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and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genBuryMeindeed.
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]Sheep think that because the wii and the ds both have a gimmick ,success in one automatically translates to success in the other.tarzanellI don't think I've ever heard anyone say that.:lol:
Parallels can't be drawn?Yes paraelles can be drawn. however, sheep make it seem as if one leads to automatic success in the other. like, theres no point even having the 360 and ps3 because the ds is beating the psp.
Surely there are some attributes that can carry over into both markets.
karicha9
and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genBuryMeBingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.
[QUOTE="karicha9"]Parallels can't be drawn?Yes paraelles can be drawn. however, sheep make it seem as if one leads to automatic success in the other. like, theres no point even having the 360 and ps3 because the ds is beating the psp.
Surely there are some attributes that can carry over into both markets.
shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]Sheep think that because the wii and the ds both have a gimmick ,success in one automatically translates to success in the other.tarzanellI don't think I've ever heard anyone say that.
[QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genHeedleGlavinBingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
funny, because the results so far seem to be carrying over to the consoles. Just face it, same basic philosophy on both fronts by each competitor, same results, more or less.MronoCThree months of results.
i agree with you, its not the power of the console nor the innovation thats sells it its the games.Maybe, but game for game, i dont think the wii matches up.
but what you stated in 3 "you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3" this is nothing but pure opinions. i like the line up for all 3 systems but the wii's line up interests me more, see i can make opinions aswell :P Mitazaki
you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3. Basically, every genre is dominated by either the 360 or ps3.
*cough*opinions*cough*
[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Past =/= Presentok explain to me htf that has anything to do with my post thnx.
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shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genshadow_lord_11Bingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]Past =/= Presentok explain to me htf that has anything to do with my post thnx.
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Blackbond
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genHeedleGlavinBingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
Sheep think that because the wii and the ds both have a gimmick ,success in one automatically translates to success in the other. Im here to set the record straight.Here's what we got in order: 1. This is the first time Nintendo has had real competition in the handheld market. The PSP was only kept floating by many many danboys running around buying them up... then selling them away. 2.The competition has never really been a problem for hand-held Nintendo, so why was the PSP blown away even though it was wayyyyyy better? The "gimmick". 3. Funny thing is, cows can't stop pointing oiut the percentage of DS games that are subpar or below the PSP games. So by grade, they aren't better... I guess it might be something about how they are different? 3a. MP3 will be against Assassins Creed 3b. Excite Truck is way more fun than any other racer right now, just wait for Burnout on Wii 3c. I'm not sure what shooters are coming out against Halo, and MGS is a unique game (anything going against it would be a rip off) 4. Last time I checked, Rayman was a a multiplat. abd it made it to the Wii just fine. Same for Call of Duty. 5. I don't know where you live, but my family wasn't ruch enough to go out and buy everyone the same thing in the house because kids weren't taught to share. But if parents are rich enough to buy two handhelds, why not two consoles? I mean the PSP was 250 at one point too you know. 6. All of N handhelds come out half-way through the consoles life. Basically, the use them to transition to the next console. NES-GB-SNES-GBC-N64-GBA-GC-DS-Wii-??? In conclusion, I would like to say that due to the commonallities of the DS and Wii and their seemingly twin-like success, it would be a rash decision to say that there is nothing similar in the markets.
1. First off, the handheld market has two competitors, the console market had three. Thats is itslef is a big ifference
2. You think the DS is selling well because of its gimmick? look at the ds's best games. With the exception of Nintendogs, thy dotn even use the stylus to any great extent.
3. The DS has a better game lineup than the psp. that is what is pushing sales. You sheep act like the wii will win because they both have a new device. you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3. Basically, every genre is dominated by either the 360 or ps3. What action game will wii throw against assassins creed and ninja gaiden? What racer will it throw against Forza and GT? What shooter will it throw against halo? What will it throw against MGS?
4. the wii isnt even getting the high production multiplats :| say goodbye to games like oblivion, rainbow 6, assassins creed, mercs 2, army of two, shadowrun, etc.
5. You have to take into account the accessibility of handhelds. In a family of multiple children, EACH CHILD will likely have a handheld of their own. i speak from expereicne that all of the children in my family have handhelds of their own. whereas a console will serve the whole household.
6. GBA is the best selling gaming device ever? look how successful that made gamecube :roll:
in conclusion, i'd just like to say that now matter how sheep try to convince themselves, just because both they are similar in that they have a gimmick to them, handhelds=/=console. end of story.
shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]Past =/= Presentok explain to me htf that has anything to do with my post thnx.
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shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genshadow_lord_11Bingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genshadow_lord_11Bingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]and cows need to remember that last gen's sales don't mean high sales this genshadow_lord_11Bingo. To the TC: You lost with #2. It's fairly obvious that you've never played a DS to any extent.i meant critically acclaimed as in Advance wars, mario kart and the like.
[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]i agree with you, its not the power of the console nor the innovation thats sells it its the games.Maybe, but game for game, i dont think the wii matches up.
but what you stated in 3 "you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3" this is nothing but pure opinions. i like the line up for all 3 systems but the wii's line up interests me more, see i can make opinions aswell :P shadow_lord_11
no offence but thats got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard, serious to say "its more suited for party games and the occasional mario and metroid" true there is alot of party games for the wii but there is also new ips and other games been made that have potential to be great game. Sadness, No More Heroes, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors, Forever Blue and yes even Dewy's Adventure(well some might not think much of this but i think theres a good chance it good be good)
all 3 consoles have great up coming games but it all depends on tastes and opinions.
[QUOTE="Arnalion"]Brain Age is the top selling game and it's a stylus game.shadow_lord_11sales dont make it the best game.
Maybe, but game for game, i dont think the wii matches up.[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"]i agree with you, its not the power of the console nor the innovation thats sells it its the games.
but what you stated in 3 "you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3" this is nothing but pure opinions. i like the line up for all 3 systems but the wii's line up interests me more, see i can make opinions aswell :P Mitazaki
no offence but thats got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard, serious to say "its more suited for party games and the occasional mario and metroid" true there is alot of party games for the wii but there is also new ips and other games been made that have potential to be great game. Sadness, No More Heroes, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors, Forever Blue and yes even Dewy's Adventure(well some might not think much of this but i think theres a good chance it good be good)
all 3 consoles have great up coming games but it all depends on tastes and opinions.
exactly.3a. i fail to see how MP3 will compete with asassins creed they arent even the same genreThen what kind of games are against Assassins creed? I though it was an adventure game... since I haven't played it. Any one saying any gamesis better than another is always an opinon. That is true for every game review and critical thought on a game. RAYMAN ISN'T A BIG NAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And it is on all platforms right now (even coming to xbox360) I don't understand the thing about the two consoles response. When you title your topic: Handhelds =/= consoles sheep. We tend to think that there are no similarities between them.
3b Excite truck may be more "fun" but a) thats an opinion anyway and b) no racing enthusiast would choose excite truck over stuff like forza
Rayman was a wii game first then ported was it not? either way, rayman isnt exactly would i would consider a big name multiplat. Certainly not anywhere near the scale of the games i listed.
Parents arent willing to buy two consoles for the simple reason that they can play multiple people at a time.
i never said the market werent similar, im just saying that the common assumption amoung sheep is largely incorrect.
shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]3a. i fail to see how MP3 will compete with asassins creed they arent even the same genreThen what kind of games are against Assassins creed? I though it was an adventure game... since I haven't played it. Any one saying any gamesis better than another is always an opinon. That is true for every game review and critical thought on a game. RAYMAN ISN'T A BIG NAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And it is on all platforms right now (even coming to xbox360) I don't understand the thing about the two consoles response. When you title your topic: Handhelds =/= consoles sheep. We tend to think that there are no similarities between them.assassins creed is an action adventure, MP3 is a FPA with shooting. they play nothing alike. games like assassins creed, zelda, and god of war fall into the same cadegory, MP falls in more with the shooters as far as gameplay goes.
3b Excite truck may be more "fun" but a) thats an opinion anyway and b) no racing enthusiast would choose excite truck over stuff like forza
Rayman was a wii game first then ported was it not? either way, rayman isnt exactly would i would consider a big name multiplat. Certainly not anywhere near the scale of the games i listed.
Parents arent willing to buy two consoles for the simple reason that they can play multiple people at a time.
i never said the market werent similar, im just saying that the common assumption amoung sheep is largely incorrect.
coreygames
shouldnt you be telling Sony that?
cuz it seems they're were trying to release the PSP as a console competitor
at least, thats what the ports and load times were telling me
assassins creed is an action adventure, MP3 is a FPA with shooting. they play nothing alike. games like assassins creed, zelda, and god of war fall into the same cadegory, MP falls in more with the shooters as far as gameplay goes.Oh, I thought AC was going to be first person... wait, Zelda doesn't match up to it? Rayman may not inspire gaming greatness to you, but it is still a big name in the business. A lot of people can relate the name Rayman to videogames. Ok, I get what you are saying about the console/hand-held thing now. Ok You shouldn't have misleading titles, I got modded for that once.
no, rayman isnt a big name. Hearing rayman doesnt exactly inspire thoughts of gaming greatness.
for the two consoles : a family wouldnt buy two of the the same console because of price, and because they can be used simultanouesly by multiple people. a handheld can only be used by one at a time, so each child can have thier own.
the title was just a attention grabber.
shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="Metroid_Time"]Don't 5 million sales kind of.... you know, disagree with your entire post?shadow_lord_11nope.
3. The DS has a better game lineup than the psp. that is what is pushing sales. You sheep act like the wii will win because they both have a new device. you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3. Basically, every genre is dominated by either the 360 or ps3. What action game will wii throw against assassins creed and ninja gaiden? What racer will it throw against Forza and GT? What shooter will it throw against halo? What will it throw against MGS?
4. the wii isnt even getting the high production multiplats :| say goodbye to games like oblivion, rainbow 6, assassins creed, mercs 2, army of two, shadowrun, etc.
shadow_lord_11
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]assassins creed is an action adventure, MP3 is a FPA with shooting. they play nothing alike. games like assassins creed, zelda, and god of war fall into the same cadegory, MP falls in more with the shooters as far as gameplay goes.Oh, I thought AC was going to be first person... wait, Zelda doesn't match up to it? Rayman may not inspire gaming greatness to you, but it is still a big name in the business. A lot of people can relate the name Rayman to videogames. Ok, I get what you are saying about the console/hand-held thing now. Ok You shouldn't have misleading titles, I got modded for that once.Zelda does theorectically match up to AC in terms of appeal and gameplay, but the problem with zelda is that by time Ac is releassed, zelda would have been a year old last gen title. and only god knows when the next zelda will be.
no, rayman isnt a big name. Hearing rayman doesnt exactly inspire thoughts of gaming greatness.
for the two consoles : a family wouldnt buy two of the the same console because of price, and because they can be used simultanouesly by multiple people. a handheld can only be used by one at a time, so each child can have thier own.
the title was just a attention grabber.
coreygames
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]
3. The DS has a better game lineup than the psp. that is what is pushing sales. You sheep act like the wii will win because they both have a new device. you forget that the wii game lineup is complete trash at this point. and even in the future, only a blind sheep would say that the wii has a better game lineup than the 360 and ps3. Basically, every genre is dominated by either the 360 or ps3. What action game will wii throw against assassins creed and ninja gaiden? What racer will it throw against Forza and GT? What shooter will it throw against halo? What will it throw against MGS?
4. the wii isnt even getting the high production multiplats :| say goodbye to games like oblivion, rainbow 6, assassins creed, mercs 2, army of two, shadowrun, etc.
StealthSting
[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"]Don't 5 million sales kind of.... you know, disagree with your entire post?Metroid_Timenope.
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