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#51 silversix_
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Unplayable.
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#52 lightleggy
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So I recently bought the GOTY Edition of Oblivion, and well, in all honestly, it's boring and monotonous. Five hours in and I have yet to feel like I'm actually having fun (coming from someone whon liked FO3 and NV ALOT). The combat bores me, it really just seems like button mashing, and makes me realize how much I miss the VATS system in this clunky engine. Seriously, blocking and attacking are so clunky. Leveling up seems so out there, I never feel like I'm actually getting stronger. The quests so far have been pretty boring, and I'm in bad need of a house to store my stuff in because I'm overencumbered very often. All that aside, this game just isn't fun to me. And I haven't played Skyrim, so I would hope that's a better experience.

Bad-School-Girl
the game was clunky even in release. it hasnt aged well, not all. dat terrible combat. btw if it helps you: you can drop anything on any house/inn/building, I mean drop it on the floor it will ALWAYS be there.
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#53 jun_aka_pekto
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It's definitely no Skyrim even with Qarl's mod (some images have it, some don't). But, It's okay to me.

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#54 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It's definitely no Skyrim even with Qarl's mod (some images have it, some don't). But, It's okay to me.

jun_aka_pekto

I think he was reffering to the overall game not just the graphics.

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#55 skrat_01
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No. It's a damn poor game.
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#56 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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No. It's a damn poor game.skrat_01

I hope you are referring only to it's state now, because at the time it was quite an amazing game and set the foundations for the superior Skyrim

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#57 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]No. It's a damn poor game.

this.
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#58 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

It's definitely no Skyrim even with Qarl's mod (some images have it, some don't). But, It's okay to me.

OB-47

I think he was reffering to the overall game not just the graphics.

I still wouldn't know since I generally suck at RPGs.:lol: As a newbie, it seems okay to me. He He. But yeah. I'll eventually buy Skyrim.

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#59 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

It's definitely no Skyrim even with Qarl's mod (some images have it, some don't). But, It's okay to me.

jun_aka_pekto

I think he was reffering to the overall game not just the graphics.

I still wouldn't know since I generally suck at RPGs.:lol: As a newbie, it seems okay to me. He He. But yeah. I'll eventually buy Skyrim.

Good choice! Skyrim is pretty much better than Oblivion in every single aspect and even adds some of it's own things into the mix. Plus the game is alot more intuitive and less fussy that Oblivion making it an easier experience for us RPG noobs.

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#60 garrett_duffman
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

It's definitely no Skyrim even with Qarl's mod (some images have it, some don't). But, It's okay to me.

jun_aka_pekto

I think he was reffering to the overall game not just the graphics.

I still wouldn't know since I generally suck at RPGs.:lol: As a newbie, it seems okay to me. He He. But yeah. I'll eventually buy Skyrim.

to be fair, elder scrolls is really barely an RPG. its more like a first person dungeon crawler with a runescape-esque ability leveling system.
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#61 Bad-School-Girl
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[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]

So I recently bought the GOTY Edition of Oblivion, and well, in all honestly, it's boring and monotonous. Five hours in and I have yet to feel like I'm actually having fun (coming from someone whon liked FO3 and NV ALOT). The combat bores me, it really just seems like button mashing, and makes me realize how much I miss the VATS system in this clunky engine. Seriously, blocking and attacking are so clunky. Leveling up seems so out there, I never feel like I'm actually getting stronger. The quests so far have been pretty boring, and I'm in bad need of a house to store my stuff in because I'm overencumbered very often. All that aside, this game just isn't fun to me. And I haven't played Skyrim, so I would hope that's a better experience.

lightleggy
the game was clunky even in release. it hasnt aged well, not all. dat terrible combat. btw if it helps you: you can drop anything on any house/inn/building, I mean drop it on the floor it will ALWAYS be there.

Are you serious??:0
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#62 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"] [QUOTE="gMcR"]

What's wrong with VATS?

Bad-School-Girl

^^These.

Oh, and OP I havent played Oblivion, but I played Skyrim and im in the same boat as you. I ran out day one to get Skyrim solely because I heard it was just like Fallout. (I also loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

Elder Scrolls just isnt the same as Fallout IMO. I find the world to be boring, monotinous, uninteresting, and just "been there, done that". That, and the gameplay is underbaked. The biggest thing is that the world of Elder Scrolls (IMO) just lacks the immersion that Fallout has.

Exactly! The world just isn't interesting to explore. And the gameplay makes it so much worse.

oblivion world was terrible. I NEVER explored, hated when I had to WALK to a location instead of just using fast travel. never entered a single cave, too damn boring and hard, it doesnt help that monsters level with you and are usually godlike in front of you...seriously groups of more than 3 monsters would always be major rape for me.
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#63 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]No. It's a damn poor game.OB-47

I hope you are referring only to it's state now, because at the time it was quite an amazing game and set the foundations for the superior Skyrim

At the time it was a terribly flawed game that did absolutely nothing well other then giving players the opportunity to muck about a loosely simulated medieval fantasy world. Which is all the more glaring in retrospect.
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#64 RyviusARC
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Oblivion ages well visually when you add mods. It certainly looks a lot better than the console version of Skyrim. And before anyone makes some comment on choice of characters I will remind you that you can mod them how you like.....
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#65 metal_zombie
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Haven't played the fallout games, but pausing the game every fight and going through the vat system sounds like it would get really old really fast.

topgunmv
you dont have to use vats if you don't want to
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#66 campzor
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havnt played it..but from pictures/videos...it loosk monotonous and boring beyond belief
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#67 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]Oblivion ages well visually when you add mods. It certainly looks a lot better than the console version of Skyrim. And before anyone makes some comment on choice of characters I will remind you that you can mod them how you like.....

is there mods like this for skyrim that make more like jrpg?
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#68 RyviusARC
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"] is there mods like this for skyrim that make more like jrpg?

Yes there is just look around. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/index.php
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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]Oblivion ages well visually when you add mods. It certainly looks a lot better than the console version of Skyrim. And before anyone makes some comment on choice of characters I will remind you that you can mod them how you like.....

Wow, that does look better than Skyrim on consoles.
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#70 PinnacleGamingP
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TC, make sure if your playing it on console, to get it on the PS3.. it is once again the superior multiplat version, the 360 version looks and runs like garbage, like most other multiplats.
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#71 Vesica_Prime
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Some parts of Oblivion weren't that good from the start i.e level-scaling, copy-paste environments and dungeons, fast respawning treasure and enemies.

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#72 wis3boi
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What's wrong with VATS?

gMcR
:lol: Pause, target head three times, win, repeat.
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#73 NeonNinja
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Oblivion has not aged well.

Fallout 3 sucks.

Fallout: New Vegas is a masterpiece.

Replay New Vegas. It's better than Oblivion and Fallout 3.

That is all.

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#74 jg4xchamp
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It would have had to been great the day it came out, and when it came out it was so boring.
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#75 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Lol no
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#76 waltefmoney
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Still one of the best RPG's this gen, fuuuuck the haters.

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#77 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Oblivion has not aged well.

Fallout 3 sucks.

Fallout: New Vegas is a masterpiece.

Replay New Vegas. It's better than Oblivion and Fallout 3.

That is all.

NeonNinja

I like this kid.

Seriously, the writing, the quests, the character and the world of NV are miles ahead of Fallout 3. The only thing that brings it down is it's kinda dated engine

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#78 gamebreakerz__
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Skyrim is quite a bit better. Oblivion was just trash.DragonfireXZ95
Meh I preferred Oblivion.... But both are crap compared to Morrowind.
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#79 mysticstryk
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It aged very poorly on the consoles. It came out about 4 months after the 360 first launched. Now on the PC, that is a completely different story. With all the amazing high quality mods, you can make oblivion look and play better than skyrim.

Seriously, some of the graphics mods are insane, better than crysis even.

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#80 Ondoval
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]No. It's a damn poor game.skrat_01

I hope you are referring only to it's state now, because at the time it was quite an amazing game and set the foundations for the superior Skyrim

At the time it was a terribly flawed game that did absolutely nothing well other then giving players the opportunity to muck about a loosely simulated medieval fantasy world. Which is all the more glaring in retrospect.

Every side quest in Oblivion is better than in Skyrim: Dark Brotherhood, Thieve Guild, Mague Guild, Fighter's Guild... is better that his counterpart in Skyrim, and Oblivion is still better game than any jrpg in the current generation -outside Dark Souls-.

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#81 WilliamRLBaker
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I love oblivion so yes its aged well.

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#83 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]

So I recently bought the GOTY Edition of Oblivion, and well, in all honestly, it's boring and monotonous. Five hours in and I have yet to feel like I'm actually having fun (coming from someone whon liked FO3 and NV ALOT). The combat bores me, it really just seems like button mashing, and makes me realize how much I miss the VATS system in this clunky engine. Seriously, blocking and attacking are so clunky. Leveling up seems so out there, I never feel like I'm actually getting stronger. The quests so far have been pretty boring, and I'm in bad need of a house to store my stuff in because I'm overencumbered very often. All that aside, this game just isn't fun to me. And I haven't played Skyrim, so I would hope that's a better experience.

Bad-School-Girl

. the game was clunky even in release. it hasnt aged well, not all. dat terrible combat. btw if it helps you: you can drop anything on any house/inn/building, I mean drop it on the floor it will ALWAYS be there.

Are you serious??:0

yup, same on skyrim, just drop anything anywhere, it never dissapears. there are also public chests, join a guild and use one of the chests they have in the rooms

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#84 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]Oblivion ages well visually when you add mods. It certainly looks a lot better than the console version of Skyrim. And before anyone makes some comment on choice of characters I will remind you that you can mod them how you like.....

why is it that all these mods seem to be designed by perverts?
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#85 FlamesOfGrey
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Yup, I perfer it to Skyrim. All of the quest writing outside of the main quest in Skyrim is far inferior to the writing in Oblivion. I also like Oblivion's world more. Skyrim has a better stats system and improved combat but they tweaked the leveling system that I loved in Oblivion where your enemies leveled up with you. Skyrim has improvements since it is the newer game like more variety in the voice acting but it doesn't beat Oblivion for me.
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#86 FlamesOfGrey
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Some parts of Oblivion weren't that good from the start i.e level-scaling, copy-paste environments and dungeons, fast respawning treasure and enemies.

Vesica_Prime

Skyrim has that too just less noticable. I found around 330 locations on Skyrims maps and you will see that. You can't avoid that when having that many locations.

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#87 DraugenCP
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It shows its age in the sense that Skyrim improves upon it gameplay-wise in nearly every way. So especially if you've played Skyrim first, Oblivion will definitely seem like a step backwards. However, I still find it one of the most enjoyable games I have installed on my computer, and even after having played tons of Skyrim, I still feel an urge to go back to that game.

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#88 fadersdream
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Download some anime models. I have a feeling you'll like those.

-Unreal-
or buy a white van, and sit outside of a pre-school.
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#89 Goyoshi12
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Here's some advice in general, TC.

Just play the game and make up your own mind. As you can see some people like the game while others hate it, I don't know which boat I'm in (for one thing I don't have the game) but you could be in a completly different boat than the haters or in a different boat than the lifeboat likers. It's just varying tastes. What I will say is that no game is really timeless game unless you make it timeless; every game out there (unless every single sequel is crap but again that is varying opinions and tastes) has somehow aged rather poorly. It's just practically factual information really, every old game has old game mechanics that were new at the time sure but fastforward several years later when dozens or a couple of sequels had been made and play those and you will notice that the old games do indeed have old mechanics that worked back then, sure, but now...meh.

Also, System Wars is one place on GameSpot that has hatred towards certain games (for instance, SW is not really a big fan of Oblivion or GTA 4) so we're the wrong crowd to be asking. Play the game, I say, first play it and think of yourself as a 2006 player looking at this game for the very first time then skip over 6 more years and then determine how you feel it has aged. It's what I'm doing with Morrowind, I play it half as a 2002 teen looking at such a game for the first time and it's quite fantastic and then I skip ahead 10 years later and there are certainly things that have aged rather well but also things that have aged rather poorly. So it's all varying tastes and opinions, don't listen to the haters (or likers for that matter) and instead play the game and decide what to do afterwards. While it may sound like you're missing out on mods since you don't have the PC version you do get one bonus: You can return the copy.

Either way, it's a win-win or a win-lose depending on how the game is so, play it for yourself and see how it is. That is all.

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#90 Maroxad
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With mods, it has aged extremely well. But otherwise it was pretty lousy, even at launch.

  1. Conflicting action and RPG elements. The action elements detracted from the RPG elements and vise versa.
  2. HP Bloated enemies, which would also be an issue with Skyrim unless you abused crafting. There is a reason the combat in Dark Souls and M&B is so good.
  3. Repetitive environments and dungeons.
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#91 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Download some anime models. I have a feeling you'll like those.

fadersdream

or buy a white van, and sit outside of a pre-school.

Haha, laughed out loud at that one. Cheers.

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#92 SkyRaid
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Shivering Isles is awesome...Truly one of the most unique experiences you will find in a game.

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#93 N30F3N1X
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Every side quest in Oblivion is better than in Skyrim: Dark Brotherhood, Thieve Guild, Mague Guild, Fighter's Guild... is better that his counterpart in Skyrim, and Oblivion is still better game than any jrpg in the current generation -outside Dark Souls-.

Ondoval

The sidequests are terrible in Skyrim, true, way worse than Oblivion (and that says a lot).

The gameplay however still pales in comparison to Skyrim's.

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#94 gMcR
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[QUOTE="gMcR"]

What's wrong with VATS?

wis3boi

:lol: Pause, target head three times, win, repeat.

Well the same could be said about Oblivion.

W+M1, win, repeat.

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#95 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="gMcR"]

What's wrong with VATS?

gMcR

:lol: Pause, target head three times, win, repeat.

Well the same could be said about Oblivion.

W+M1, win, repeat.

I never played warrior classes, so i didnt have that issue. One reason I avoid them.
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#96 glez13
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It's basically the same thing as Skyrim. Obviously Skyrim has new things and it's better but in the core they are the same game. I don't understand why people like Skyrim but not Oblivion. Both are awesome.

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#97 wis3boi
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It's basically the same thing as Skyrim. Obviously Skyrim has new things and it's better but in the core they are the same game. I don't understand why people like Skyrim but not Oblivion. Both are awesome.

glez13
the leveling system in Oblivion is far more flawed, i had to go and mod it to get any enjoyment out if it
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#99 locopatho
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Skyrim ruins it. But it was a superb game for its time.
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#100 Stalkerfieldsis
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The better combat and less apparent level-scaling in Skyrim makes it hard to go back and enjoy Oblivion.