Has blizzard lost it?

they used to be one of my favorite companies. I know they got bought out by activision. But watching the diablo 3 footage i'm actually quite unimpressed. I'm surprised actually because i'm usually the first person to say if it's blizzard it's awesome. Same with alot of the recent changes to wow. They used to have a real knack for marketing to the masses but it almost seems to me like theya re getting too big for their britches or something and are doing things that didn't make them the company they were in the first place suddenly. Plus ive had issues with their support and everything in between.

i dont have anything to say about wow but d3 looks like d2 but better.

I don't think Blizzards take our time ot make it good plan fits in with Activisions MAKE MONEY NOW plans.

I don't think Blizzards take our time ot make it good plan fits in with Activisions MAKE MONEY NOW plans.

Blixxed

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

I don't think Blizzards take our time ot make it good plan fits in with Activisions MAKE MONEY NOW plans.

Blixxed

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

Aku101

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

Aku101

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

naval

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

Aku101

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

Aku101

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

What's interesting if you don't count expansions they used to release a new game like every year. They havent released a new game in like 5 years now. They used to come up with new games. They had warcraft. They came out with diablo and then starcraft.

Not counting expansions

Warcraft 1994

Warcraft II 1995

Diablo 1996

Starcraft 1998

Diablo 2 2000

Warcraft 3 2002

World of Warcraft 2004

They haven't released a completely new game in like 5 years. It will be 6 when they come out. It's been 11 years and 9 years respectively since they expanded on starcraft and diablo. They havent come up with a new franchise in 11 years. I sense milkage a bit.

What's interesting if you don't count expansions they used to release a new game like every year. They havent released a new game in like 5 years now. They used to come up with new games. They had warcraft. They came out with diablo and then starcraft.

Not counting expansions

Warcraft 1994

Warcraft II 1995

Diablo 1996

Starcraft 1998

Diablo 2 2000

Warcraft 3 2002

World of Warcraft 2004

They haven't released a completely new game in like 5 years. It's been 11 years and 9 years respectively since they expanded on starcraft and diablo. They havent come up with a new franchise in 11 years. I sense milkage a bit.

Walker34

well they've been milking wow with expansions for the last 5 years. that much is apparent.

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

Aku101

well they've been milking wow with expansions for the last 5 years. that much is apparent.

Walker34

well they've been milking wow with expansions for the last 5 years. that much is apparent.

Walker34

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[QUOTE="naval"] except that in the last 10 years they have made 8 games 6 of which have been AAA and 2 AA and that their games are still played till the next iteration is outDanm_999

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

Uncharted 2. Co-op, multiplayer singleplayer, cinema mode plus a slew of other content.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

Aku101

Uncharted 2. Co-op, multiplayer singleplayer, cinema mode plus a slew of other content.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Expansions don't count. They're practically game patches with a price tag.

Aku101

Uncharted 2. Co-op, multiplayer singleplayer, cinema mode plus a slew of other content.

Firstly, Uncharted 2 isn't out.

Secondly, it's been pegged at what? 15-20 hours in game length? It takes about that amount of time in WOTLK just to level up from 70 to 80.

WOTLK is hundreds of hours of content, literally. Even if you play Uncharted 2 several times, it doesn't even come close. A WoW expansion is just so much larger than is possible to fit on even a Blu-ray disk.

Wow, actually it's only 12-15 hours.

Comparing Uncharted to WoW is just ridiculous! (Blinded Cows)...

Finishing one raid on WoW can take absolutely ages, and then there are more things that you can do, like quests, roleplay, etc, etc. There are also more people playing WoW than the entire population of Cuba.

So, in essence, comparing Uncharted to WoW is just Epic Fail.

So, in essence, comparing Uncharted to WoW is just Epic Fail.

siddhu33

Whats really epic fail is the poeple who play wow and think there hardcore because of it.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

So, in essence, comparing Uncharted to WoW is just Epic Fail.

warmaster670

Whats really epic fail is the poeple who play wow and think there hardcore because of it.

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] I defy you to name me a console only game with more content than WOTLK or TBC. Notsogr8one

Uncharted 2. Co-op, multiplayer singleplayer, cinema mode plus a slew of other content.

Just read his sig and his other posts.

Biased fanboy is biased fanboy end of the story line.

i dont have anything to say about wow but d3 looks like d2 but better.

10MP

Has blizzard lost it?Walker34

Yes.

blizzard dont release much, is taking them forever to what is basically update the graphics on starcraft.

I'd hardly call tbc wtlk a new game. You cant compare the time spent in an mmo to a console game.

if Killing 3000 elementals or flying around trying to beat farmers to mining nodes or herbs is gives you pleasure than so be it, or perhaps doing the same instance over and over hoping for some obscure loot drop, dancing in whatever city is currently the hot spot, getting welfare epics in the arena, ugh *shivers*

Uncharted 2. Co-op, multiplayer singleplayer, cinema mode plus a slew of other content.

Aku101

lol what an awful post, even if most of the content of wow is garbage!

anyway, blizzard does kind of produce games for the same few franchises over and over again. its what theyre good at, just like nintendo.

blizzard dont release much, is taking them forever to what is basically update the graphics on starcraft.kate_jones

I'd hardly call tbc wtlk a new game. You cant compare the time spent in an mmo to a console game.kate_jones

if Killing 3000 elementals or flying around trying to beat farmers to mining nodes or herbs is gives you pleasure than so be it, or perhaps doing the same instance over and over hoping for some obscure loot drop, dancing in whatever city is currently the hot spot, getting welfare epics in the arena, ugh *shivers*

kate_jones

Nothing Blizzard OR VALVE does warrants the time they take, while spear heading features back 10 years ago, these 2 companies for the most part are just in thier safe zones now and quite frankly dont impress anymore.Birdy09

"why fix what isnt broken?" good point, building on old games and ideals is by no means bad, but thier pace is ridiculously slow.Birdy09

Nothing Blizzard OR VALVE does warrants the time they take, while spear heading features back 10 years ago, these 2 companies for the most part are just in thier safe zones now and quite frankly dont impress anymore.Birdy09

"why fix what isnt broken?" good point, building on old games and ideals is by no means bad, but thier pace is ridiculously slow.Birdy09

Nothing Blizzard OR VALVE does warrants the time they take, while spear heading features back 10 years ago, these 2 companies for the most part are just in thier safe zones now and quite frankly dont impress anymore.Birdy09

"why fix what isnt broken?" good point, building on old games and ideals is by no means bad, but thier pace is ridiculously slow.Birdy09

What changes in WoW bugged you?Danm_999

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]What changes in WoW bugged you?Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Danm_999"] Blizzard released a game this year, 2007, 2004, 2003, 2001, 2000 and 1999. How is that insignificant?STurn21

If you have actually played those "expansion packs" you would realize that they are significantly ahead of most standalone titles.

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

What's so good about blizzard? They make a game like every 10 years.

Danm_999

Also, Lord of Destruction expansion for Diablo 2 came out in 2001, so you can add another.

Blizzard has, in a way, lost it. It is partly because of WoW. I'm not saying that WoW is a bad product, far from it. It's just that, previously, Blizzard was a product-orientated, customer-focused company. It released games, and that was it. WoW requires the company to be service-oriented, not product-oriented. The focus on serving the customer was there by the time WoW came out, at least. But the recent stuff, like a three-part StarCraft 2, cutting LAN from StarCraft 2 and so on are clear signs of losing that focus on serving the customers. Whether it's because the StarCraft devs caught the Vision Disease, or because of Kotick's hunger of money, I can't say definitively. It sounds a bit more like the Vision Disease, though.

As WoW progresses the game just gets more casual. It's far too easy to gain rewards, and is way too accessible to bad players, and as such the game is nowhere near as great as the first game was PvP/PvE-wise.

I'm still gonna try out Diablo 3 though since Diablo 2 was awesome way back when I played it. Don't care much for Starcraft 2 though.