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#1 Deepcut9
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In an interview, a developer for Haze says this: "What do you think is the worst game of all time and why? Halo 2. Not because it actually is the worst game of all time, but because of the enormous gulf between its mythical reputation of near-biblical greatness and the reality of relentless mediocrity. Plus, I like getting hatemail." Linkity Poodles: http://www.freeradicaldesign.co.uk/articles.php?id=7 Teehee.
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#2 mazdaspeed-rx8
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lmao he does speak the truth though. with games like half life 2 that was out during the time halo 2 was. its easy to hate on halo 2 compred to half life 2.
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#3 darthogre
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This is why I worry about Halo 3......is it being built into something it's not?
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#4 Teuf_
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LMAO, especially at the last part of that quote.
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#5 TheWalrusBeast
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He was asked what he thought was the worst game ever and he answered Halo 2, but then he said it's not the worst game ever in the same sentence :|
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#6 Newnab
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Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

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#7 lantus
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Hell after playing Halo CE for years then Halo 2 comes around, it does seem terrible, but by far not the worst game of all time, the Halo series deserves it's status in the gaming world, but is way too overrated.
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#8 DisPimpin
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Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

Newnab
Could it be based on the fact that these are the same guys that made GoldenEye and Perfect Dark?
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#9 Bansheesdie
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Plus, I like getting hatemail."Deepcut9

Based on that its a publicity stunt and nothing more.

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#10 TheOwnerOner
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Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

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#11 Pro_wrestler
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:lol: Make Perfect Dark/007 again and STFU. Yeah, there are only 4 FPS' on consoles that I even like, Halo being one of them. If their smart, they will just make HAZE, 007 with current-gen graphics.
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#12 Paul_Phoenicks
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This is 2007. I don't care about Halo 2 talk.
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#13 YEZZER
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im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone
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[QUOTE="Newnab"]

Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

DisPimpin

Could it be based on the fact that these are the same guys that made GoldenEye?

Nope. Because if it was it would've been hyped before it was made PS3 timed exclusive. And it wasn't.

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[QUOTE="Newnab"]

Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

DisPimpin
Could it be based on the fact that these are the same guys that made GoldenEye?

UM WRONG. these guys are like producers and minor dudes from that team. Rares best were gone to other devs or just gone period. The director, lead programmers, story writers for PD, etc are not on this team. TImesplitters plays alot like an upgraded perfect dark and goldeneye but it lacks that Rare greatness and u cant tell. There are so many main people from that goldeneye and PD dev team missing, giving these guys credit for that game is BS.
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im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone YEZZER

Halo 2 is almost 4 years old,

and is still the 2nd most played game on XBL, right behind Gears of War.

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#17 organic_machine
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Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

TheOwnerOner

Halo, sure. Halo 2, no way. Multiplayer isn't in itself enough to justify naming a game the godfather of console FPS. and multiplayer was the only thing of value in Halo 2.

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#18 -Xeno-
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He's right though. The single player is repetitive, mediocre garbage and the multiplayer is a n00b fest filled with one of the worst community's I've ever seen.

At least theys eem to have fixed this judging by the Halo 3 beta....though no doubt the poor community will still be there :(

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#19 jg4xchamp
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oh and also Halo 2 was better than the Timesplitters games these guys made.Awesome games oh by the way. I want a number 4. anyway back on topic compared to what Halo 2 has versus goldeneye and perfect dark yeah Halo 2 beats those as well.

Plus personally i loved Halo 1s storyline. and Halo 2s was done very well, just a very bad ending no body liked. Seriousaly that campaign got hated on just like MGS 2 because of the other character. its kind of stupid IMO. the story was good. the ending stunk thats all.
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#20 DisPimpin
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="Newnab"]

Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

jg4xchamp

Could it be based on the fact that these are the same guys that made GoldenEye?

UM WRONG. these guys are like producers and minor dudes from that team. Rares best were gone to other devs or just gone period. The director, lead programmers, story writers for PD, etc are not on this team. TImesplitters plays alot like an upgraded perfect dark and goldeneye but it lacks that Rare greatness and u cant tell. There are so many main people from that goldeneye and PD dev team missing, giving these guys credit for that game is BS.

Really?

http://blogs.ign.com/HazeGame

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#21 MrGrimFandango
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Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

TheOwnerOner

That would be Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, they are 10x Halo ever could be.

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#22 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

organic_machine

Halo, sure. Halo 2, no way. Multiplayer isn't in itself enough to justify naming a game the godfather of console FPS. and multiplayer was the only thing of value in Halo 2.

id argue that the story was worth it 2. it had a great story bad ending though. I was ticked at the ending. but the story was very well done. it brought new aspects. people hate on the arbiter because hes basically the raiden of Halo. which is sad because personally MGS 2>MGS 3 in story as well. allthough i thought Halo 1>Halo 2 and MGS 1>MGS 2>MGS 3
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#23 XaosII
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[QUOTE="YEZZER"]im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone TheOwnerOner

Halo 2 is almost 4 years old,

and is still the 2nd most played game on XBL, right behind Gears of War.

If we base on how good a game is based on how many people play it, Halo 2 already lost to several titles.

The Haze developer is exaggerating...but there is a reason why the lower scoring Halif-Life 2 did win over Halo 2 for FPSGOTY.

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#24 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="YEZZER"]im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone XaosII

Halo 2 is almost 4 years old,

and is still the 2nd most played game on XBL, right behind Gears of War.

If we base on how good a game is based on how many people play it, Halo 2 already lost to several titles.

The Haze developer is exaggerating...but there is a reason why the lower scoring Halif-Life 2 did win over Halo 2 for FPSGOTY.

It looses to serveral others,

But it kills thousands more.

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#25 BatmanBegins24
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Halo was the best console Single Player FPS ever when it was released and maybe still is.But Halo 2's online was revolutionary.It is one of the top 5 online shooters of all time in my opinion PC or not.And by far the best online for a console game ever.I don't understand how they can say that when Halo 2's matchmaking changed online gaming forever.No more having searching for servers and starting to play toward the end of a session.But it also gave you the choice to do that if you wanted to.You can invite people to a "Party" and create your own game where your friends and your friends friends can join.Or you can just press a button and let it take you to a new game.
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#26 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

MrGrimFandango

That would be Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, they are 10x Halo ever could be.

Sorry, Halo kills those games,

oh yeah, it also has online.

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#27 Verge_6
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So does Bungie. Your point?
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#28 hazuki87
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Calling Halo 2 mediocre is a little much. Its probably one of the top 10 best console FPSes of all time and its online matchmaking system is unparalleled even today. But it is overrated. Also I think the guy might be a little jealous. Free Radical's TimeSplitters games were never really any good and those guys peaked with Goldeneye.
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#29 nowakawon
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That guy is a moron. For one, he was asked what he thought the worst game was. He then says Halo 2, but changes his minds and says it isn't really the worst game. He knows it isn't. Any sensible person would know Halo 2 was NOT a bad game. This dev only wants to bring attention to himself.
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#30 norfair_dweller
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He does have a point. People make Halo 2 out to be far greater than it actually is.

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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="YEZZER"]im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone TheOwnerOner

Halo 2 is almost 4 years old,

and is still the 2nd most played game on XBL, right behind Gears of War.

If we base on how good a game is based on how many people play it, Halo 2 already lost to several titles.

The Haze developer is exaggerating...but there is a reason why the lower scoring Halif-Life 2 did win over Halo 2 for FPSGOTY.

It looses to serveral others,

But it kills thousands more.

Yeah, but because it looses and its one of the most talked about/hyped games, you're pretty much validating the developer's opinion. Its hype is unwarranted when theres several other games out there that are played by more people, even over a longer period of time.

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Calling Halo 2 mediocre is a little much. Its probably one of the top 10 best console FPSes of all time and its online matchmaking system is unparalleled even today. But it is overrated. Also I think the guy might be a little jealous. Free Radical's TimeSplitters games were never really any good and those guys peaked with Goldeneye.hazuki87

TimeSplitters had some of the most enjoyable multiplayer I've ever played.

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#33 Killfox
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I think that dev took the words right out of my mouth and put into something even better. I think im going to use that quote from now.
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#34 DooMiNo
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People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

TheOwnerOner

I would actually say that Goldeneye wins that title pretty easy, but if you look a little more modern then perhaps you are true. But then again, I don't really see what in the original Halo and Halo 2 that made it so overhyped, yes it's good and I enjoyed playing it but I don't see it as one of my top5 first person shooters.

OT:
There is a good chance that this is a joke/trick to make it appear more on forums like this ;)

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#35 mijkil
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um......

Ive never played halo 1 or 2

and im not really impressed by what ive seen of halo3

but if this guy hates halo so much why the hell is his game such a blatant halo rip-off???

Lame........

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#36 Javy03
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Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

TheOwnerOner

That might speak more about the quality of online games currently available then the quality of the game.

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[QUOTE="hazuki87"]Calling Halo 2 mediocre is a little much. Its probably one of the top 10 best console FPSes of all time and its online matchmaking system is unparalleled even today. But it is overrated. Also I think the guy might be a little jealous. Free Radical's TimeSplitters games were never really any good and those guys peaked with Goldeneye.norfair_dweller

TimeSplitters had some of the most enjoyable multiplayer I've ever played.

I found the games sort of archaic. I mean for the time they were released they were way behind. Its not that the games were bad, they just never were really all that good. Though I bet multiplayer was probably fun. I'll admit I didnt play a whole lot of it.

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#38 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

jg4xchamp

Halo, sure. Halo 2, no way. Multiplayer isn't in itself enough to justify naming a game the godfather of console FPS. and multiplayer was the only thing of value in Halo 2.

id argue that the story was worth it 2. it had a great story bad ending though. I was ticked at the ending. but the story was very well done. it brought new aspects. people hate on the arbiter because hes basically the raiden of Halo. which is sad because personally MGS 2>MGS 3 in story as well. allthough i thought Halo 1>Halo 2 and MGS 1>MGS 2>MGS 3

It did had a great story. The problem with the story, however, was its presentation. The only thing redeeming about the Halo 2 campaign was the arbiter. everything else was lame. Also, bungies level designers only seem to put effort in the multiplayer maps. Cause somehow the multiplayer maps are well designed, but the single player maps are garbage.

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#39 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="YEZZER"]im, pretty sure everyone hates halo 2, even lemming dont n=like it. the halo serious just sells on hype, and with the 3rd one coming out it seems as if the hype has calmed down and shifted elsswhere...................................killzone 2 anyone XaosII

Halo 2 is almost 4 years old,

and is still the 2nd most played game on XBL, right behind Gears of War.

If we base on how good a game is based on how many people play it, Halo 2 already lost to several titles.

The Haze developer is exaggerating...but there is a reason why the lower scoring Halif-Life 2 did win over Halo 2 for FPSGOTY.

It looses to serveral others,

But it kills thousands more.

Yeah, but because it looses and its one of the most talked about/hyped games, you're pretty much validating the developer's opinion. Its hype is unwarranted when theres several other games out there that are played by more people, even over a longer period of time.

The 3rd episode is just around the corner,

ofcourse people are going to start talking about it again.

The hype did not come on accident,

It's rightfully earned, there is no secret on why Halo is a great game.

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#40 dubvisions
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Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

Newnab

I think a lot of hype for Haze has been based on some of the nice images that we've all seen. That obviously doesn't make anything more true but it is better than "based off of the developer shooting their mouth off." And I seem to remember a lot more users in here praising the game before it was announced as a timed PS3 exclusive.

And doesn't MS "cash in" when they release it on PC?

None of us are falling for your denials.

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#41 Verge_6
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Wow, OTHER people thinking that the sotry of Halo 2 wasn't bad...I feel so happy.
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#42 DSgamer64
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He was asked what he thought was the worst game ever and he answered Halo 2, but then he said it's not the worst game ever in the same sentence :|TheWalrusBeast

If you read the quote, he says the game is the best game at being mediocre and he is right, Halo 2 is completely mediocre in all aspects, the only good thing about it is that the auto aim compensates for terrible aiming with a controller. I would not be suprised if Halo 3 gets an AA score or lower since essentially it is just another repeat of a boring franchise that I hope dies after its 3rd installment instead of being milked to death like other trilogies with spin offs like Lord of the Rings and WarCraft.

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#43 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

[QUOTE="hazuki87"]Calling Halo 2 mediocre is a little much. Its probably one of the top 10 best console FPSes of all time and its online matchmaking system is unparalleled even today. But it is overrated. Also I think the guy might be a little jealous. Free Radical's TimeSplitters games were never really any good and those guys peaked with Goldeneye.hazuki87

TimeSplitters had some of the most enjoyable multiplayer I've ever played.

I found the games sort of archaic. I mean for the time they were released they were way behind. Its not that the games were bad, they just never were really all that good. Though I bet multiplayer was probably fun. I'll admit I didnt play a whole lot of it.

But the real deal with the Ts games was that they weren't aiming to make games modern of up to date. they only made them because they wanted to make a good fun solid game. and that is what they did. Haze, however, is them getting serious. I don't actually know if they are able to pull it off this time.

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#44 Bansheesdie
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Halo 2 is still better then most of these half ass shooters what are coming out.

People can hate all they want, but Halo is the Godfather of console shooters.

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Halo, sure. Halo 2, no way. Multiplayer isn't in itself enough to justify naming a game the godfather of console FPS. and multiplayer was the only thing of value in Halo 2.

Combat Evolved deffiantly is, though Halo 2 can be Sonny. Strong and fierce, but not too well rounded. Halo 3 will be Michael and Killzone 2/Haze can be Fredo.

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#45 Newnab
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Hah. Unsurprising.

Haze's hype and selling power is ENTIRELY based off of the developer shooting their mouth off and being "Oh, we're going to take on Halo 3 for you, Sony fans!" which makes the Sony fans go wild and buy it in droves...

And then they cash in a few months later by releasing it on 360 with the tag "PS3's best selling game comes to 360!" and is bought by tonnes of 360 fanboys.

I'm not falling for it.

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I think a lot of hype for Haze has been based on some of the nice images that we've all seen. That obviously doesn't make anything more true but it is better than "based off of the developer shooting their mouth off." And I seem to remember a lot more users in here praising the game before it was announced as a timed PS3 exclusive.

And doesn't MS "cash in" when they release it on PC?

None of us are falling for your denials.

If the hype for Haze was based off the images, again, the hype would've started when they RELEASED those images, which was aaages before they announced timed exclusivity. Haze was shown off, I remember, in OXM a good two or three months at least before the timed exclusivity, and I'm sure OPM or any other Playstation mag would've had somethimg similar.

And if you think there was real hype for Haze before said timed exclusivity was announced, you're crazy. Because there just wasn't. Though I'm open to persuasion if you feel like going back that far in the forums and taking a look. You can deny this if you want, it doesn't especially matter to me. But you're the one who may (potentially) be tricked into buying a (possibly) bad game by Haze's clever marketing decisions.

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[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"]He was asked what he thought was the worst game ever and he answered Halo 2, but then he said it's not the worst game ever in the same sentence :|DSgamer64

If you read the quote, he says the game is the best game at being mediocre and he is right, Halo 2 is completely mediocre in all aspects, the only good thing about it is that the auto aim compensates for terrible aiming with a controller. I would not be suprised if Halo 3 gets an AA score or lower since essentially it is just another repeat of a boring franchise that I hope dies after its 3rd installment instead of being milked to death like other trilogies with spin offs like Lord of the Rings and WarCraft.

But he was asked what was the WORST GAME EVER, which is when you answer Big Rigs or Hour of Victory not a "mediocre" game. He is dodging the question and judging by his last statement about hatemail, the guy is just trying to get attention.

And am I the only that thinks Halo 2's campaign wasn't all that bad?

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worst!!!!????

whats leftto say?? ................

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#48 norfair_dweller
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[QUOTE="hazuki87"]Calling Halo 2 mediocre is a little much. Its probably one of the top 10 best console FPSes of all time and its online matchmaking system is unparalleled even today. But it is overrated. Also I think the guy might be a little jealous. Free Radical's TimeSplitters games were never really any good and those guys peaked with Goldeneye.hazuki87

TimeSplitters had some of the most enjoyable multiplayer I've ever played.

I found the games sort of archaic. I mean for the time they were released they were way behind. Its not that the games were bad, they just never were really all that good. Though I bet multiplayer was probably fun. I'll admit I didnt play a whole lot of it.

The multiplayer was really fun, but the single player I felt was throwaway.

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#49 Killfox
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[QUOTE="TheWalrusBeast"]He was asked what he thought was the worst game ever and he answered Halo 2, but then he said it's not the worst game ever in the same sentence :|DSgamer64

If you read the quote, he says the game is the best game at being mediocre and he is right, Halo 2 is completely mediocre in all aspects, the only good thing about it is that the auto aim compensates for terrible aiming with a controller. I would not be suprised if Halo 3 gets an AA score or lower since essentially it is just another repeat of a boring franchise that I hope dies after its 3rd installment instead of being milked to death like other trilogies with spin offs like Lord of the Rings and WarCraft.

I agree completely with what you said. There not enough original IP anymore. There all just remakes and rehashes.

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#50 ToScA-
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Halo 1 was godly and did deserveis praise, imo.

Halo 2 was a peasant in comparision and way overpraised; thus I somewhat do agree with him.