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#51 ps3gen
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] I don't know....Phil and Kaz say weird stuff sometimes....I don't take their stranger comments too seriously....



Well then look at their actions. What efforts have they made to secure any third party exclusives in any form?

Sony competed with other publishers for Heavenly Sword, and got it. They bought Zipper and Guerilla Games. They maintain steadfast relationships with Kojima Productions, Level 5 and Square Enix for MGS4, White Knight and Fabula Nova Crystallis. They're developing next-gen sequels like Ratchet, God of War, Getaway, as well as new franchises like Resistance, Uncharted, and Eight Days. They got Oblivion, GRAW2, Saint's Row, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma--franchises which were either exclusive to 360 or were key franchises MS flaunted. Sony is a competitor in this oligopolistic market, and it feels just as strong of an incentive as any other competitor to retain exclusives to push hardware sales.



good read..you forgot to mention Encharted Arms coming to the PS3 as well..If it wasnt important ill see games dropping off like flies from sony library of games..but as i right now i only see them losing a few games Microsoft as well is losin exclusive titles.Elevion was just announced for PS3 too..If Sony can keep the exclusive they WILL  but right now  its hard to keep exclusive until the PS3 is doin a lot better..I hope when they release PS3 in Europe this month they will sell another million and yes with games..lol..also  games like MGS4 and DMC4 will just help PS3 sell better..I think the  2 games i just mention will sell millions on the ps3 of because of its popularity....DMC 1,2. and 3 was never on any other console. and capcom even said they didnt even have any plans at all to released on any other console..MGS 1,2 and  3 is on the the Playstation brand..but MGS 2 was released for the xbox and it did horrible!!!.. so they didnt even bother to put mgs3 on the xbox..lol...I know lemming want dmc4 and mgs4 badly..thats why wishin so hard for it..
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#52 LordAndrew
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Exclusives are very important to Sony, especially since the Xbox 360 had a head start and is less expensive. If a game is available on multiple systems, people are probably more likely to get it for the Xbox 360. They need exclusives to justify purchasing the system. The PlayStation 2 had many exclusive games and it did great, in part due to those exclusives.

The less PS3-only games there are, the less reason there is to slap down $600 and buy the system.

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#53 DireToad
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When you think about it though, I'd say 75% and up of the PS2's exclusive games were from eastern devs.
And although we haven't seen or heard of many new PS3 games in development for some time now, it's not like those same eastern devs are going to jump ship to the 360 because it's doing terrible over there.

We've seen many of those devs go towards the Wii, but I still believe that eastern gamers need both the PS3 and the Wii and cannot only have one or the other.
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#54 cakeorrdeath
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We've seen many of those devs go towards the Wii, but I still believe that eastern gamers need both the PS3 and the Wii and cannot only have one or the other.DireToad


Why?
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#55 LordAndrew
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Some of those eastern devs are starting to support the Xbox 360 though. I think we're going to be seeing more mult-platform games this generation. And that's not a bad thing unless you're a fanboy who finds it necessary for your favourite system to "win".
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#56 donalbane
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Harrison says exclusives are not a priority for the PS3.

Fom Kotaku's live Blog of the SCEA blog congress;

He also says he doesn't think that exclusives are as important.

"I' m not sure that's as big a deal as everyone points out," he said.


What do people think about this? Is he right? Does it matter whether or not games are exclusives as long as there are games?
cakeorrdeath
I think he hopes it doesn't matter because they don't have squat, and they know it. Too bad for him it's the only thing that matters.
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#57 LordAndrew
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]

We've seen many of those devs go towards the Wii, but I still believe that eastern gamers need both the PS3 and the Wii and cannot only have one or the other.cakeorrdeath


Why?

My guess would be that they simply can't afford all of the systems.
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#58 Koolsen
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Its the only thing tahat matters. If yu only have multi-plats why buy a more expensive console for the same games? Its another great Sony qoute anyway...
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]

We've seen many of those devs go towards the Wii, but I still believe that eastern gamers need both the PS3 and the Wii and cannot only have one or the other.cakeorrdeath


Why?



They need both because both are so different from each other.
Some games work on a certain system while others just won't.
And at this point I think it's safe to exclude the 360.

And anyways, it's not like the PS3 and the Wii can have the same multiplats. Well they can but they will probably be western games that eastern gamers wouldn't touch with a 6 foot pole.
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#60 LordAndrew
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I wouldn't exclude the 360. Wii and Xbox 360 make a nice match as well. The Xbox 360 games feature more traditional control methods that won't be going away any time soon.
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#61 oback
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it matters alot
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#62 DireToad
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I wouldn't exclude the 360. Wii and Xbox 360 make a nice match as well. The Xbox 360 games feature more traditional control methods that won't be going away any time soon.LordAndrew


Here yes.

Across the Pacific, not so much at all.
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#63 shadowcat2576
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I know that this is all corprate mindspeak, but come on. Exclusives have always been a very important part of videogames. 1st or 3rd party, exclusives sell consoles. This has been true from  NES/Sega through GC/PS2/X-Box, and it's true to this gen too.

I'm sure a lot of gamers are like I am and buy a console when enough games I want are available. I always get Nintendo systems because of Mario and Zelda, I got my Genesis for the exclusive x-men games and Sonic, TG for Bonk and Ys, PS for FF7, Saturn for Rayearth, PS2 for Kingdom Hearts (waiting on Banjo-Kazooie to decide on 360). Now I buy other games as well, but it takes those few exclusives that I really want to make me shell out the money for the system. For simplicity, I also tend to get multiplats for one system, so I usually end up with one system with a lot of games, and 2 or 3 with only a dozen or so.

If all systems have the same games, why get more than one, and definately why choose the more expensive one. Afterall, when was the last time there was a significant difference between versions of the same game?

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#64 shungokustasu
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Wow I totally miss this one. I like this topic. Phil Harrison is right. *clears throat* I believe that this gen will see a lot of multi-platform games. It's becoming too expensive for the Big devs to handle. What will matter this gen is online content. Micro-Transactions. You heard it from me first. It will not be just about how good a game is, but how long can a good game last. Do you see now how the PS home is setting up Sony nicely? XBL have to get on the ball soon. I expect them to drop the $50 price and do what PS home is doing. So they can also invert MTs and In game advertising. Welcome to the new genration.
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Just as everything else, some of the media is disgustingly blowing things out of proportion.... You should check out IGN. He was speaking regarding GTAIV in particular, not exclusives as a whole.... he pointed out that Sony still has a ton of exclusives.
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#66 jazreal
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LOlolOLolloLOlloLLollOLolOlodOl...ohh that was rich :P  thats just what i would expect someone who has lost most of thier exclusives to say for DAMAGE CONTROL........not unlike a little kid saying.....YOUR NOT MY BUDDY...or....I DIDNT WANT THAT ANYWAY....HMM.  :P
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[QUOTE="LordAndrew"]I wouldn't exclude the 360. Wii and Xbox 360 make a nice match as well. The Xbox 360 games feature more traditional control methods that won't be going away any time soon.DireToad


Here yes.

Across the Pacific, not so much at all.

And even though this is the 360's stronghold, there are still a lot of people here that enjoy having a wider variety of games on their console. I do know quite a few people with a 360.... but I know even more that want a PS3. I'm sure part of it is brand recognition and familiarity with playstation games... but 360 games just aren't as massively appealing. Eventhough Mass Effect is looking pretty sweet right now :-)
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#68 shungokustasu
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LOlolOLolloLOlloLLollOLolOlodOl...ohh that was rich :P thats just what i would expect someone who has lost most of thier exclusives to say for DAMAGE CONTROL........not unlike a little kid saying.....YOUR NOT MY BUDDY...or....I DIDNT WANT THAT ANYWAY....HMM. :Pjazreal
The most stupidest comment ever post on SW is that Sony is lost alot of exclusive. It down right stupid. Sony has over 100+ exculsive titles, yet you think 1-5 is alot
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LOlolOLolloLOlloLLollOLolOlodOl...ohh that was rich :P  thats just what i would expect someone who has lost most of thier exclusives to say for DAMAGE CONTROL........not unlike a little kid saying.....YOUR NOT MY BUDDY...or....I DIDNT WANT THAT ANYWAY....HMM.  :Pjazreal

Except that they've only lost two :roll:. When will fanboys quit blowing things out of proportion? The 360 has lost more exclusives than the PS3 has... why fail to bring that up? Ahhh, yes. Fanboyism, it's a horrible thing. The fact is that Sony still has the most exclusives coming out this year.

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#70 shadow_lord_11
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I think console exclusivity is very important.

console-pc multiplats are meaningless.
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#71 Darth_Stalin
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He's in damage control mode. Every knows exclusives matter.
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Harrison says exclusives are not a priority for the PS3.

Fom Kotaku's live Blog of the SCEA blog congress;

He also says he doesn't think that exclusives are as important.

"I' m not sure that's as big a deal as everyone points out," he said.


What do people think about this? Is he right? Does it matter whether or not games are exclusives as long as there are games?
cakeorrdeath
If he's really saying that, then he really has lost touch of what gamers are like. Music business is like games? Sony branding and advertising? Premium-charging indie developers for arcade game space? my god... Anyway, imo, exclusives could very well be the determining factor for success. What makes me buy a console over another would be what one offers that the other can't. And it would be the games that'd determine my choice.
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#73 the-very-best
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I think console exclusivity is very important.

console-pc multiplats are meaningless.
shadow_lord_11


No.

It's a major reason Xbox lost last gen.
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#74 jazreal
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[QUOTE="jazreal"]LOlolOLolloLOlloLLollOLolOlodOl...ohh that was rich :P thats just what i would expect someone who has lost most of thier exclusives to say for DAMAGE CONTROL........not unlike a little kid saying.....YOUR NOT MY BUDDY...or....I DIDNT WANT THAT ANYWAY....HMM. :Pshungokustasu
The most stupidest comment ever post on SW is that Sony is lost alot of exclusive. It down right stupid. Sony has over 100+ exculsive titles, yet you think 1-5 is alot

stupidest?????????? are you seriouse????? tell ya what...im not even gonna argue with you in fear of legal matters with minors. cya:)
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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]I think console exclusivity is very important.

console-pc multiplats are meaningless.
the-very-best


No.

It's a major reason Xbox lost last gen.

No its not.
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[QUOTE="jazreal"]LOlolOLolloLOlloLLollOLolOlodOl...ohh that was rich :P  thats just what i would expect someone who has lost most of thier exclusives to say for DAMAGE CONTROL........not unlike a little kid saying.....YOUR NOT MY BUDDY...or....I DIDNT WANT THAT ANYWAY....HMM.  :PSgt_Hale

Except that they've only lost two :roll:. When will fanboys quit blowing things out of proportion? The 360 has lost more exclusives than the PS3 has... why fail to bring that up? Ahhh, yes. Fanboyism, it's a horrible thing. The fact is that Sony still has the most exclusives coming out this year.

2??? you wanna check your sources again. and you wanna give some proof on your claims of who has lost the most??? and sony has more coming out this year.........what planet are you on bro.....and im a FANBOY.....you lost me on that one. cya :P
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#78 Blackbond
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If he thinks exclusives don't matter then Sony is gonna lose this generation because xbox has always been where its at for the majority of superior multiplat gaming.
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Why should they be? They already God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, etc...
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Why should they be? They already God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, etc... skixwolf
That is a good point. I can't wait for info on the new Ratchet and Clank.
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[QUOTE="Gears360"]hahahaha poor sony they drown in damage control

I nominate this man for Gamespot Poster of the Year. His posts are so eloquent and of such brilliant quality.
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Hmm well when a product costs more then the competition I have to say that, well.................. Yes! IMO of course that it does matter if not as a hole then definitely to me.
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] I don't know....Phil and Kaz say weird stuff sometimes....I don't take their stranger comments too seriously....



Well then look at their actions. What efforts have they made to secure any third party exclusives in any form?



Sony still has more million selling exclusive franchises from past consoles on it's platform than the other two put together.
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#85 StealthSting
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Well there is always a bright side to this. If this will not fall into 3rd party support this time around for Sony, its first party is definitely growing with alot of quality titles. So it could definitely be worst. Will just have to wait and see how this hole ordeal will turn out.
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#86 axt113
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Games are not a priority for the PS3, just Second life ripoffs and Blu-ray, they're going for that 4th dimension, they have no time for games
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You need exclusives so it will give you a reason to get a particular console. If all games were on all consoles then why pay $600 when $400 is just fine for the same games. You HAVE to have them or you will lose to your competition. This is a business after all you know. The reality is that a great exclusive can sell millions of consoles and millions of games so that's why it is important.
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This is the same guy who said Rumble was "last gen"

That pretty much puts this latest statement into perspective.
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#89 hellsing321
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Uh Yeah, I'd say exclusives are pretty important. But I'm no executive so what do I know.
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#90 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Uh Yeah, I'd say exclusives are pretty important. But I'm no executive so what do I know.hellsing321


A helluva lot more than Mr Harrison obviously :lol: :lol:
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]I think console exclusivity is very important.

console-pc multiplats are meaningless.
shadow_lord_11


No.

It's a major reason Xbox lost last gen.

No its not.

to elaborate on your responce. the Xbox lost because PS2 had more console exclusives and the Japanese apparently dont really like american consoles. I did not lose because of ports to PC. and even if it did hurt Xbox sales who do you think let Halo go to PC? who makes money off a game played windows?
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Gears360"]hahahaha poor sony they drown in damage control

I nominate this man for Gamespot Poster of the Year. His posts are so eloquent and of such brilliant quality.



ooooo, that just gave me a paraphrasing idea;

"the thousand contradictions of the Sony empire descend upon you. Our damage control, will blot out the sun!!"

"then we will take exclusives in the shade"
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#93 mwa
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Harrison says exclusives are not a priority for the PS3.

Fom Kotaku's live Blog of the SCEA blog congress;

He also says he doesn't think that exclusives are as important.

"I' m not sure that's as big a deal as everyone points out," he said.


What do people think about this? Is he right? Does it matter whether or not games are exclusives as long as there are games?
cakeorrdeath

more sony damage control
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#94 joeblak
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They are a priority. Otherwise, what compelling reasons would there be to purchase a PS3 over a 360?
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#95 Nike_Air
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Sorry , but I didn't read anyones comments in this thread ........but I know people are confronting Phil about GTA IV. Rockstar probably used the fact that there would be a lot more 360s out there when this game dropped and that it was going to sell amazingly well there so they probably asked Sony for an INSANE , INSANE , INSANE amount of compensation for that. Obviously Phil is doing some major damage control here , but they probably had to make a tough choice on that one an let it go.

Deep down they know that exclusives are important ........ but I am sure he is just handling his business like most people do on this board when things don't go well.




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#96 blitzinger123
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I believe we're getting Heavenly Sword, MGS4, BigLittlePlanet (not sure if that's a contender) and DMC4. What more "exclusives" do people want? GTA IV? Phil is basically saying that while he wants the PS3 community to grow, he wants game developers to have funds to support their own companies and when games such as GTA IV go multi platform, theres more money involved to make new and more innovative games, such as bully which is an exclusive
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#97 TheCrimsonKoopa
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Why the hell should I get a PS3 instead of a 360? 'teh home 3d myspace11!1'.