Has Sony done anything innovative at all?

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#51 sonic1564
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Innovation is largely overrated. Certain innovations do great, whilst others can simply bomb hard. That doesn't mean that they should just sit and stagnate, though.

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#52 clr84651
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Bluray, 4kTV, Walkman, the first camchorder, best digital camera on the market, best PCs, best console (PS4), free online gaming, and a lot more. There stands very good reasons why Sony is the best at hardware. MS does OS's and networking. Let's just leave it at that. 

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#53 clyde46
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Innovation is largely overrated. Certain innovations do great, whilst others can simply bomb hard. That doesn't mean that they should just sit and stagnate, though.

sonic1564

Go back to the basement calf.

Hahahahahahahah silly little lemming.
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#54 clyde46
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Bluray, 4kTV, Walkman, the first camchorder, best digital camera on the market, best PCs, best console (PS4), free online gaming, and a lot more. There stands very good reasons why Sony is the best at hardware. MS does OS's and networking. Let's just leave it at that. 

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Although I disagree with the PC part, Sony make the best broadcast stuff and that is why I like Sony.
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#55 TheDidact
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Why are you using my GAF gif as a sig? :|
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#56 Floppy_Jim
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They've introduced a number of things to console gaming for the first time. Whether that fits your definition of "innovative" I don't know or really care.
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#57 sonic1564
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Why are you using my GAF gif as a sig? :|TheDidact

I strongly thanked you for the sig on the thread you posted it. Plus, I'm part of the glorious 360/720 master race, where Ballmer is the king of the world.

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#58 BrunoBRS
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i was going to make a joke tied to the topic, but TC's examples are so bad i'd feel bad it i was pictured as siding with him.
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#59 clr84651
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I love how the according to OP the dualshock is clearly a rip-off of Nintendo and 360 designs (despite predating the 360...) and yet Kinect is not a rip-off of the EyeToy. :roll:Fossil-

Kinect is MS's idea of combining the eye toy and the Wii motion controls into one device. They made the first Xbox to improve on what the PS2 didn't pull off well with it's HDD expansion bay and limited online network gaming by making a built in HDD standard and creating xlive socialized gaming that they knew would bring them in the huge cash they needed to make a go at Sony. They tried their darndest with the 360 bringing it out a year ahead and having it lower in price and having an easier to develop for system. But as time went on Bluray caught on and the PS3 got netflix and the console dropped in price to match the 360 and then the PS3 started outselling the 360 worldwide and caught up and tied it essentially. Sony meanwhile was taking in all the negative criticism about why their console didn't win. They talked with game devs, social gaming experts, and many areas to improve with the PS4. They then strategized just how to implement all the best things into a console that gamers truly liked and wanted in a console and that game devs would like to see in order to develope more easily and quickly for it. They also sought after the best possible hardware and architecture at an affordable price. They bought cloud to handle their online gaming and are now in the process of finishing up the newly made user interface and design of the console itself and are on target to release the first half of Nov 2013 with 2 sku's at $429 & $529. Just like they had the 20gb PS3 and 60gb PS3 at launch. They knew they couldn't afford to have MS have an advantage again and they needed to do what it takes to succeed. 

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#60 nini200
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Eyetoy/Playstation Eye: Kinect sort of copied it.

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Eyetoy is an advanced rip off Gameboy Camera.

DVD playability on a console was something that Sony Innovated
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#61 XalonR
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Being able to play your games from your ps3 to basically any digital device IS innovation. Wii U had a designated device. The touchpad is INNOVATION, the dualshock is the best controller to ever exist.
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#62 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Innovation is largely overrated. Certain innovations do great, whilst others can simply bomb hard. That doesn't mean that they should just sit and stagnate, though.

sonic1564

Go back to the basement calf.

Awesome post, bro. Tell me more.

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#63 ImBatman-
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They have earned my love and respect. Something no company has ever done before.

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#64 KarateeeChop
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probably not. all of their "innovations" probably failed so bad that nobody's heard of it. :(

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#65 clr84651
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Eyetoy/Playstation Eye: Kinect sort of copied it.

nini200

Eyetoy is an advanced rip off Gameboy Camera.

 

DVD playability on a console was something that Sony Innovated

And we have Nintendo to thank for screwing Sony over by signing an agreement to have Sony make the optical drive for the Nintendo Playstation. Nintendo went behind Sony's back and went to Phillips and let them do it instead. This left Sony hanging having designed the optical drive for it and Sony decided to then make the Playstation console themselves and thus Sony began their rein on the console market by making their consoles appeal to more people than Sega and Nintendo did for years. And now we just saw Sony surprised by MS and Nintendo this gen causing Sony to really look again at what they needed to do to succeed again. 

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#66 clr84651
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They have earned my love and respect. Something no company has ever done before.

ImBatman-

You have to respect them. Not just for what they just did with PS4, but long before that with many other devices and tech they have brought out. 

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#67 clone01
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Sure?  No?  I don't know.

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#68 Granny_Spanked
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Counter argument- Has Microsoft done anything innovative?
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#69 clyde46
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Counter argument- Has Microsoft done anything stolen Granny_Spanked
Fixed.
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#70 ReadingRainbow4
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PSN: rip off of XBL

Move: Rip off of Wiimote

Killzone: Rip off of Halo

PSASBR: Rip off of SSB

Controller: Rip off of SNES controller

Uncharted: Rip off of Gears/Tomb Raider

Sony has done nothing for the gaming industry at all that is new or innovative. Even the things they rip off end up being worse than the original (PSN, Killzone, PSASBR). Even the new controller is stealing ideas from the 360 and Wii-U controller. Sony really isn't needed for the gaming industry.

sonic1564

They made you mad.

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#71 LazySloth718
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They have earned my love and respect. Something no company has ever done before.

ImBatman-

lol

It's a corporation not your wife.

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#72 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

Has Sonic1564 ever made a good thread?

sonic1564

Yes

You might have been the TC, but Lupin made the thread what it was.
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#73 ultimate-k
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Least they make the best consoles, and don't use gimmicks to sell them.

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#74 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]Counter argument- Has Microsoft done anything stolen clyde46
Fixed.

Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:
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#75 jessejay420
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They've introduced a number of things to console gaming for the first time.Floppy_Jim
Like what? im not tring to argue here.im just curious.
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#76 Shewgenja
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They certainly have innovated new ways to butthurt Lemmings as of late.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]Counter argument- Has Microsoft done anything stolen hoosier7
Fixed.

Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:

Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?
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#78 Granny_Spanked
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Fixed.

Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:

Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?

Exactly, even RED is taking Sony to court.
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#79 clyde46
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Fixed.

Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:

Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?

This, I did laugh when a UK judge ruled that Apple's apology letter to Samsung wasn't good enough :lol:
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#80 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"][QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="hoosier7"] Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:

Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?

Exactly, even RED is taking Sony to court.

Indeed they are. http://broadcastengineering.com/company-news/red-sues-sony-patent-infringement
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#81 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Fixed.

Lol, aren't/weren't MS in a big legal battle with Samsung over patent infringement? :lol:

Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?

True but to be fair Sony haven't had their consoles banned from sale in Germany over anything.
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#82 Granny_Spanked
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[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Who isn't in a battle over patent infringements?clyde46
Exactly, even RED is taking Sony to court.

Indeed they are. http://broadcastengineering.com/company-news/red-sues-sony-patent-infringement

I like how there's a Sony ad on the side haha.
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#83 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They've introduced a number of things to console gaming for the first time.jessejay420
Like what? im not tring to argue here.im just curious.

PS2 supported hard drives before Xbox released. Cloud savingcame first on PS3, data storage from 3rd party USB memory sticks (360 didn't support these for years), retail games available for download (360's Games On Demand came later), Day 1 Digital, PSN pre-orders, a rental service- PlayStation Plus itself and by extension Automatic updates, Remote Play, slimming down of console hardware (has influenced MS and Ninty to do the same), OtherOS, KB+Mouse support (irrelevant now tbh), demo disks (PS1 days). Some of these might be wrong and again, it's really stuff that was brought to consoles for the first time than outright innovation the world has never seen before but there you go.

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#84 kuraimen
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They actually make games. Also: Xbox: rip off of Playstation
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#85 Clock-w0rk
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Outside of dual analogs I'd say not really. Certainly not on a level that has impacted the game industry.

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#86 jsmoke03
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they innovated in sales

blu ray and dvd disc format used for gaming

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#87 OneInchMan99
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PSN: rip off of XBL

Move: Rip off of Wiimote

Killzone: Rip off of Halo

PSASBR: Rip off of SSB

Controller: Rip off of SNES controller

Uncharted: Rip off of Gears/Tomb Raider

Sony has done nothing for the gaming industry at all that is new or innovative. Even the things they rip off end up being worse than the original (PSN, Killzone, PSASBR). Even the new controller is stealing ideas from the 360 and Wii-U controller. Sony really isn't needed for the gaming industry.

sonic1564

You know I took the time to read your post dude,but all I'm seeing is....BUTTHURT...BUTHURT...BUTTHURT.Whats the matter,had you convinced yourself PS4 was'nt coming or would be an underpowered media box.

You really don't know Sony at all do you.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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#88 lundy86_4
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they innovated in sales

jsmoke03

Innovated by selling? Which all consumer products do?

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#89 FinalFighters
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Cry moar, b!tch.
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[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Eyetoy/Playstation Eye: Kinect sort of copied it.

clr84651

Eyetoy is an advanced rip off Gameboy Camera.

 

DVD playability on a console was something that Sony Innovated

And we have Nintendo to thank for screwing Sony over by signing an agreement to have Sony make the optical drive for the Nintendo Playstation. Nintendo went behind Sony's back and went to Phillips and let them do it instead. This left Sony hanging having designed the optical drive for it and Sony decided to then make the Playstation console themselves and thus Sony began their rein on the console market by making their consoles appeal to more people than Sega and Nintendo did for years. And now we just saw Sony surprised by MS and Nintendo this gen causing Sony to really look again at what they needed to do to succeed again. 

SEGA was second to partner with Sony and turn their backs on them.

Nintendo provided Playstation with the name and the controller is based on the SNES controller; SEGA was the one that convinced Sony to make the Playstation 3D instead of 2D.

Sega and Sony.  Source 1 Source 2

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#91 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Eyetoy/Playstation Eye: Kinect sort of copied it.

nini200

Eyetoy is an advanced rip off Gameboy Camera.

 

DVD playability on a console was something that Sony Innovated

I was going to mention DVD playback but I deleted that sentence because I figured the TC would say it doesn't count.

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#92 tormentos
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PSN: rip off of XBL

Move: Rip off of Wiimote

Killzone: Rip off of Halo

PSASBR: Rip off of SSB

Controller: Rip off of SNES controller

Uncharted: Rip off of Gears/Tomb Raider

Sony has done nothing for the gaming industry at all that is new or innovative. Even the things they rip off end up being worse than the original (PSN, Killzone, PSASBR). Even the new controller is stealing ideas from the 360 and Wii-U controller. Sony really isn't needed for the gaming industry.

sonic1564
Xbox live invented online play.lol Nintendo invented motion controls.lol Halo invented FPS.lololol SSB invented fighting games with multiple characters from different series. lol Nintendo invented controllers.lol Tomb Raider invented exploring games.lol (gears copy Killswitch just like Uncharted