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#51 Truebravo
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Now you all be sure to stock up on the tissues... There's going to be alot of mopping up later when Killfizzel 2 bombs. HA!

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#52 piemister
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HALO 3 GRAPHICS>MUDZONE 2

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HAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHAHA i almost fell out my chair laffing

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#53 HAHAHA77
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[QUOTE="michael098"]

[QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"]HALO 3 IS GRAPHICALLY SUPERIOR TO MUDZONE2.ps3rulezzggdff

It is but people don't realise this because of the art-style, halo 3 is colourful, killzone 2 is a going for a more darker, realistic look.

im comparing texture resolutions ground detail/walls.

halo 3 wins not comparing art direction.

Isn't art direction one of the biggest elements of graphics? Would Gears of War be what it is without an art direction?

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#54 newimagejkep
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FISSION MAILED!!!!
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#55 archpro
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[QUOTE="FonkeyMunky7"]

[QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"]HALO 3 IS GRAPHICALLY SUPERIOR TO MUDZONE2.ps3rulezzggdff

Typical fanboys.... Not even a shred of fact or reasoning to back it up... The impressions by professionals said that Killzone 2 looks AMAZING compared to other console games. IGN said it was like they were watching more CGI but it was in-game.

ign said gears of war looks better

That was 1up, the lemming gaming website.

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#56 Spanks113
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Meh I reckon mass effect looks better

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#57 mindz2004
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equal...

killzone didnt wow me although it looks good, on the same par as gears personally.

people wont admit that though as killzone2 is the first game with promise for the ps3.

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#58 Sir_Graham
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Gears of War is still the best looking console game and Alan Wake is probably the best looking upcoming console game. It's hard to judge games that I haven't played though. Bioshock is looking very sharp too.
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#59 dikidkid
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Hard to say for both some games look like trash and others look great. As for the halo 3 vs killzone thingy i would say halo 3 has a better art style and textures and is full of lots of vibrant colors but killzone wins in the animations and physics department. Still cod 4 ownz them both graphically.
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#60 Hoffman-Hansen
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Killzone 2 appeals to me more, it's grittier and the Hellghast look dead cool, like future Nazis, and every one knows that the nazis had kick-ass uniforms. Halo 3 isn't doing it for me art wise, the main reason I digged Halo was because of the story and the little homages to Marathon, like the logo on the spaceship and the logo on the pipe that the general had.
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#61 cloud31blunt
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yes its been showing it since oblivion came out
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#62 wiistation360
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you know whats funny? how killzone 2 is equal to CGI trailer and people still cant admit it looks amazing.. plus it will look EVEN BETTER come release... please stop making up names for the best looking console game.Arsenal325

not even close to

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#63 SiegeTanksFTW
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Basically, no. Unreal Tournament 3 looks better then any other console game, undeniably. Go watch some trailers or look that the screen shots. Best textures, most crisp, cleanest looking game for the consoles. The character models are unequaled, and the effects are amazing. It comes out on both PS3 and 360, and looks the same.
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#64 Blinblingthing
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we can argue about exclusives being better than each other all day long so:

it's a fact that about90% of the multiplats are better on the 360. it's very easy to compere them and easier to claim ownage

if a version of the same game on the 360, 360 wins and the other way too. so far 360 is dominatig graphics, gameplay and online!

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You missed E3, LAIR, GT Prolouge, HS etc

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#65 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]you know whats funny? how killzone 2 is equal to CGI trailer and people still cant admit it looks amazing.. plus it will look EVEN BETTER come release... please stop making up names for the best looking console game.wiistation360

not even close to

Agreed, i've even downloaded the trailer of PSN and watched it on a 1080p tv and although it looks great, its not equal to the CGI trailer.

On another note, i also got the new MGS4 trailer off PSN, and i'm really unimpressed with the graphics, the character models look ace but the environments are terrible, even Resistance environments look alot better.

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#66 ps3rulezzggdff
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yes its been showing it since oblivion came outcloud31blunt

oblivion was shipped incomplete on pc/360 dev even said so

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#67 Chaos_Daro
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[QUOTE="Truebravo"]Right now Sony's mopping there foreheads saying, Whew, they bought it. After seeing that they make excellent use of the grey color scheme they need to switch over to browns... Killzone 2 is CRAP! Anyone who's not upset with seeing Killzone 2 now is absolutely a fanboy! Get your eyes checked...R-Dot-Yung

I forgot, Helghan has purple fields and loveley green and and neon blue aliesn running around lush green forests

yea, War is colorful

It would be nice to see some other environments from KZ2 other than dark gritty streets and buildings (which is all we've seen so far). It should be more like COD4 which has shown quite a nice variety of environmentsalready.

I'm not saying KZ2 won't have lots of different environments but if it doesn't then it could get fairly repetative.

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#68 battle7
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[QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Yes, best looking games

Gameplay is another matter but i'm sure playstation 3 owners wont be dissapointed by that either so goodies for them :D

Arsenal325

You did it wrong, you were supposed to list lots of 360 games that look better then killzone 2

halo 3

HAHAHAHHA..nice one

and since when has killzone become a good series plz explain

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#69 Puckhog04
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Killzone 2 has shown that it can compete. Killzone 2 by no means looks better than Gears of War though. I'm still waiting for Halo 3 as a comparison against Killzone 2.
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#70 jimbob9999
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None of you guys find it strange that Killzone 2 is in pre pre alpha and looking so good?
You know, unless those arn't placeholder textures etc Killzone 2 isn't going to look like that upon release.
Maybe it will look worse, may it will look better but considering how often I see cows screaming DOWNGRADE at ME screens etc don't be surprised if Lemmings do the same if it doesn't look this good.
If I was a cow I sure as hell wouldn't trust Guerilla after E3 '05, just saying you should wait till it's close to release.
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#71 XenogearsMaster
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PS3just beat it by far.
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#72 akif22
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i don't think so

sony only want you to think the PS3 is way more powerful than 360

IMO Resident Evil 5 looks better than killzone 2

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#73 daveg1
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nah i dont think its shown its better than the 360 graphicaly thats impossible due to its gpu and last time i checked thats what does the graphics..

now physics and other stuff is another question and killzone shows to have these things looking good especialy the lighting and shadows cast all over the place when your blasting and enemy in the darker areas....resistence had this down and killzone looks to be even better!!

but no graphicaly it has'nt but its still gaining ground but i dont ever expect it to surpass the 360 graphics wise.the textures let it down mostly.

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#74 CwlHeddwyn
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COD4 looks amazing
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#75 furtherfan
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consoles games in general are beginning to look real good.

take a look at the list of incredibly good looking games to come and allready here:

-Gears of War

-Lost Planet

-Ratched And Clank

-Drakes Fortune

-Haze

-Killzone2

-CoD4

-turok

-UT3

-Eternal Sonata

-Blue Dragon

-Too Human

-Mass Effect

-Heavenly Sword

-Halo3

-Dirt

-GT5

-PGR4

-Uncharted

-MGS4

-Lair

-BIOSHOCK

-RE5

and the list goes on and on.....

golden age of gaming as far as i'm concerned.

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#76 mazdero
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[QUOTE="michael098"]First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.michael098

Its still too early. 360 should be hittign its graphics stride right now, and PS3 just got started. Maybe by end of next year we will have a more decisive winner. What these games do show however, is that all the talk about RSX being so much weaker than the 360 GPU is pretty much crap.

Don't both gpus need to be pushed to their limits before you can say that?

no. 360 fanboys have been going around saying that no PS3 game will EVER look better than a 360 game because the RSX is crap. Well, just look at the games. It disproves the theory that the RSX is crap, and that it is substantially weaker than Xenos. If that were the case, these new PS3 games would not look this good, especially given that the PS3 hardware is still very new, and has not been completely figured out yet. If the RSX is found to indeed be weaker later on down the road, it won't be by the substantial amount the fanboyswould have youbelieve. As for now, the games speak for themselves, and RSX doesn't look very weak. When an unfinshed game is standing side by side with the 360's best graphical game, I think that kind of proves something no?

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#77 silverjiken
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[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Yes, best looking games

Gameplay is another matter but i'm sure playstation 3 owners wont be dissapointed by that either so goodies for them :D

ps3rulezzggdff

You did it wrong, you were supposed to list lots of 360 games that look better then killzone 2

halo 3

hihihhi good one
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#78 Truth_Hurts_U
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COD 4 just kills this thread. Seriously... A multiplat game looking that good just about equal to KZ2 and running on 360 at 60 FPS. Why do you have doubts of 360's power?

Because MS didn't spend 10's of millions on just 1 game?

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#79 Truth_Hurts_U
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i don't think so

sony only want you to think the PS3 is way more powerful than 360

IMO Resident Evil 5 looks better than killzone 2

akif22

I agree RE5 looks better then KZ2... But we didn't see game play yet (or atleast I didn't)... And that is a multiplat title.

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#80 desktopdefender
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Halo 3>>>KZ2 for me, its like gears no colours really, and the textures are bad, as well as halo 3 will be on a bigger scale. And Halo 3s AI looks really good to me as well

But KZ2 could improve since its only in Pre - Alpha and has a while to go

And no the PS3 hasnt proved it is graphicly supiour to me yet. Might in the future, might not

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#81 Pariah_001
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nah i dont think its shown its better than the 360 graphicaly thats impossible due to its gpu and last time i checked thats what does the graphics..daveg1

Please do not indulge the Microsoft consumer fantasy knee-jerk that the PS3 GPU is inferior to the 360's. That myth has bed put to been on multiple occasions.

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#82 CwlHeddwyn
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[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="mazdero"]

[QUOTE="michael098"]First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.mazdero

PS3 hardware isnt very new- its 2 years old- devs have had dev kits since '05- so they've had plenty of time to work on it.

Its still too early. 360 should be hittign its graphics stride right now, and PS3 just got started. Maybe by end of next year we will have a more decisive winner. What these games do show however, is that all the talk about RSX being so much weaker than the 360 GPU is pretty much crap.

Don't both gpus need to be pushed to their limits before you can say that?

no. 360 fanboys have been going around saying that no PS3 game will EVER look better than a 360 game because the RSX is crap. Well, just look at the games. It disproves the theory that the RSX is crap, and that it is substantially weaker than Xenos. If that were the case, these new PS3 games would not look this good, especially given that the PS3 hardware is still very new, and has not been completely figured out yet. If the RSX is found to indeed be weaker later on down the road, it won't be by the substantial amount the fanboyswould have youbelieve. As for now, the games speak for themselves, and RSX doesn't look very weak. When an unfinshed game is standing side by side with the 360's best graphical game, I think that kind of proves something no?

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#83 perfect_chao
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The PS3 will never display graphics better than 360, reason being the 360's GPU is better than PS3's.

Bit of a turn around seeing as how the nvidia8800 cards for pc are better than ATI's best right now :D

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#84 bluebrad1974
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First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.michael098
I really don't understand the hype behind the KZ2 trailer. It looks like a host of FPS that have been on the market for years. The E3 2007 Call of Duty 4 trailer utterly destroys the KZ2 trailer. I guess Sony fans aren't a very informed group of people. One thing is certain, you guys are hyping a trailer that is graphically average at best.

Here is a Call of Duty 4 trailer to compare to the mediocre KZ2 trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21748.html

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#85 Echo13791
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I personally agree, but be prepared to get flamed. If you see the new screens from Lair it looks really insane
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#86 Echo13791
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[QUOTE="michael098"]First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.bluebrad1974

I really don't understand the hype behind the KZ2 trailer. It looks like a host of FPS that have been on the market for years. The E3 2007 Call of Duty 4 trailer utterly destroys the KZ2 trailer. I guess Sony fans aren't a very informed group of people. One thing is certain, you guys are hyping a trailer that is graphically average at best.

Here is a Call of Duty 4 trailer to compare to the mediocre KZ2 trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21748.html


fanboy! man, i will never understand how some people can be so ignorant to the other side opinions and info. Then again, uninformed fanboys will always exist and everyone just has to deal with them! I wish gamers could just unite and appreciate cool looking games, no matter what system they were for
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#87 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Yes, best looking games

Gameplay is another matter but i'm sure playstation 3 owners wont be dissapointed by that either so goodies for them :D

Arsenal325

You did it wrong, you were supposed to list lots of 360 games that look better then killzone 2

halo 3

HAHAHAHHA..nice one

:lol:

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[QUOTE="michael098"]First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.bluebrad1974

I really don't understand the hype behind the KZ2 trailer. It looks like a host of FPS that have been on the market for years. The E3 2007 Call of Duty 4 trailer utterly destroys the KZ2 trailer. I guess Sony fans aren't a very informed group of people. One thing is certain, you guys are hyping a trailer that is graphically average at best.

Here is a Call of Duty 4 trailer to compare to the mediocre KZ2 trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21748.html

I agree. When I saw the reaction to the Killzone 2 stuff here on SW, I felt like I was taking crazy pills. I just don't see it, especially in the face of Call of Duty 4, which looks... for lack of a better word... splendiferous to the third power.
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#89 furtherfan
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no. 360 fanboys have been going around saying that no PS3 game will EVER look better than a 360 game because the RSX is crap. Well, just look at the games. It disproves the theory that the RSX is crap, and that it is substantially weaker than Xenos. If that were the case, these new PS3 games would not look this good, especially given that the PS3 hardware is still very new, and has not been completely figured out yet. If the RSX is found to indeed be weaker later on down the road, it won't be by the substantial amount the fanboyswould have youbelieve. As for now, the games speak for themselves, and RSX doesn't look very weak. When an unfinshed game is standing side by side with the 360's best graphical game, I think that kind of proves something no?

CwlHeddwyn

they look good in the sense that they can have more things going on with incredible physics and even more polygons than the 360.

textures is it's main problem though. Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Killzone2 and even MGS4 show this. Thsi doesn't mean the games look bad though.. look at Ratchet and clank: very few high res textures, and the game looks absolutely stunning.

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#90 bluebrad1974
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[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]

[QUOTE="michael098"]First there is killzone 2 and i don't care what people are saying about the textures it is still a very good looking game, and then there are the new GT5 screens, maybe ps3 is finally showing what its capable of, what games on 360 are graphically more impressive then killzone 2? Maybe the cows wait is over and the ps3 is now going to be the console with the best looking games.Echo13791

I really don't understand the hype behind the KZ2 trailer. It looks like a host of FPS that have been on the market for years. The E3 2007 Call of Duty 4 trailer utterly destroys the KZ2 trailer. I guess Sony fans aren't a very informed group of people. One thing is certain, you guys are hyping a trailer that is graphically average at best.

Here is a Call of Duty 4 trailer to compare to the mediocre KZ2 trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21748.html


fanboy! man, i will never understand how some people can be so ignorant to the other side opinions and info. Then again, uninformed fanboys will always exist and everyone just has to deal with them! I wish gamers could just unite and appreciate cool looking games, no matter what system they were for

I don't think being honest about the new KZ2 trailer, and then leaving a link to show people how ill informed they are is fanboyism. But blindly denying something that is obviously the truth probably is in this particular case.
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#91 bluebrad1974
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[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

no. 360 fanboys have been going around saying that no PS3 game will EVER look better than a 360 game because the RSX is crap. Well, just look at the games. It disproves the theory that the RSX is crap, and that it is substantially weaker than Xenos. If that were the case, these new PS3 games would not look this good, especially given that the PS3 hardware is still very new, and has not been completely figured out yet. If the RSX is found to indeed be weaker later on down the road, it won't be by the substantial amount the fanboyswould have youbelieve. As for now, the games speak for themselves, and RSX doesn't look very weak. When an unfinshed game is standing side by side with the 360's best graphical game, I think that kind of proves something no?

furtherfan

they look good in the sense that they can have more things going on with incredible physics and even more polygons than the 360.

textures is it's main problem though. Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Killzone2 and even MGS4 show this. Thsi doesn't mean the games look bad though.. look at Ratchet and clank: very few high res textures, and the game looks absolutely stunning.

If I'm not mistaken, the 360 can do a 3rd more polys than the PS3.
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#92 Newnab
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The PS3 certainely hasn't wowed me this E3.

Killzone 2 looks better than I expected, but still nothing truly mindblowing and I don't feel it lived up to the CGI trailer.

CoD4 is looking better than Killzone 2, and personally, I'm loving how Mass Effect looks more than Killzone aswell.

Crysis is still running out front in terms of graphics, and as for Halo 3, I think it looks better than most people are giving it credit for, but it too is nothing mindblowing. It needs some more polish graphically maybe but in terms of gameplay it's looking very fun and superior to Killzone 2.

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#93 ToScA-
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you know whats funny? how killzone 2 is equal to CGI trailer and people still cant admit it looks amazing.. plus it will look EVEN BETTER come release... please stop making up names for the best looking console game.Arsenal325

Please stop lying to yourself. I've said it looks amazing numerous times, but it does, in no way, look equal to the CGI trailer.

Also..no..one games proves nothing. The same question, however reversed, could had been asked when Gears of War was released. We will never reach an answer that concludes this discussion till this generation is over. Simply because we do not know how much more capable each of the consoles are. All formats still have a lot of juice left to be squized.

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#94 Kestastrophe
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it's not more graphically capable, but now it is on par with the 360...maybe sometime in 2008 they'll exceed the 360 in terms of graphicsmwa

I agree. However, we have yet to see any 2008 games from MS, so we don't know what they will look like (especially the big hitters like Gears 2).

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#95 -wii60-
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more capable.. :roll: have u seem killzone 2 textures? that looks disgusting.. both consoles have ups and downs to me xbox360 and ps3'll be the same in power.. the xbox360 hasn't been even maxed out yet same with the ps3.
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#96 Zaeryn
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Looks aren't what matters.
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#97 tidus222
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LMAO at the lemmings in denial

halo 3 looks like you are fighting muppets, and telletubbies in the tropics, the graphics stink no way could they render faces or animations like killzone 2

lemmings just need to face it ps3 has owned xbox360

killzone 2, MGS4, GT5 practically owned E3

you hear anyone talking about 360 games

nope it was all ps3 baby cause people know where the goods are

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#98 MADVLAD123
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I think people should check out the Mass Effect Stage demo. It's under Mass Effect videos. It looks amazing. When they go into conversation with that one alien near the elevatior, the alien's face looked so damn good. And they said it was running real-time. Wow.

Just to mention a few other games that look better:

Assassin's Creed (still in Beta I think, and once some of the graphical glitches and the floating bodies are fixed (although that seemed pretty isolated to that one case) it will look stunning.

Halo 3 (many different press sources have said that the singleplayer graphics are just out of this world and quite a few sources have mentioned that Halo 3 looks very close to Crysis)

Bioshock (what more can I say. I can take a screenshot of the game and put it up on the wall and it will look like a painting. that's how beautiful it is).

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#99 -wii60-
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LMAO at the lemmings in denial

halo 3 looks like you are fighting muppets, and telletubbies in the tropics, the graphics stink no way could they render faces or animations like killzone 2

lemmings just need to face it ps3 has owned xbox360

killzone 2, MGS4, GT5 practically owned E3

you hear anyone talking about 360 games

nope it was all ps3 baby cause people know where the goods are

tidus222


yeah i like the textures of killzone 2 and MGS 4 :roll: