on there console, to all ps3 owners, get off your backsides and buy a copy of KZ2, FPS>RTS on consoles.delta3074

Maybe because -Halo is not that rubbish? and KZ2 is not the glorified Hype fest FPS genre big daddy it was hyped up to be?

and how can you compare and RTS to an FPS anyway?

Have you noticed some of the posts from the past couple of months that even some Cows were lukwarm about KZ2?

What's more sad- Cows not buying there games, but criticising lemmings forbuying and supportingtheres?

it is just another extremely linear shooter in the millionobamanian

Seriously though is anyone surprised a 360 game selling more then a PS3 game? Some are trying to blame it on the Halo name but look at the PS3 software sales, million + sellers, and compare sales for multiplats with 360 Vs PS3 and the PS3 is last in all the software areas.rybe1025

Shovelware FTL?! There are probably a lot more deeper and engaging RTS out there. Hmmm Starcraft 2 FTW.

[QUOTE="iam2green"]i'm not surprised on that. i think it is because of the halo name is on it. i think a quarter or half of the people who bought the game thought it was actually a shooter game instead of a RTS. i wouldn't be surpiced to see a lot of used halos at gamestop. i think just wait until another month or so and killzone will do better.CreepyBacon

Thus the damage control begins. It's really really sad now guys:

You convinced yourselves it was a bad game due to GS score, fair enough. Go with your silly rule system, I don't care.

You convinced yourselves KZ2 was the best shooter ever to hit the gaming world. You're mistaken that title doesn't belong to KZ or Halo in my book but if it helps you sleep at night, go on beliving that.

You convinced yourselves it was the game that'll wipe the 360 off the face of the planet. Getting a bit stupid now.

And finally, you're now resorting to "WELL MOST OF THEM THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOOTER AND THEY'LL RETURN IT."

:|

Really? Seriously?!

I can say no more, I'd get banned for pointing out how silly you are.

I agree.

This just smack of desperation from Cows.

I've been hearing in and out for months of how great KZ2 is going to be- Comparing it to Crysis graphics, it's gameplay better the CoD 4, and being a Halo Killer.

Then there's the pre-emptive strike on HaloWarsThe RTS is being lambasted for being on a console (with some hermits joining into), but as well as having the Halo name on it as well and then every hater completely relies onGamespot's assesment to justify not having an RTS game on a console.

Now that we're here. KZ2 that's been hyped and well known for what 3-4 years? Can't even eclipse a game that's taken all kinds of criticism- It's a console rts. It has Halo on it, It's too simple, Gamespot reviewed it bad.... and the best that it can do is be on par with it?

Then there's all the other excuses on top that.

"It's the lazy developers, The economy, The console is more expensive PS3/Xbox360( I don't know anymore which is more expensive-Sony says it's the Xbox- Cows say it's because of the PS3's price), It's the Casuals, MS buys DLC, ...What other complaints and excuses are there?

So what's the actual problem? How therecome there arn't thatmany Cows buying KZ2? Isn't KZ2 meant to be Sony's "Halo"?

I mean the graphics are Wow!!!!! so ...what's the deal?

There's definately something wrong here

Because I don't see

so where does it say it's selling more then KZ2?

da_illest101

[QUOTE="no_handlebars"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I feel bad for Guerrilla. They should've went multiplat.

Floppy_Jim

I feel bad for Ensemble too!

My buying Halowars LEsupports them in a way. I have posted on they're forum how much I loved the game

They have earned a fan here and hope the staff members and new studio continue to make good RTS games.

I'm holding out for the Halo Extreme Volleyball game. :P

FragTycoon

Halo as a fighting or beatem'upgame could workout.:)

Dead or alive had a female Spartan and controlled pretty good.LOL

The best Idea-------A SPARTAN avatar FTW!!!!!!

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I'm holding out for the Halo Extreme Volleyball game. :P

AdmiralBison

Halo as a fighting or beatem'upgame could workout.:)

Dead or alive had a female Spartan and controlled pretty good.LOL

The best Idea-------A SPARTAN avatar FTW!!!!!!

75% who bought the game had no idea it was an RTS or had no idea what RTS stands for.

MS is smart with commercials.

ZoomZoom2490

at least 2 million people know the game is not not an FPS -based on the demo downloaded.

Now, where did you get that 75% statistic from?

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm surprised. I thought the RTS genre would scare some fans. As the TC said, good for Ensemble. DeadMan1290

What happens if that is not the case in 2-3 months?

What's the next excuse?

yeah andKZ for the PSP is KZ3since wereusing this logic

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

I can only imagine the number of Halo fans that bought the game just for the Halo 3 maps.

violent_spinal

Just goes to show how much people like Halo 3!! :)

I bought the collector's edition of Halo Wars today. Loving it so far. I know a surprising amount of people that bought Halo Wars after playing the demo even though they aren't fans of RTS's.II-FBIsniper-II

That's a good thing and I do not doubt thats what Ensemble had in mind. was to make the game accessible to those aare not familiar with RTS gamesor find them to daunting.

Regardless of what some hardcore RTS fans, Haters or Cows say- This is good for RTS games on consoles now.

Hopefully RTS developers will study how HaloWars goes and try to implement and improve the controls scheme with out sacrifcing the "simplicity" of it what has become a hit for console players.

Either they build an RTS from ground up for the Xbox360, or make a console version of their RTS games.

Once again- congratulations Ensemble.

With an IP like Halo you would expect it to sell over a million tbh.skrat_01

KZ2 from its looks and hyped the way it is for 2+ years , you would it expect it too.

what a surprise a "halo" game sells lots of copies

sillaris

What a surprise the Halo haters.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

I'm holding out for the Halo Extreme Volleyball game. :P

Prydes

Halo as a fighting or beatem'upgame could workout.:)

Dead or alive had a female Spartan and controlled pretty good.LOL

The best Idea-------A SPARTAN avatar FTW!!!!!!

LOL.

MS or Bungie has stated only if it makes sense in the Halo universe.

Just for laughs though there's no stopping putting key characters from Halo into other games or genres.

Iron master Chief cooking game.

Viva Grunt parties. YAyyyy!!!! - Actually, that would be pretty fun- Grunts are pretty cute.

[QUOTE="Prydes"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

Halo as a fighting or beatem'upgame could workout.:)

Dead or alive had a female Spartan and controlled pretty good.LOL

The best Idea-------A SPARTAN avatar FTW!!!!!!

AdmiralBison

LOL.

MS or Bungie has stated only if it makes sense in the Halo universe.

Just for laughs though there's no stopping putting key characters from Halo into other games or genres.

Iron master Chief cooking game.

Viva Grunt parties. YAyyyy!!!! - Actually, that would be pretty fun- Grunts are pretty cute.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="Prydes"] Halo Tennis and Halo Party. Don't forget Halo Kart.ImOldGreg

LOL.

MS or Bungie has stated only if it makes sense in the Halo universe.

Just for laughs though there's no stopping putting key characters from Halo into other games or genres.

Iron master Chief cooking game.

Viva Grunt parties. YAyyyy!!!! - Actually, that would be pretty fun- Grunts are pretty cute.

LOL

Halo, who goes there?!! -It's Silent Hill type horror game featuring the Flood

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

[QUOTE="iam2green"]i'm not surprised on that. i think it is because of the halo name is on it. i think a quarter or half of the people who bought the game thought it was actually a shooter game instead of a RTS. i wouldn't be surpiced to see a lot of used halos at gamestop. i think just wait until another month or so and killzone will do better.AdmiralBison

Thus the damage control begins. It's really really sad now guys:

You convinced yourselves it was a bad game due to GS score, fair enough. Go with your silly rule system, I don't care.

You convinced yourselves KZ2 was the best shooter ever to hit the gaming world. You're mistaken that title doesn't belong to KZ or Halo in my book but if it helps you sleep at night, go on beliving that.

You convinced yourselves it was the game that'll wipe the 360 off the face of the planet. Getting a bit stupid now.

And finally, you're now resorting to "WELL MOST OF THEM THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOOTER AND THEY'LL RETURN IT."

:|

Really? Seriously?!

I can say no more, I'd get banned for pointing out how silly you are.

I agree.

This just smack of desperation from Cows.

I've been hearing in and out for months of how great KZ2 is going to be- Comparing it to Crysis graphics, it's gameplay better the CoD 4, and being a Halo Killer.

Then there's the pre-emptive strike on HaloWarsThe RTS is being lambasted for being on a console (with some hermits joining into), but as well as having the Halo name on it as well and then every hater completely relies onGamespot's assesment to justify not having an RTS game on a console.

Now that we're here. KZ2 that's been hyped and well known for what 3-4 years? Can't even eclipse a game that's taken all kinds of criticism- It's a console rts. It has Halo on it, It's too simple, Gamespot reviewed it bad.... and the best that it can do is be on par with it?

Then there's all the other excuses on top that.

"It's the lazy developers, The economy, The console is more expensive PS3/Xbox360( I don't know anymore which is more expensive-Sony says it's the Xbox- Cows say it's because of the PS3's price), It's the Casuals, MS buys DLC, ...What other complaints and excuses are there?

So what's the actual problem? How therecome there arn't thatmany Cows buying KZ2? Isn't KZ2 meant to be Sony's "Halo"?

I mean the graphics are Wow!!!!! so ...what's the deal?

There's definately something wrong here

Because I don't see

Do you really believe games won't sell on name alone?

There are tons of examples in history. Bad Mario/Pokemon/etc. spin-offs, the 50 cent game, the crappy Guitar Hero DS games... Educated consumers tended to stay away from these because they sucked, but they still sold well because not everyone is an educated consumer.

I honestly don't think that many people thought it was a shooter, that's just crazy. People that were halo fans bought the game, people that played the demo bought the game, and people that wanted the Mythic Maps bought the game (me).

8.2 Average isn't bad, I don't think that Killzone 2 had enough marketing to sell (look at all of the Halo Wars commercials and signs).

This is quite a fanboy argument to be honest. How can these sales be compared when both games are on separate platforms. How can Killzone 2 deserve to be bought more, when 360 owners don't have the choice in getting it in the first place and the same with Halo Wars.

If both games were on the same console it could be argued, otherwise this is like comparing the sales of a PC game to a console game, its meaningless. Some times games are meant to go head to head, but these weren't. Not even Sony care, they can't even be bothered to market Killzone 2 as a system seller, they are just letting it sell it self.

On the advertising side of things, I don't know about the US, but it might help if Sony got off its butt and tried some better marketing, its almost non existant in the UK compared to Xbox marketing.

Talking about brand names, wasn't Killzone 2 hyped completely off its brand name, regardless of its outcome, its a bit ironic to be pointing the finger now. Without the Killzone hype you could chop off quite a bit of its early sales.

i think halo wars probably deserves it. before halo wars i hated all strategy games but it was just so easy to get into and the controls were really well implemented. killzone 2 was a good game but personally i would say great. looks-wise its probably one of the best out there along with assasins creed. but i just didnt like the gameplay too much.R_MAHIL

[QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm surprised. I thought the RTS genre would scare some fans. As the TC said, good for Ensemble. bri360

Tack the word Halo on it and ppl will shovel it up by the thousands. I bet alot of people dont even know what the game is, they just see halo and they buy it,

I'm guessing you don't have a 360, correct? Probably 98% of the people who bought Halo Wars knew what they were buying. It's been all over the dashboard the past month and a half. There was a demo, did you hear about it?

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Thus the damage control begins. It's really really sad now guys:

You convinced yourselves it was a bad game due to GS score, fair enough. Go with your silly rule system, I don't care.

You convinced yourselves KZ2 was the best shooter ever to hit the gaming world. You're mistaken that title doesn't belong to KZ or Halo in my book but if it helps you sleep at night, go on beliving that.

You convinced yourselves it was the game that'll wipe the 360 off the face of the planet. Getting a bit stupid now.

And finally, you're now resorting to "WELL MOST OF THEM THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOOTER AND THEY'LL RETURN IT."

:|

Really? Seriously?!

I can say no more, I'd get banned for pointing out how silly you are.

WAIW

I agree.

This just smack of desperation from Cows.

I've been hearing in and out for months of how great KZ2 is going to be- Comparing it to Crysis graphics, it's gameplay better the CoD 4, and being a Halo Killer.

Then there's the pre-emptive strike on HaloWarsThe RTS is being lambasted for being on a console (with some hermits joining into), but as well as having the Halo name on it as well and then every hater completely relies onGamespot's assesment to justify not having an RTS game on a console.

Now that we're here. KZ2 that's been hyped and well known for what 3-4 years? Can't even eclipse a game that's taken all kinds of criticism- It's a console rts. It has Halo on it, It's too simple, Gamespot reviewed it bad.... and the best that it can do is be on par with it?

Then there's all the other excuses on top that.

"It's the lazy developers, The economy, The console is more expensive PS3/Xbox360( I don't know anymore which is more expensive-Sony says it's the Xbox- Cows say it's because of the PS3's price), It's the Casuals, MS buys DLC, ...What other complaints and excuses are there?

So what's the actual problem? How therecome there arn't thatmany Cows buying KZ2? Isn't KZ2 meant to be Sony's "Halo"?

I mean the graphics are Wow!!!!! so ...what's the deal?

There's definately something wrong here

Because I don't see

Do you really believe games won't sell on name alone?

There are tons of examples in history. Bad Mario/Pokemon/etc. spin-offs, the 50 cent game, the crappy Guitar Hero DS games... Educated consumers tended to stay away from these because they sucked, but they still sold well because not everyone is an educated consumer.

Those examples fail because there has never been a Mario demo, a Pokemon demo, there was never a 50 Cent demo (I don't even think there was one for BoTS even with demos almost becoming the norm) and there was never a demo for GH DS. The reason these games sold well is because of name, but also because nobody had anything to go on. There wasn't a whole month dedicated to news for these games on their systems and they certainly didn't have a demo that broke records for downloads.

Stop making excuses. Like I said early, probably 98% of the people, if not all, who bought it, knew what they were getting.

[QUOTE="bri360"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]I'm surprised. I thought the RTS genre would scare some fans. As the TC said, good for Ensemble. RobNBankz

Tack the word Halo on it and ppl will shovel it up by the thousands. I bet alot of people dont even know what the game is, they just see halo and they buy it,

I'm guessing you don't have a 360, correct? Probably 98% of the people who bought Halo Wars knew what they were buying. It's been all over the dashboard the past month and a half. There was a demo, did you hear about it?

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Do you really believe games won't sell on name alone?

There are tons of examples in history. Bad Mario/Pokemon/etc. spin-offs, the 50 cent game, the crappy Guitar Hero DS games... Educated consumers tended to stay away from these because they sucked, but they still sold well because not everyone is an educated consumer.

RobNBankz

Those examples fail because there has never been a Mario demo, a Pokemon demo, there was never a 50 Cent demo (I don't even think there was one for BoTS even with demos almost becoming the norm) and there was never a demo for GH DS. The reason these games sold well is because of name, but also because nobody had anything to go on. There wasn't a whole month dedicated to news for these games on their systems and they certainly didn't have a demo that broke records for downloads.

Stop making excuses. Like I said early, probably 98% of the people, if not all, who bought it, knew what they were getting.

Well, that's a nice guess, however, you realize that MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of 360 gamers don't have Online access, right?

ANYWAYS, the TC lied, the OP is bunk. His threads are misleading, I wonder if he really does work for a company to post on boards.

Link

Not bad, I personally LOVE both games. Though, I think Killzone 2 deserves WAY more sales for its beautiful design.

Anyways, good for Ensemble's swan song :) Supposed to hit a million in the coming weeks coming the highest selling rts

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

Link

Not bad, I personally LOVE both games. Though, I think Killzone 2 deserves WAY more sales for its beautiful design.

Anyways, good for Ensemble's swan song :) Supposed to hit a million in the coming weeks coming the highest selling rts

itzagir

Read the Link, Squall18 is not telling the truth, this thread is bunk, I am surprised so many quote him without at least viewing the link.

[QUOTE="itzagir"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

Link

Not bad, I personally LOVE both games. Though, I think Killzone 2 deserves WAY more sales for its beautiful design.

Anyways, good for Ensemble's swan song :) Supposed to hit a million in the coming weeks coming the highest selling rts

SolidTy

Read the Link, Squall18 is not telling the truth, this thread is bunk, I am surprised so many quote him without at least viewing the link.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Read the Link, Squall18 is not telling the truth, this thread is bunk, I am surprised so many quote him without at least viewing the link.

exiledsnake

What a fantastic outlook you have, seriously. Thanks, you made my day! (Seriously, you need to keep that kind of attitude, it's awesome.)