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#1 tarzanell
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I won't bring PCs into this, but everything about handhelds screams superiority to me. The pick up and play nature of some games, the hours-long immersion of the console ports, and the best games that do both are all demonstrative of, in my opinion, the higher status of handhelds. To boot, most of the cla ssics have been brought to over to the DS and PSP.

Who's with me? Or am I talking out of my rear?

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#2 DarkStraberry
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Wow! bold statement there
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#3 Stats_
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I can't begin to describe how much i disagree with that statement.

There is barely any fun to be had on handhelds imo.

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#4 wayne_kar
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handheld own consoles when im sat on the toilet or on a bus. but other than that i like my games on my 50" screen with my 5.1 badass speaker system

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#5 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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theDS is arguably the best system this gen

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#6 chikenfriedrice
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on the road or a plane sure...but at home? naw never

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#7 DaBrainz
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I've always said (at least since 2006)

PC>DS>Consoles.

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#8 uyiop0t
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No, sorry, but handhelds are basically 6-year old technology in the palm of your hand. Almost everything you can do to the max on a handheld you could do on the TV about 6 years earlier.

I like to see the technology increase, not just be stuck in the past, that's why my favorite systems are always the TV consoles, as opposed to the handhelds.

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#9 Stats_
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People actually rate the DS above consoles?

Whoa whoa whoa. I have no idea what's going on.

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#10 kidcool189
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on the road or a plane sure...but at home? naw never

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ironically the only time i play my DS is at home but ya, handhelds have been fantastic these past years, though not sure if i can agree they beat out consoles
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#11 finalfantasy94
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I cant agree at all. Handhelds at least for me are only used when your traveling or your somewhere you dont have acess to a console. Consoles are more important to me at least.

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#12 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I use both consoles and handhelds extensively, and I completely disagree. While there are great handheld games out there, not have had the scope and incredible experience as a console game.

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#13 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

People actually rate the DS above consoles?

Whoa whoa whoa. I have no idea what's going on.

the DS has tons of great games. whats there not to understand?
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#14 kidcool189
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No, sorry, but handhelds are basically 6-year old technology in the palm of your hand. Almost everything you can do to the max on a handheld you could do on the TV about 6 years earlier.uyiop0t
except for, you know...the majority of games themselves, the most important aspect of it all

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#15 HermitGTX
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I disagree

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#16 Cherokee_Jack
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There is barely any fun to be had on handhelds imo.Stats_
Surprising how so many people find them fun, then.
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#17 SolidTy
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Personally, I have multiple DS's and PSP's, and all the consoles...but I think I enjoy my consoles more. Sorry.

Lot's of fun to be had with the handhelds though, don't get me wrong, I just have more fun with all the consoles.

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#18 savetehhaloz
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How are handhelds supposed to be superior to consoles? They use old technology and the games made for them are scaled down.
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#19 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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They are different, and both types of gaming satisfy me equally.
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#20 HermitGTX
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Graphics and controls are horrible on handhelds and any type of MP on handhelds usually is horrible as well

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#21 tarzanell
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I use both consoles and handhelds extensively, and I completely disagree. While there are great handheld games out there, not have had the scope and incredible experience as a console game.

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See, to me gameplay has always been of greater importance, and I rarely see superior gameplay ideas on consoles. After all, with the crappy dated tech that handheld developers must use, they need ingenuity to get anywhere. I mean, how awesome was it to be using a touch screen and mic for the first time in Phantom Hourglass? Or seeing how well Ready at Dawn crammed GoW onto the PSP? Or being able to play Mario Kart ONLINE on the can? I won't argue, cinematics are infinitely superior on consoles, but with few exceptional games, I stand by my OP.
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#22 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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They're different things, I enjoy em both a lot. The beautiful thing is, I get to enjoy great games at home, and on the go. Double win.
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#23 tarzanell
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They're different things, I enjoy em both a lot. The beautiful thing is, I get to enjoy great games at home, and on the go. Double win.siLVURcross
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I hate consoles. I'm in the same boat as you, double win for me too. I just realised how much more time I've sunk into my DS and PSP than anything else over the last 3 years.
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#24 shadowcat2576
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I don't know as if they are better on the whole, but I do know that if I could only keep one of my systems it would be my DS. I've put in so much time with Professor Layton, Pheonix Wright, Zelda, Hotel Dusk, and Puzzle Quest alone.

I find it interesting how so many people claim they only like Handhelds for gaming on the go, when I play mine almost exclusively at home. I wonder if it's a generational thing. I like my DS and PSP because I can sit in the livingroom and be with other people while they watch tv, read, are whatever, as opposed to dominating the tv or isolating myself in another room to play a console.

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#25 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]There is barely any fun to be had on handhelds imo.Cherokee_Jack
Surprising how so many people find them fun, then.

Yes, it's very suprising people have opinions that differ to mine. It's almost like they have a mind of there own :o

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#26 batman_is_aweso
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ds proly is the best system this gen with some of the best exclusives yet i still think mgs4>any ds exclusive

it goes in terms of exclusives

pc>>>>ds>>>>ps3>wii=xbox 360

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#27 SemiMaster
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There is no hand held game that I ever chosen to play over any console game unless I am somewhere I cannot actively use my console. The only two or three substantial hand held games I've ever played were both rereleases of a Square game, namely FF4 and Tactics : War of the Lions.

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#28 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Stats_"]There is barely any fun to be had on handhelds imo.Stats_

Surprising how so many people find them fun, then.

Yes, it's very suprising people have opinions that differ to mine. It's almost like they have a mind of there own :o

Well, see, phrasing it like "barely any fun to be had" implies that you don't think a handheld owner can have any fun with their system. Obviously this is not true.

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#29 Shoooryuken
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pokemon
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#30 aroxx_ab
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Yeah you talk from your rear... games should be played on a big screen with 5.1+ sound with good controls.

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#31 racing1750
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The DS may have a huge libary, but console games have more epic moments, better online, better everything, except you can't carry them wherever you go :P
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#32 3KindgomsRandy
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I can't begin to describe how much i disagree with that statement.

There is barely any fun to be had on handhelds imo.

Stats_

Total agreement. If handhelds disappeared tomorrow, my world would be a little brighter.

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#33 Dystopian-X
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I don't enjoy handhelds that much. I do enjoy thew exclusive titles that I have no other choice to but to play on them but I hate that devs. force me to play a certain series on them.

The only possibly worse thing than a handheld is a gaming cellphone.

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#34 r-teest
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I don't know as if they are better on the whole, but I do know that if I could only keep one of my systems it would be my DS. I've put in so much time with Professor Layton, Pheonix Wright, Zelda, Hotel Dusk, and Puzzle Quest alone.

I find it interesting how so many people claim they only like Handhelds for gaming on the go, when I play mine almost exclusively at home. I wonder if it's a generational thing. I like my DS and PSP because I can sit in the livingroom and be with other people while they watch tv, read, are whatever, as opposed to dominating the tv or isolating myself in another room to play a console.

shadowcat2576

Exactly. I feel the same way.

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#35 Gxgear
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As the owner of both handhelds, I'd have to say the crappy D-pads and analog/stylus controls hurts the experience.

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#36 tarzanell
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[QUOTE="shadowcat2576"]

I don't know as if they are better on the whole, but I do know that if I could only keep one of my systems it would be my DS. I've put in so much time with Professor Layton, Pheonix Wright, Zelda, Hotel Dusk, and Puzzle Quest alone.

I find it interesting how so many people claim they only like Handhelds for gaming on the go, when I play mine almost exclusively at home. I wonder if it's a generational thing. I like my DS and PSP because I can sit in the livingroom and be with other people while they watch tv, read, are whatever, as opposed to dominating the tv or isolating myself in another room to play a console.

r-teest

Exactly. I feel the same way.

This pretty much sums it up for me too. Excerpt I think they're better on the whole ;)
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#38 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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The portability is nice, but other than that, I've just never been able to get into handhelds. Too small a screen and too limited in terms of power. I just cant spend hours hunched over a small handheld. Plus it doesnt have the selection of games that I like. Nothing wrong with them, but I prefer consoles.

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#39 Aquat1cF1sh
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As someone who has divorced parents who switches homes a lot... I must say I agree. :D
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#40 Hexagon_777
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I spend far more time on my DS than on my Wii or PS3 so I agree with you.

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#41 Juken7
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I prefer consoles by a huge margin, but I can see why some people would prefer handhelds. Still, you shouldn't say it like it's fact they are completely superior.

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#42 OreoMilkshake
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How are handhelds supposed to be superior to consoles? They use old technology and the games made for them are scaled down. savetehhaloz
Scaled down from what?
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#43 felipebo
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I won't bring PCs into this, but everything about handhelds screams superiority to me. The pick up and play nature of some games, the hours-long immersion of the console ports, and the best games that do both are all demonstrative of, in my opinion, the higher status of handhelds. To boot, most of the cla ssics have been brought to over to the DS and PSP.

Who's with me? Or am I talking out of my rear?

tarzanell

Outrageous claims demand outrageous evidence, you know. As for classics, have seen the Wii's shop? And PSN has PS1 classics. And, in my opinion, its hard (but not impossible) to get immersed in portables.

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#44 Yandere
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I agree if we're talking about the consoles of this generation.

But I doubt you will get much support with all this bias against handhelds here.

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#45 Ribnarak
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Pokemon is the only game seriesu need to mention and thats it, no one can go against you TC. :P

i loved playign that on my GBA

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#46 MassMayham57_
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Im not into playin my games with bad graphics, tiny screen, bad controls and pretty much no online support

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#47 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Surprising how so many people find them fun, then. Cherokee_Jack

Yes, it's very suprising people have opinions that differ to mine. It's almost Ilike they have a mind of there own :o

Well, see, phrasing it like "barely any fun to be had" implies that you don't think a handheld owner can have any fun with their system. Obviously this is not true.

I've noticed people on System Wars get very upset when you post something they disagree with. Hence why after that line i wrote IMO, quite clearly.

In my opinion there is little fun to be had. If my opinion effected the world, then what youwrote may have some meaning.

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#48 tarzanell
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Yes, it's very suprising people have opinions that differ to mine. It's almost Ilike they have a mind of there own :o

Stats_

Well, see, phrasing it like "barely any fun to be had" implies that you don't think a handheld owner can have any fun with their system. Obviously this is not true.

I've noticed people on System Wars get very upset when you post something they disagree with. Hence why after that line i wrote IMO, quite clearly.

In my opinion there is little fun to be had. If my opinion effected the world, then what youwrote may have some meaning.

Dude, SW is just full of haters, mainly made up of 360 and PS3 fanboys. I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the mix with this thread, and I honestly thought there would be fewer that agreed with me. I respect everyone's opinion, but wanted to know how the majority thought.

Anyway, for those that need examples, here you go:

1. Mario Kart DS. Arguably the best iteration of the series, this keeps it simple, allows for portable online play, and has a decent amount of unlockables

2. God of War: CoO. The lighting effects and shading may be poorer, but the fact that Ready at Dawn could cram in all onto a handheld and offer an (arguably) equal experience is mind blowing.

3. Zelda: PH and ST. Yeah, the stylus-only met with crankiness, but the gameplay ideas (tracing, blowing into the mic, etc.) were truly original.

4. Chinatown Wars. The music, scope, and life crammed into a portable game arguably equalled GTA4.

5. Any of the best GBA games. Ports of ****cs (NES and SNES gems), and new ideas (e.g. Superstar Saga, Bit Generations, Minish Cap) all made portable = win.

6. Hotel Dusk / Trace Memory / Phoenix Wright: return of the adventure genre. Nuff said?

7. SRPGs: Jeanne D'Arc. Advance Wars. FF Tactics. Disgaea. Fire Emblem. All better than anything consoles have to offer.

I'm not going to list any more, you all know what's good and what isn't. But originality is make or break for me, and portable gaming is the usual outlet for that IMO.

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#49 Kashiwaba
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Personally, I have multiple DS's and PSP's, and all the consoles...but I think I enjoy my consoles more. Sorry.

Lot's of fun to be had with the handhelds though, don't get me wrong, I just have more fun with all the consoles.

SolidTy

Same here I like my PSP and DS but when I play a great game on a console I have more fun than playing a great game on a handheld.

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#50 1080pOnly
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Apples > Oranges

Is this thread serious?