Happy Holidays: Gran Turismo 5 "milkage" and damage
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[QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.Nugtoka
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
wrong,wrong wrong.1. so not all cars in GT5 will have damage leaving a very uneven playing field
2. GT5 prologue can't even get their online racing right... so after 4 years they STILL struggle to get a GT game online? pathetic.
3. selling the exact same game with more cars in less than a year is milking...
4. they need to fix the voicecom in GT games....then again, not every ps3 owner has voicecom so it may be moot...
5.i noticed no mention of an increase in physics parameters meaning they're still at 300 while forza games are at 9,000 (yes, thousand)
6. he lost all cred when he claimed 720p wasn't true hidef... :roll:
very insightful post, tc... :)
tango90101
[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.Adrian_Cloud
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Most of what Kaz said wasn't propaganda. However, saying that 1080p is "Full HD" is propaganda, and considering that GT4 on the PS2 supported 1080p, saying that the 360 somehow can't is absurd.
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.sonicmj1
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Most of what Kaz said wasn't propaganda. However, saying that 1080p is "Full HD" is propaganda, and considering that GT4 on the PS2 supported 1080p, saying that the 360 somehow can't is absurd.
Agreed, but GT4 was upscaled 1080p and so are the majority of 360 games, or there just 720p. Thats probably the major line that buggs people but he explains himself very clear for his reasons on thinking that.
"Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p."
360 launched with no hdmi.
The majority of 360 games are 720p.
Another thing to consider is that Kaz does not take holidays and is commited to his project the likelyness of him playing a lot of 360 games are very very low.
"people will give credit to the strong attractive of Full HD, of the true high resolution. I want to do videogames that take full advantage of each generation's technical abilities."
1080p is the highest possible resolution for this gen tech and T.Vs, computers are a whole different story. I'm sure he knows that 720p, 1080i are all HD(he is not a fool). He is simply pointing out the fact 1080p stands tall among the others.
[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.Adrian_Cloud
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Full HD is a marketing ter. Nothing more. Not only that, the 360 DOES in fact support this Full HD, perfectly fine. So how exactly i this NOT propaganda?
[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.snyper1982
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Full HD is a marketing ter. Nothing more. Not only that, the 360 DOES in fact support this Full HD, perfectly fine. So how exactly i this NOT propaganda?
Does every 360 come with an HDMI? no.
Are the majority of 360 games in 720p? yes.
Was the 360 designed in mind with displaying 1080p graphics? no
"Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p."
That was the part before which simply backs up his opinion.
And he never said 360 couldn't produce full hd graphics. No propaganda...stop taking stuff out of context.
Sounds like PD is trying to polish a turd...
[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.Adrian_Cloud
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Most of what Kaz said wasn't propaganda. However, saying that 1080p is "Full HD" is propaganda, and considering that GT4 on the PS2 supported 1080p, saying that the 360 somehow can't is absurd.
Agreed, but GT4 was upscaled 1080p and so are the majority of 360 games, or there just 720p. Thats probably the major line that buggs people but he explains himself very clear for his reasons on thinking that.
"Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p."
360 launched with no hdmi.
The majority of 360 games are 720p.
Another thing to consider is that Kaz does not take holidays and is commited to his project the likelyness of him playing a lot of 360 games are very very low.
"people will give credit to the strong attractive of Full HD, of the true high resolution. I want to do videogames that take full advantage of each generation's technical abilities."
1080p is the highest possible resolution for this gen tech and T.Vs, computers are a whole different story. I'm sure he knows that 720p, 1080i are all HD(he is not a fool). He is simply pointing out the fact 1080p stands tall among the others.
Full HD, is BS. Plain and simple. He is trying to talk up the PS3, and talk down the 360, using a BS marketing term. Full HD a VAST minority of and already nice market(HDTV) anyways, it will NEVER be a factor in this generation of consoles. Not only that, but the 360 supports it just as well as the PS3. The 360 could not support it from the start as the term did not even EXIST when the 360 launched! It is all a bunch of misleading garbage, hence the reason I labeled it propaganda.
[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="snyper1982"]As soon as he said Full HD, I tuned out the rest. It is all sony marketing propaganda.Adrian_Cloud
Yes exactly more Sony propaganda from another sony only developer where nothing can be done outside the "power of the PS3" how many times have we heard that before???? I can't see how anyone can even take them seriously anymore but the Sony fanboys just love to chew on that cud
I don't know whats more annoying 360 fans taking things out of context or them trying to spin words around in there favour (console exclusive:| ).
Calling this propaganda is ignorance.. how are you willingly going to discredit information that is either proven or educated opinion simply because it goes against your naive beleifs?
Kaz on damage "I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality. "
no bs here, just get over your ego.
Full HD is a marketing ter. Nothing more. Not only that, the 360 DOES in fact support this Full HD, perfectly fine. So how exactly i this NOT propaganda?
Does every 360 come with an HDMI? no.
Are the majority of 360 games in 720p? yes.
Was the 360 designed in mind with displaying 1080p graphics? no
"Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p."
That was the part before which simply backs up his opinion.
And he never said 360 couldn't produce full hd graphics. No propaganda...stop taking stuff out of context.
Was 1080P availible when the 360 Launched? No.
Does it now support 1080P. Yes.
Was HDMI finalized when the 360 Launched? No.
Does the majority of PS3 games display in 720P? Yes.
Looks like the all mighty PS3 was designed for 720P according to your criteria.
"It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720P" Not taken out of context. At all. He does not flat out say the 360 doesn't support 1080P. Then again, you don't have to say you hate all black people to spread white propaganda either do you? Get off it. It is his JOB to spread propaganda.
No, it's marketing. Anybody that thinks 720p isn't HD is either:360 fans are so freaken scared...they have nothing on this game...so now they're attacking the president for saying FULL HD...wtf LMFAO.
You see TrueHD on Tv's (SONY, SAMSUNG, Etc.) on TV"s that support 1080p. So yes, TrueHD is 1080p.
-D3MO-
Misinformed
Lying
Or selling 1080p TV's.
It's either HD or it isn't. The only difference is the resolution.
You can smell the bull**** a mile away.
I second the Lair vibe, 'cept I ain't backing this one.
360 fans are so freaken scared...they have nothing on this game...so now they're attacking the president for saying FULL HD...wtf LMFAO.
You see TrueHD on Tv's (SONY, SAMSUNG, Etc.) on TV"s that support 1080p. So yes, TrueHD is 1080p.
-D3MO-
Yes. TrueHD is a mraketing term. Just as I said earlier....
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