Has Sony actually succeeded in anything this gen?

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Ok, so I know there are all these dumb thread I have been trying to avoid about random crap comparisons between the PS3 and 360 and how the 360 haz no games yet all the PS3 exclusives flop, and the fact that because in 2011 Xbox has lack of exclusives it never had exclusive at all and etc. etc, insert ignorance here.

Now while I am a PS3 owner Ieven I have a TERRIBLE problem trying to figure out what Sony actually accomplished with the PS3 this gen.

IN TOTAL it's last in games.

IN TOTAL, it's last in amount of games sold IN TOTAl.

World Wide sales IN TOTAL it's last place.

It lost over HALF it's market share.

It tries desperately to earn profit from it's games so badly we get 4 entries into one series in under 5 years.

It requires you to install certain games unlike the competiton where you just put the game in and go.

PSN has less games IN TOTAL.

PSN has terrible security that Sony already knew about but gnored.

PSN is slow.

PSN has a terrible classic game selection and exclusive game collection library.

PSN has a birthday password crack (Wtf?)

The Playstation move has failed their expectations.

The Playstation move Exclusive titles are actually almost all forgotten by many websites.

They have many 1st party studios and all are making that one game series that is profitable.

Long development time for Gran Tourismo, promising things the game never delivered with its 5th entry and dthe game did not gain as much traction for the brand as it did for Sony's other consoles.

Playstation 3's later got rid of PS2 compatibility. That's actually a negative.

PSN has a very short list of PSone downloads

PS3 constantly has been said to outdue the others in graphics, yet almost all gen it was "HA! This machine can't do this!" then it does and then it goes back around in a circle till currently, the Xbox 360 is actually ahead this time.

Sony lied about the untapped hidden magic of the Cell. Er, TEH cell.

Sony Launched at a ridicoulous price point so far off I am still wondering what they were smoking. Even with Brand power that was a bad move.

Sony PS3 slims have some dic reading problems with older games. Also, no PS2 B/C either.

PS3's web browser is as slow as the one on the PSP and that's a problem.

They lost money this whole gen pretty much untilr recently.

They lost crapillion on the PSN hacking.

They act like they have not lost any money this gen by throwing around money for studios and exclusives. Which in turn all make that one series.

They admmitted the PS4 was a long way away based on the fact that they pretty much indirectly admitted the screwed up massively finance wise.

Terribly slow Blu-ray drive.

Failed 3D TV PS3 bundle.

ETC. ETC, ETC.

The only thing I have seen is Sony succeeding (with the PS3) to prove Blu-ray was more powerful than HD-DVD. Which even then, was not by much to the point where people don't really care much for blu-ray anymore and even downloaded movies look better now.

That's the one success I have seen the PS3 do. I know a lot of people prefer the PS3 over the 360, thinks it has better games and all, but what factual thing has Sony actually SUCCEEDED in with the PS#? Help me out here, I got nothing.

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Its actually the things they say that make me despise cows the most. Look at N4G for example. I can name specific individuals from there who have a major habit of contradicting themselves and making up the biggest BS I've ever seen. People say PC fanboys are worse but I'm not convinced.

BTW TC, a lot of the stuff they say you mentioned in your opening post. They often say the opposite to what you said there.

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#3 Cow4ever
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I didn't even read your nice little essay. But they for sure succeeded with one thing, making the best console of all time.
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#5 BigBoss154
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They succeeded in bringing new, quality IPs this gen.

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#6 theJakandsig
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I didn't even read your nice little essay. But they for sure succeeded with one thing, making the best console of all time.Cow4ever
The best console of all time has lees games, less variety, semi-poor online, semi-poor amount of movies, exclusive online download games, virtually no b/c, and having top selling 1st-party studios only make that same series in a gen becaus they are deperate for profit? Also, they lie as badly as Newt Ginrich? Good god man, this must be your first gen gaming.

What's funnier is that it isn't even an essay and is an actual list. So you really only posted to troll did you?

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#7 theJakandsig
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They succeeded in bringing new, quality IPs this gen.

BigBoss154

New?

Also, the other consoles haven't? Still got nothing/

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#8 kuraimen
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They succeeded in not charging for online and giving lots of quality exclusives which makes them my favorite this gen.
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#9 randomguy15
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It succeeded in convincing me to never buy a PS4 when it comes out, I tried out the PS3.. I'm sticking to Xbox, maybe even Nintendo if they can improve.

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#10 finalstar2007
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Woho so much to read

and yes

in bringing GAMES!

unlike other companies ;)

still bored with nothing to play? sorry to hear that bro :(

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#11 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]I didn't even read your nice little essay. But they for sure succeeded with one thing, making the best console of all time.theJakandsig
The best console of all time has lees games, less variety, semi-poor online, semi-poor amount of movies, exclusive online download games, virtually no b/c, and having top selling 1st-party studios only make that same series in a gen becaus they are deperate for profit? Also, they lie as badly as Newt Ginrich? Good god man, this must be your first gen gaming.

It has some of the best games ever with a huge variety, the online is the best yet, I guess all movies in existence is semi-poor amount, yes it does have exclusive online download game. And I don't know what b/c is.
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#12 RandomWinner
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Calm down! The PS3 hasn't done as well as the PS2, but has it succeeded at anything? Yes! It won the format war for Sony! There's more, but your not worth it.

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#13 eboyishere
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they have had a better year of exclusives then 360
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Going from an incredible lead in first place to a dismal last place.
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#15 lundy86_4
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They brought me a great console with some great games. They succeeded at making me happy.

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#16 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

They succeeded in bringing new, quality IPs this gen.

theJakandsig

New?

Infamous, Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, Demon's Souls, Motorstorm, etc.

Yes, new. They have cretaed more new IPs this gen than MS or Nintendo.

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#17 theJakandsig
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Woho so much to read

and yes

in bringing GAMES!

unlike other companies ;)

still bored with nothing to play? sorry to hear that bro :(

finalstar2007

Please go and play inFAMOUS 12 while I play games like Deux Ex, Dead Island. You can't use the bored excuse when there are multiplats. Try again.

Also, I can;t believe "bringing games" when it has less games in total then all 4 of its competitors.

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#18 theJakandsig
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[QUOTE="theJakandsig"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

They succeeded in bringing new, quality IPs this gen.

BigBoss154

New?

Infamous, Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, Demon's Souls, Motorstorm, etc.

Yes, new. They have cretaed more new IPs this gen than MS or Nintendo.

They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

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#19 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Woho so much to read

and yes

in bringing GAMES!

unlike other companies ;)

still bored with nothing to play? sorry to hear that bro :(

theJakandsig

Please go and play inFAMOUS 12 while I play games like Deux Ex, Dead Island. You can't use the bored excuse when there are multiplats. Try again.

Also, I can;t believe "bringing games" when it has less games in total then all 4 of its competitors.

The thing is he can play all those games on his PS3 while you can only play 2 on them on the 360 AND inferior versions lol.
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#20 theJakandsig
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they have had a better year of exclusives then 360 eboyishere
so has the competiton. try again. and vice-versa, cancells out.

Calm down! The PS3 hasn't done as well as the PS2, but has it succeeded at anything? Yes! It won the format war for Sony! There's more, but your not worth it.

RandomWinner

Because there isn' more? Glad you admit it.

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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Woho so much to read

and yes

in bringing GAMES!

unlike other companies ;)

still bored with nothing to play? sorry to hear that bro :(

theJakandsig

Please go and play inFAMOUS 12 while I play games like Deux Ex, Dead Island. You can't use the bored excuse when there are multiplats. Try again.

Also, I can;t believe "bringing games" when it has less games in total then all 4 of its competitors.

inFamous 12? Sucker Punch is working on a new IP right now. And what's stoping PS3 gamers from playing Deus Ex and Dead Island?

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#22 gmaster456
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It has more console exclusives that I like IN TOTAL.

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#23 theJakandsig
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[QUOTE="theJakandsig"][QUOTE="Cow4ever"] [QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="theJakandsig"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Woho so much to read

and yes

in bringing GAMES!

unlike other companies ;)

still bored with nothing to play? sorry to hear that bro :(

Cow4ever

Please go and play inFAMOUS 12 while I play games like Deux Ex, Dead Island. You can't use the bored excuse when there are multiplats. Try again.

Also, I can;t believe "bringing games" when it has less games in total then all 4 of its competitors.

The thing is he can play all those games on his PS3 while you can only play 2 on them on the 360 AND inferior versions lol.

The thing is that the majority of plats THIS YEAR are superior on Sony's competitors. So no, you can't use that one, try again.

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#24 designer-
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I think Sony's exclusive line up this generation has been superb.
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#25 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]they have had a better year of exclusives then 360 theJakandsig

so has the competiton. try again. and vice-versa, cancells out.

not really it'sthe PC and ps3's year

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#26 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="theJakandsig"] New?

theJakandsig

Infamous, Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, Demon's Souls, Motorstorm, etc.

Yes, new. They have cretaed more new IPs this gen than MS or Nintendo.

They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule and Evolution Studios are owned by Sony. So that's at least 4 IPs from hi list. Now how many from 360?
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#27 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="theJakandsig"] New?

theJakandsig

Infamous, Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, Demon's Souls, Motorstorm, etc.

Yes, new. They have cretaed more new IPs this gen than MS or Nintendo.

They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

They are Sony owned IPs, just like Halo is MS'. Microsoft didn't make Halo, Bungie did... even before they become apart of MS. So are you going to tell me that Halo is not Microsoft's IP? Come now...

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#29 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="theJakandsig"] Please go and play inFAMOUS 12 while I play games like Deux Ex, Dead Island. You can't use the bored excuse when there are multiplats. Try again.

Also, I can;t believe "bringing games" when it has less games in total then all 4 of its competitors.

theJakandsig

The thing is he can play all those games on his PS3 while you can only play 2 on them on the 360 AND inferior versions lol.

The thing is that the majority of plats THIS YEAR are superior on Sony's competitors. So no, you can't use that one, try again.

So I can't use that one even though you'll be playing 2 inferior versions of a game and I'll be playing the vastly superior versions AND a cracking exclusive :?
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#30 randomguy15
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Just thought I should point out to everyone... Exclusives, doesn't necessarily make a console better.. Just saying...

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#32 donalbane
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I'm really liking the 3D stuff they are doing, Blu Ray won the format war, the Sharpshooter/Move combo is badass... so yeah, they've done some good things.
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#33 theJakandsig
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[QUOTE="theJakandsig"]

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"] The thing is he can play all those games on his PS3 while you can only play 2 on them on the 360 AND inferior versions lol.Cow4ever

The thing is that the majority of plats THIS YEAR are superior on Sony's competitors. So no, you can't use that one, try again.

So I can't use that one even though you'll be playing 2 inferior versions of a game and I'll be playing the vastly superior versions AND a cracking exclusive :?

You will be playing 2 superior M-plats 3 flopclusives and 2 good exclusives while I'll be playing 10 superior m-plats and 3 good exclusives. Hmm, my side seems better.

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#34 theJakandsig
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I'm really liking the 3D stuff they are doing, Blu Ray won the format war, the Sharpshooter/Move combo is badass... so yeah, they've done some good things. donalbane
Good=/=success.
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#35 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="theJakandsig"] They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

theJakandsig

They are Sony owned IPs, just like Halo is MS'. Microsoft didn't make Halo, Bungie did... even before they become apart of MS. So are you going to tell me that Halo is not Microsoft's IP? Come now...

No, what you did wrong is stop taking reading classes. For example, I was talking about Sucker Punch as an example BEFORE they were brought. Also, another user specifically mentioned SONY and thus, their MAIN studios have done nothing new as far as I have seen except a selecet few games.

Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, Zipper Interactive and Evolution Studios just to name a few.
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#36 designer-
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Just thought I should point out to everyone... Exclusives, doesn't necessarily make a console better.. Just saying...

randomguy15
I bought the PS3 to play games. Games are the reason I own consoles in general. Exclusive games make a console worthwhile to me...
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#37 Heil68
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Just the best console gaming experience I've had this generation. A steady stream of high quality exclusive games to play year around and I'm glad I don't have to wait a year to play a measly 2 games.
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#38 i5750at4Ghz
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Not really. They pretty much took 5 huge steps back this gen in terms of being a gaming company. PSx and PS2 were/are so much better in almost everyway.

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#39 theJakandsig
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[QUOTE="theJakandsig"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Infamous, Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, Demon's Souls, Motorstorm, etc.

Yes, new. They have cretaed more new IPs this gen than MS or Nintendo.

Cow4ever

They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule and Evolution Studios are owned by Sony. So that's at least 4 IPs from hi list. Now how many from 360?

Once again, sucker punch did not count until recently learn 2 read. Also, being owned does not mean that new Ips cannot me exclusive to the console like for example Gears of war.

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#40 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="theJakandsig"] The thing is that the majority of plats THIS YEAR are superior on Sony's competitors. So no, you can't use that one, try again.

theJakandsig

So I can't use that one even though you'll be playing 2 inferior versions of a game and I'll be playing the vastly superior versions AND a cracking exclusive :?

You will be playing 2 superior M-plats 3 flopclusives and 2 good exclusives while I'll be playing 10 superior m-plats and 3 good exclusives. Hmm, my side seems better.

Let's see here, quality exclusives so far: LBP2, Infamous 2, Killzone 3 360 NONE Quality multiplats: Dead Island 2, Deus Ex, Portal 2, LA Noire. There aren't even any released exclusives for 360 yet so no it doesn't seem better. And what "10 superior multiplats"?
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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]

Just thought I should point out to everyone... Exclusives, doesn't necessarily make a console better.. Just saying...

designer-

I bought the PS3 to play games. Games are the reason I own consoles in general. Exclusive games make a console worthwhile to me...

Ok. How many exclusives do you own for your consoles? How many multiplats? Of those multiplats, which is superior on which console? How many games do you have that is just PC/360 multiplat? Which controller do you prefer? What do you play more? Do you play online? Which interface on consoles do you like better? Understand where I'm coming from? And no, I don't expect you to answer all these questions.

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#42 theJakandsig
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Just the best console gaming experience I've had this generation. A steady stream of high quality exclusive games to play year around and I'm glad I don't have to wait a year to play a measly 2 games. Heil68
Becuase multi-plats don't exist. 10 superior multiplat and 4 "possible" quality games against 2 superior multiplats, and 7 flops with only 1 "possible quality games coming soon. Hmmmmm. Also, if you read, you can't say you liking them contributes to success. Which no one has provided other than the format war I already mentioned before. Read people.
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#43 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="theJakandsig"] They haven't created any new IPs. Those comapnies did, and Suker Punch was JUST BROUGHT by Sony. When I say new I mean have the developers that they own, which you imply are godly, not stay on one series the entire gen because they are scared to lose more money then what they have already lost.

theJakandsig

Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule and Evolution Studios are owned by Sony. So that's at least 4 IPs from hi list. Now how many from 360?

Once again, sucker punch did not count until recently learn 2 read. Also, being owned does not mean that new Ips cannot me exclusive to the console like for example Gears of war.

They do count. They are owned by Sony so they are now Sony's talent. You don't make the rules. And the second sentence of your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
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#44 razgriz_101
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getting bluray touted as a medium could be considered a sucess.

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#46 i5750at4Ghz
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getting bluray touted as a medium could be considered a sucess.

razgriz_101
Unless you factor in the fact it getting crushed by Digital Distribution.
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#47 xLittlekillx
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They've succeeded in convincing me to buy a PS3. They just haven't succeeded in making me want to play it.

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#48 Cow4ever
Member since 2011 • 689 Posts
[QUOTE="Heil68"]Just the best console gaming experience I've had this generation. A steady stream of high quality exclusive games to play year around and I'm glad I don't have to wait a year to play a measly 2 games. theJakandsig
Becuase multi-plats don't exist. 10 superior multiplat and 4 "possible" quality games against 2 superior multiplats, and 7 flops with only 1 "possible quality games coming soon. Hmmmmm. Also, if you read, you can't say you liking them contributes to success. Which no one has provided other than the format war I already mentioned before. Read people.

You said yourself that the majority of multiplats looks better on the PS3 this year. "possible"? Are we future tellers here? The fact is PS3 has already 3 quality exclusives while 360 has no exclusives whatsoever. If we are future teller PS3 will have 20 quality exclusives lol.
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#49 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Just the best console gaming experience I've had this generation. A steady stream of high quality exclusive games to play year around and I'm glad I don't have to wait a year to play a measly 2 games. theJakandsig
Becuase multi-plats don't exist. 10 superior multiplat and 4 "possible" quality games against 2 superior multiplats, and 7 flops with only 1 "possible quality games coming soon. Hmmmmm. Also, if you read, you can't say you liking them contributes to success. Which no one has provided other than the format war I already mentioned before. Read people.

Multi plats exist and that's why I get them on PC. 360 hasn't had a retail exclusive game in a year..oh wait..they had rise of nightmares..a 5.5 gem..
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#50 theJakandsig
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[QUOTE="Cow4ever"] Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule and Evolution Studios are owned by Sony. So that's at least 4 IPs from hi list. Now how many from 360?Cow4ever

Once again, sucker punch did not count until recently learn 2 read. Also, being owned does not mean that new Ips cannot me exclusive to the console like for example Gears of war.

They do count. They are owned by Sony so they are now Sony's talent. You don't make the rules. And the second sentence of your comment makes no sense whatsoever.

Your ignorance comes from the fact that you did not know Sucker Punch was not owned by Sony. When InFAMOUS came out (and 2 i think) they were not owned by Sony. Thus, those games aren't new IPS created by Sony. What part of that can you not comprehend?