Has A FPS Ever Surpass 007(N64) Yet? 3rd person> 1st person Shooters

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Single analogue was bad.

All of those FPS games on the N64 would have been so much better if they where made for the PSX and the original dualshock.

organic_machine

But it was playable. And it was enjoyable. I am not saying single is better than dual, it's not. But some people act like single cannot be enjoyed and that's just wrong.

Goldeneye with a 360 controller is so much better.

Try it sometime.

Except Perfect Dark > 007. So case closed. The 9.9 speaks for itself. organic_machine

funny how alot of ppl are using PC games in their arguments. But come on, FPS on console was non existence before 007. Also alot of console gamers wernt PC gamers so they missed out on those Dooms and other stuff.PSP107

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.Juggernaut140

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.Skittles_McGee

Yeah... about 100 of them.

What I don't understand is how people can look back in time and say with a straight face that X game is better than something from now. The leap in technology only increases the quality of games. They may not be as "deep" but they are far better as an overall, refined package.foxhound_fox

Don't even go there. Most games out today, especially FPS's, can't match up to Half-Life 2, which is over 4 years old at this point. They have trouble even matching up to Half-Life 1.

I'm surprised you made that comment, actually. Being a huge Castlevania and Metroid fan, I'd have thought you felt the opposite way.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Perfect Dark>>>>>>>>Both of thoseThe_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] In terms of content, definitely. In terms of gameplay, no. PD's gameplay is far too archaic.jg4xchamp

Nope! :D

PDZ Rocks mah socks!

Wow, I guess some people will never realize that the Half-Life series and all its off-shoots (Portal, Team Fortress, Counter-Strike) are the greatest FPS' ever made...svetzenlether

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Yeah... about 100 of them.

What I don't understand is how people can look back in time and say with a straight face that X game is better than something from now. The leap in technology only increases the quality of games. They may not be as "deep" but they are far better as an overall, refined package.svetzenlether

Don't even go there. Most games out today, especially FPS's, can't match up to Half-Life 2, which is over 4 years old at this point. They have trouble even matching up to Half-Life 1.

I'm surprised you made that comment, actually. Being a huge Castlevania and Metroid fan, I'd have thought you felt the opposite way.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Even as a massive Perfect Dark fanboy (check the sig and avatar for proof of that :P), I must second this. The_Game21x

Nope! :D

PDZ Rocks mah socks!

Don't even go there. Most games out today, especially FPS's, can't match up to Half-Life 2, which is over 4 years old at this point. They have trouble even matching up to Half-Life 1.

I'm surprised you made that comment, actually. Being a huge Castlevania and Metroid fan, I'd have thought you felt the opposite way.

svetzenlether

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] and the part where you won't admit PDZ sucks :Pmitu123

Nope! :D

PDZ Rocks mah socks!

[QUOTE="PSP107"]before 007, who ever heard of FPS?Cherokee_Jack

How about the 10 billion people who played Doom?

well of course except perfect dark , or timesplitters 2 and 3 for that matter, 1 to a certain degree, ,

because all 5 ofthese games were handled by the main goldeneeye team lol,

and yea i agree none has so far surpassed it, quantum on wii , is the closest thing your going to get, as far as a refreshing expeirence goes in the fps genre, any wii game can take this honor, but do they really really stack the odds, no, close but no cigar,

dont even mention any ps3 360 title because , lets just say split screen is thrown away,

and without that its hard to compare goldeneye pd or timesplitters to anything now adays, sure theres cod (thats war so i dont think we should compare them to each other, ) and pd0 which we all know is nothing compared to pd64,

theres quake 4 but again cant compare its develish style to the story driven secret agent type mission based game, known as goldeneye pd or timesplitters. and please dont mention halo ,halo is much comparable to killzone or unreal ,,

as that is a futuristic game where as goldeneye wasnt, pd and ts are a mix,

so it varies , ts1 is more like goldeneye 2 is like goldneeye but it included pd like futuristic weapons, there for its a mixture of both worlds, same for 3 ,

and pd 64 , goldeneeye is compareable to the 4 others because they do the same thing, they are mission driven each one of these also didnt have a vehicle in multiplayer except ts3 and pd /ts3 in single player thats about al you can say is like halo other then that,

halo is a doom /quake hexen etc type game , with a mixture of futuristic weapons and so forth,

so no ., honestly after timesplitters 3 ive yet to play a fps, that matches and or surpass goldeneye pd or ts fun and style ,

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Nope! :D

PDZ Rocks mah socks!

The_Game21x

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Yeah... about 100 of them.

What I don't understand is how people can look back in time and say with a straight face that X game is better than something from now. The leap in technology only increases the quality of games. They may not be as "deep" but they are far better as an overall, refined package.svetzenlether

Don't even go there. Most games out today, especially FPS's, can't match up to Half-Life 2, which is over 4 years old at this point. They have trouble even matching up to Half-Life 1.

I'm surprised you made that comment, actually. Being a huge Castlevania and Metroid fan, I'd have thought you felt the opposite way.

And guess what. Half Life 2 was as great as it was by advancing the genre from what it's predeccessors did before it. Just like Golden Eye was until HL2 came along. Just like Doom was until Golden Eye came along. It's to be expected that newer games build upon the foundation created by their predecessors and refine the core game mechanics while also expanding with newer ones.

It's a never ending cycle, and todays champion eventually becomes yesterdays fond memory in light of the dazzling newcomer that looks for how to outshine it. And sorry to say, nostalgia does not hold back evolving standards.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]before 007, who ever heard of FPS?Cherokee_Jack

How about the 10 billion people who played Doom?

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]before 007, who ever heard of FPS?Roushrsh

How about the 10 billion people who played Doom?

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

PSP107

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^ Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake all had a much bigger influence. They basically created the FPS genre and mods/user generated content and full 3D and multiplayer both LAN and online.

Goldene Eye is the Holy Grail of Console FPS! Perfect Dark is just perfection of the Holy Grail.Dibdibdobdobo

i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all.PSP107

007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS?PSP107

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.PSP107

Anyway, I can see why people still cling to the games of old, but Goldeneye? You'd be hard pressed to find a game that has aged as poorly; it is awful when compared to modern shooters.

While it was 'revolutionary' back in its day.

This:

Hasn't aged particulary well. And I'm not just talking about the graphics.

Goldeneye while fun, is quite possibly one of the most overrated FPS's of all time.And it certainly hasn't aged well. So to answer the TC's question:

Yes, many console FPS' have surpassed Goldeneye. Particularly the ones that have come out in this current generation of consoles and it was never as good as most PC FPS's, even back then.

Everything on PC owns that silly game, consoles however....No not yet.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Everything on PC owns that silly game, consoles however....No not yet.Spartan070

I honestly dont understand the hate for PDZ. I had 100 times more fun with it than i did COD4 and Halo 3unknown37

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

Juggernaut140

I wouldnt say anger, but more of pity. PS2 era was very drab IMO. nes-n64 era were gold eras for console gamming, during the ps2 era i mainly played PC games because there was so much goodness comming out then! While ps2 was lacking imo, i played some socom, gta, and other greats but i cant see people actually starting to become gammers during that time, idk maybe im just remembering the nes being better then it was, but i dont think so

3rd person shooters surpassed fps

Except Perfect Dark > 007. So case closed. The 9.9 speaks for itself. organic_machine

007 was beaten before it even released by Doom and Wolfenstein 3D on the PC back in the early 1990's. :)

Not even mentioning the original Unreal Tournament, Quake, etc. games.

Except Perfect Dark > 007. So case closed. The 9.9 speaks for itself. organic_machine