Haze Hype: Better Physics Than Halo And More Vehicles Than BioShock

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Before BioShock and Halo fans get up in a ruckus and start throwing bananas at the screen, you might first consider that Haze does have more vehicular and environmental physics, as well as dynamic vehicle damage, than the original Halo (i.e., Note that the headline does not read Halo 3 but just Halo). And yes, it does contain more vehicles than BioShock. But then again, no one is going to contest that Haze doesn't have more vehicles than BioShock. Anyway that was just to get the air clear before fanboys take the entire headline out of proportion.

Now on to business. We still have part 2 of the remaining interview with Rob Yescombe for you, as well as a few new screenshots to accompany the interview. You can check them both out below. And judging from the polls from
Haze Hype Day 6, it looks like a lot of you would prefer Haze to have a one-on-one with Kill Zone 2. It will be tough deciding what trick to pull out of the hat for both games, but I'm sure you all would probably like to be surprised. That will be for Day 8, just in case you were wondering. In the meantime, check out the interview and screenshots below.

CB Games: We've already seen the two jeep transport vehicles. But how many and what other kind of vehicles will be present in Haze?

Rob: Both the Promise Hand and Mantel have a number of vehicles at their disposal. I can't talk numbers yet, but the quad bikes are my personal favourite.

CB Games: Can vehicles be damaged or do they simply get destroyed? Or will certain vehicles be invulnerable like the Warthog on the original Halo?

Rob: The vehicles are destructable, and have progressive damage states. They'll fall apart just like you'd expect the real things to do.

CB Games: How destructible are the environments and how much of a factor will it play during shootouts?

Rob: There is a very thick layer of destructability in the game. We didn't want people to feel like they couldn't have an effect on the game world, so you can rest assured you'll be able to smash the place up a bit. As for how that effects things tactically, well, if you're hiding behind a corrugated iron barrier, don't expect protection from a grenade.

CB Games: What will the final shooting mechanics be like? Will the shooting mechanics center around being more arcade-like, or will it be more simulation oriented, like Brothers in Arms or Ghost Recon?

Rob: It's certainly not a sim, but your tactical approach to the game will change depending which side you're on. For the more gung-ho player, Mantel will fit them to a tee, but for the more wily players out there, The Promise Hand will be ideal.

And that concludes part 2 of our interview with Rob. You can check out those screenshots and be sure to look for the Haze Hype Button icon to the left side of the screen if you want to take a look at our previous coverage of Haze.

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omg i cannot wait for this game! the anitcipation is killing me!

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#2 xjet039
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just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.
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#3 Hot_Potato
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Better physics =/= Better game
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#4 emawk
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Bioshock has vehicles?
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#5 Bansheesdie
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Does BioShock even have any vehicles?

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#6 the-very-best
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I'm buying Haze when I get a PS3.

I know FRD are talented and I expect this game to have the great SP and MP it's been hyped by FRD to have. They're good devs so I'm expecting good things from Haze.

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just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.xjet039
lol, that reminds me of good ol' Seinfeld. :lol:
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I have a question about Haze's physics, does the vegetation respond to players, bullets, explosions, etc.?
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#9 Tri-valley
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Bioshock has vehicles?emawk

Fear the Bathysphere! :D

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Does BioShock even have any vehicles?

Bansheesdie

I don't think so :lol:

And he was talking about Halo, as in Halo CE.

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#11 Callofdutynoob
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Wtf? I never herd about Vehicles in Bioshock. And If you seen the physics in Halo. Well they arnt that great.
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#12 astiop
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This just in:

Haze- more guns than rome:total war and better graphics than doom!

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#13 Harbadakus
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More vehicles than Bioshock!!? must get this game!! :shock:
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#14 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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okay so...first you state your "argument"...then you state why your "argument" is absolutely pointless and isn't really a valid argument.

This is just pathetic.

Halo 3 is better than killzone 2 because killzone 2 has less master chief's!!! That's essentially what you said.

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#15 Tri-valley
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This just in:

Haze- more guns than rome:total war and better graphics than doom!

astiop

Better textures than Katamari. Better soundtrack than Bulletwitch. :P

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#16 Zandeus
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"more vehicles than Bioshock" ??? Oh, btw, BREAKING NEWS, More people live inCHINA than on the MOON

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#17 jg4xchamp
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um who cares?

physics wise we have seen nothing special from this game. and when does Bioshock have vehicles. Bioshock is original, fresh,innovative, unique, etc.

For people who call Halo generic. In what world is Haze anything but generic and overhyped. because there is nothing special about this game either. atleast Bungie and Halo are a proven AAA series and a proven GOTY contender. all Haze has been is media hyping it to heck to take shots at Halo and the devs taking shots at Halo and bungie. Im just saying karma catches up to the people who talk to much junk when they cant back it up.


remember when Killzone was the Halo killer. yeah that turned out amazing didnt it.............

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#18 MikeE21286
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Does Bioshock have vehicles?
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Sure, whatever those guy say i don't know why they compare their mediocre FPS, with bioshock and halo.
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just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.xjet039
i know im a lemming. but you have Blue Dragon in your sig. isnt this kind of ironic.

haze=generic standard fps.

blue dragon=generic standard jrpg
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:D

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#22 cametall
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Bioshock has vehicles?emawk

That's what I said.

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A-AA at best, another standard fps that will be overshadowed by Halo 3, bioshock, KZ2, Cod4 etc.

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#24 djord02
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Bioshock has vehicles?emawk

Lol, yeah, why is the TC bringing up Bioshock's vehicles? As far as i'm concerned, the game doesn't have any, and it'll still be 10 times better than Haze.

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I have a question about Haze's physics, does the vegetation respond to players, bullets, explosions, etc.?Bansheesdie

I think so. I'm not 100% sure though...

And this William Usher guy (the guy writing all the Haze hype articles) just seems stupider and stupider each day... I wasn't even aware Bioshock had vehicles...

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Bioshock is genius and will take a dump on every other FPS coming out this year. Comparing it to any other game is an insult to Ken Levine.
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[QUOTE="xjet039"]just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.organic_machine
lol, that reminds me of good ol' Seinfeld. :lol:

lol, true:lol:

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[QUOTE="xjet039"]just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.jg4xchamp
i know im a lemming. but you have Blue Dragon in your sig. isnt this kind of ironic.

haze=generic standard fps.

blue dragon=generic standard jrpg

:P

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#29 Lilac_Benjie
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Haze will be a good game. Do not expect this to flop like Killzone 2 will.
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Sure, whatever those guy say i don't know why they compare their mediocre FPS, with bioshock and halo.VACASCULIADAS

You've played it? Because I was hoping to pick it up before it came out...Seriously, if this was an XBOX 360 exclusive, XBOX 360 owners would hype it so much...Of course, they'll deny it.

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A-AA at best, another standard fps that will be overshadowed by Halo 3, bioshock, KZ2, Cod4 etc.

elite_ferns1

What does that have to do with this thread? Lemmings will take any chance they get to bash this game, won't they?

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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"]Sure, whatever those guy say i don't know why they compare their mediocre FPS, with bioshock and halo.Albanian_Killa

You've played it? Because I was hoping to pick it up before it came out...Seriously, if this was an XBOX 360 exclusive, XBOX 360 owners would hype it so much...Of course, they'll deny it.

Albanian? :o Are you friends with Flyinghobo? I'm pretty sure I've played with you before in R6V. :P

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#33 TyrantDragon55
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So let me get this straight, the best they can do to hype this game is "Haze has better vehicle physics than a 6 year old game, and more vehicles than a game in which having vehicles wouldn't even make sense!"
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#35 astiop
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[QUOTE="elite_ferns1"]

A-AA at best, another standard fps that will be overshadowed by Halo 3, bioshock, KZ2, Cod4 etc.

Not-A-Stalker

What does that have to do with this thread? Lemmings will take any chance they get to bash this game, won't they?

It's not just lemmings, and this game is coming to the 360 as well so they don't really have a fanboyish reason to bash it. It just doesn't look as good as the games he mentioned.

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#36 DA_B0MB
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Please stop hyping Haze. It's going to end up like BLACK. A good game, but nothing special and forgotten because it's mulltiplatform.
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[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]I have a question about Haze's physics, does the vegetation respond to players, bullets, explosions, etc.?Not-A-Stalker

I think so. I'm not 100% sure though...

And this William Usher guy (the guy writing all the Haze hype articles) just seems stupider and stupider each day... I wasn't even aware Bioshock had vehicles...

What was shown at E3 didn't have it, and I don't think thats something that can be programmed in over night.

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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Haze will be a good game. Do not expect this to flop like all wii games will.no_submission

Do you really think Metroid Prime 3 has a bigger chance to flop than Killzone 2? If so, write it into a sentence so that I can quote you for future ownage.

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[QUOTE="no_submission"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Haze will be a good game. Do not expect this to flop like all wii games will.Lilac_Benjie

Do you really think Metroid Prime 3 has a bigger chance to flop than Killzone 2? If so, write it into a sentence so that I can quote you for future ownage.



Don't compare metroid prime 3 with that crap called killzone please..
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="elite_ferns1"]

A-AA at best, another standard fps that will be overshadowed by Halo 3, bioshock, KZ2, Cod4 etc.

astiop

What does that have to do with this thread? Lemmings will take any chance they get to bash this game, won't they?

It's not just lemmings, and this game is coming to the 360 as well so they don't really have a fanboyish reason to bash it. It just doesn't look as good as the games he mentioned.

It's mostly Lemmings. And the game is currently a timed PS3 exclusive (reason enough for Lemmings to bash a game), and I'm not even 100% sure if 360 and PC version are confirmed... Ubisoft has been flip flopping and strategically dancing around confirmation/cancelation of the 360 and PC versions since Ubidays...

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#41 drnick7
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To be honest, BioShock is at a whole different level than most other shooters. It's not even comparable to Halo or Haze in my opinion.
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[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="no_submission"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Haze will be a good game. Do not expect this to flop like all wii games will.VACASCULIADAS

Do you really think Metroid Prime 3 has a bigger chance to flop than Killzone 2? If so, write it into a sentence so that I can quote you for future ownage.



Don't compare metroid prime 3 with that crap called killzone please..

Judging from the MP3 vids I've seen KZ2>>>MP3

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It doesn't really matter. Haze can have way better physics than Halo but the fact of the matter is that it just WONT sell more than Halo, nor will it be a system seller like halo was.
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#44 deactivated-600fd0017f1ba
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What are these Halo 'physics' that you speak of? ;)
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#45 ironcreed
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PS3 is my preferred console, and I am anticipating Haze as well, as it sounds like it is going to have some great features, but all these guys are doing by continually playing the "better than Halo" card is setting the game up for unrealistic expectations, and hence, disappointment. Would it not be better to let this game stand on it's own merits, and speak for itself without having the devs go on overkill trying to generate hype by constantly touting how much better it is than Halo?

All this constant "Haze is better than Halo" talk does is prove that the devs are trying to get name recognition for their product by riding on the wave of the Halo name....which is kind of pathetic. Because it shows that they are not confident enough to advertise Haze on it's own, without having to constantly compare the game to Halo. I am no huge Halo fan, but I recognize it's success, and it is indeed a proven franchise, whereas Haze is a new IP that is completely untested, and unproven.

In my opinion, and just being a realist here, it would be far better for Free Radical to walk softly, but carry a big stick with Haze, and then take everyone by storm if the game is indeed going to be so good, rather than be overconfident, talk a big game....and then underdeliver when the final product is released.:|

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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="no_submission"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]Haze will be a good game. Do not expect this to flop like all wii games will.no_submission

Do you really think Metroid Prime 3 has a bigger chance to flop than Killzone 2? If so, write it into a sentence so that I can quote you for future ownage.



Don't compare metroid prime 3 with that crap called killzone please..

Judging from the MP3 vids I've seen KZ2>>>MP3



:lol: sure keep dreaming..
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#47 p0op
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how can any other tropical FPS say that it has better physics than crysis, plus bioshock has already got like what, 8 perfect tens? GTFO
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#48 p0op
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oh yeah and bioshock doesnt even have vehicles!:P when i read this topic i was like wtf??
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#49 anubis8515
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I doubt that bioshock has veheicles, let alone multiplayer, so very hard to compare to a multiplayer game. But yea Better Physics that a 6yr old game i would hope so...Now if you would have said halo 3 there would be a differnt agrument for this. But i will be getting it for the 360 anyways.
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#50 -Beowulf
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just another standard fps, not that anything is wrong with that.xjet039

qft