HAZE writer disses HALO 3

Well lets see Miyamoto took a shot at Halo, I believe the killzone devs before Killzone 1 came out took a shot at Halo, Sony took a shot at Halo/Microsoft, Free Radical took a shot at Halo, Cows took a shot at Halo, Bruton NYC took a shot at Halo, Some Gears of War players online took a shot at Halo, PC gamers took a shot at Halo, and whats that, yep even the easter bunny took a shot at Halo.

So its safe to say Halo is a target for critics, Funny as i see everyone shutting up when this game gets great scores and great sales to back it up. jg4xchamp

Lucky you. I never see people shut up when Halo gets great scores/sales. :( 

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I admire him for having the balls to stand up to "teh mighty hALO." myself.

Grive

You make it sound as if he did something noteworthy.

You don't need "balls" to spout idiotic nonsense... you actually just need a notable lack of maturity. Especially since the guy has no basis whatsoever to his argument.

Reality Check: Halo was great. Halo 2 was very good - not Halo, but hardly trash. There is no need to "stand up to" the hype of Halo. It's well deserved and well acquired. Bashing the game's "lack" of direct, obvious references to current world events just because your game uses them is childish and petty.

Yescombe's a small person, not a ballsy one.

MGS story is a convoluted series of unrelated nonsensical twists. If, like the game I'm designing, it were to focus more on the mundane happenings of a person's life - even a super stealth agent with an evil twin, it would trascend the immature pseudointellectual rabble that enjoys it and enter into the realm of adulthood.

Am I being Ballsy, worthy of admiration because I stood up to teh MGS!!!1, or am I just being an immature, insecure idiot? The only difference is that I'm just making stuff up in order to prove a point ;)

So, just because you disagree with him, it makes him an immature idiot? Just because one is not swallowed up into the hype that is Halo, and simply voices their opinion (which they are entitled to) about it, it makes them a small person? Have you ever spoken out in a negative fashion against something that was popular, but you did not particularly like? Of course you have....as have we all. It is called voicing your opinion.

Just because the guy does not like Halo, and is trying to challenge it, it does not make him a "small person", or an "immature idiot." :lol: It in fact makes him aggressively competitive in an industry that thrives on being competitive. Sorry if it hurt your feelings because your in love with Halo so much, lol. By the way, your judging him is no better than him judging "tEh MighTy HalO", as it is just a negative OPINION just as his is. You just happen to disagree is all. Are you a "small person" or an "idiot" because of it?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="AtomicLightbulb"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="AtomicLightbulb"]

You know what, the writer of Haze really shouldn't attack his competition that way; it isn't becoming and only time will tell if he's the more talented.

Second - Halo's storyline is fundementally appealing because Good vs. Evil is one of the most inherently appealing conflicts: Why was Star Wars so successful? And Saving Private Ryan? They appeal to that urge, that desire to be humanity's Savior against a dominant Threat

Halo doesn't need to be overly sophisticated. It doesn't need to busy itself with "satirical remarks about the nature of modern warfare." It's appealing, and that's what it needs to be.

kankthetank

Halo needed to appeal to a mass market; it needed a story that was universally appealing. It did its job - and the game does have sublety if you crave it, in the form of religious conflict; if you're truly interested, you can look into the Halo novels, which do an even better job of flushing out the world.

And for the record, if I think something is appealing, then I believe it has quality (at least in my eyes). 

Watch this cutscene from Halo 2; it shows you the quality that Bungie can really bring out with this franchise. Sure, it's not made up of entirely original ideas but it has it's own....umm...uniqueness...or personality, if you will. And I believe, it really is a quality franchise in terms of story and presentation as well (not just gameplay).

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWLLh8Sr6mM

Here's my favorite cutscene of the game and it shows that Halo's storyline, despite what the Haze dev might say, is actually filled with mature themes (if you're the kind of person that like to look for them in stories; and by "mature" I don't mean sex+ violence :roll: ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q9s7NNo-_A

[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]Some of the team in Free Radical (like the founder) worked on Goldeneye and a bit on Perfect Dark. Just FYI all you bashing in this thread right now.3picuri3

so that gives them free passes to act like melancholic emo boys? that bleeding heart screenplay writer can eat my teabag.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Well lets see Miyamoto took a shot at Halo, I believe the killzone devs before Killzone 1 came out took a shot at Halo, Sony took a shot at Halo/Microsoft, Free Radical took a shot at Halo, Cows took a shot at Halo, Bruton NYC took a shot at Halo, Some Gears of War players online took a shot at Halo, PC gamers took a shot at Halo, and whats that, yep even the easter bunny took a shot at Halo.

So its safe to say Halo is a target for critics, Funny as i see everyone shutting up when this game gets great scores and great sales to back it up. Vyse_The_Daring

Lucky you. I never see people shut up when Halo gets great scores/sales. :( 

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I admire him for having the balls to stand up to "teh mighty hALO." myself.

ironcreed

You make it sound as if he did something noteworthy.

You don't need "balls" to spout idiotic nonsense... you actually just need a notable lack of maturity. Especially since the guy has no basis whatsoever to his argument.

Reality Check: Halo was great. Halo 2 was very good - not Halo, but hardly trash. There is no need to "stand up to" the hype of Halo. It's well deserved and well acquired. Bashing the game's "lack" of direct, obvious references to current world events just because your game uses them is childish and petty.

Yescombe's a small person, not a ballsy one.

MGS story is a convoluted series of unrelated nonsensical twists. If, like the game I'm designing, it were to focus more on the mundane happenings of a person's life - even a super stealth agent with an evil twin, it would trascend the immature pseudointellectual rabble that enjoys it and enter into the realm of adulthood.

Am I being Ballsy, worthy of admiration because I stood up to teh MGS!!!1, or am I just being an immature, insecure idiot? The only difference is that I'm just making stuff up in order to prove a point ;)

So, just because you disagree with him, it makes him an immature idiot? Just because one is not swallowed up into the hype that is Halo, and simply voices their opinion (which they are entitled to) about it, it makes them a small person? Have you ever spoken out in a negative fashion against something that was popular, but you did not particularly like? Of course you have....as have we all. It is called voicing your opinion.

Just because the guy does not like Halo, and is trying to challenge it, it does not make him a "small person", or an "immature idiot." :lol: It in fact makes him aggressively competitive in an industry that thrives on being competitive. Sorry if it hurt your feelings because your in love with Halo so much, lol. By the way, your judging him is no better than him judging "tEh MighTy HalO", as it is just a negative OPINION just as his is. You just happen to disagree is all. Are you a "small person" or an "idiot" because of it?

~-~I don't know about you, but I play video games to get AWAY from this place.>.>...~-~The_PirateKing

Yeah me too, just to have fun killing non existent or non real foes, just to get away don't send me more of the real world in the video games.

So, just because you disagree with him, it makes him an immature idiot? Just because one is not swallowed up into the hype that is Halo, and simply voices their opinion (which they are entitled to) about it, it makes them a small person? Have you ever spoken out in a negative fashion against something that was popular, but you did not particularly like? Of course you have....as have we all. It is called voicing your opinion.

Just because the guy does not like Halo, and is trying to challenge it, it does not make him a "small person", or an "immature idiot." :lol: It in fact makes him aggressively competitive in an industry that thrives on being competitive. Sorry if it hurt your feelings because your in love with Halo so much, lol. By the way, your judging him is no better than him judging "tEh MighTy HalO", as it is just a negative OPINION just as his is. You just happen to disagree is all. Are you a "small person" or an "idiot" because of it?

ironcreed

no what this guy was saying is that the free radical guy words held no merits. He bashed Halo's story to not be the kind of direct satire Haze is. Yet many know that the Halo story has a lot of depth and its own mature themes, just not as direct as Haze will be. He can talk about next gen all he wants being more mature. But quality is quality. Halo is right now THE Quality console FPS. Also in no way is The Halo storyline anybit childish. Lets just put it this way, Halo is in no way chasing Haze, its Hazw chasing Halo. jg4xchamp

Thanks.

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On another note, someone said Miyamoto bashed Halo. He didn't. He stated he could've made a game with the kind of appeal Halo has, but preferred not to - that it wasn't his kind of game. 

[QUOTE="demon565"]lol yet Haze will not be better than Halo 3 or score higher. You can quote me on that . LawLo_O

no game will score higher than RehasHalo3... not because the game can be any good... but for the fact alone that its "teh halo" series...

like geow... because of the hype casuals and fanboys gave it, it got the score it did, even though it was storyless and had weak mutiplayer 4v4, and repetitive gameplay

*yawn*

A Farcry/Black hybrid.... have fun with this pos cows.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I admire him for having the balls to stand up to "teh mighty hALO." myself.

jg4xchamp

You make it sound as if he did something noteworthy.

You don't need "balls" to spout idiotic nonsense... you actually just need a notable lack of maturity. Especially since the guy has no basis whatsoever to his argument.

Reality Check: Halo was great. Halo 2 was very good - not Halo, but hardly trash. There is no need to "stand up to" the hype of Halo. It's well deserved and well acquired. Bashing the game's "lack" of direct, obvious references to current world events just because your game uses them is childish and petty.

Yescombe's a small person, not a ballsy one.

MGS story is a convoluted series of unrelated nonsensical twists. If, like the game I'm designing, it were to focus more on the mundane happenings of a person's life - even a super stealth agent with an evil twin, it would trascend the immature pseudointellectual rabble that enjoys it and enter into the realm of adulthood.

Am I being Ballsy, worthy of admiration because I stood up to teh MGS!!!1, or am I just being an immature, insecure idiot? The only difference is that I'm just making stuff up in order to prove a point ;)

So, just because you disagree with him, it makes him an immature idiot? Just because one is not swallowed up into the hype that is Halo, and simply voices their opinion (which they are entitled to) about it, it makes them a small person? Have you ever spoken out in a negative fashion against something that was popular, but you did not particularly like? Of course you have....as have we all. It is called voicing your opinion.

Just because the guy does not like Halo, and is trying to challenge it, it does not make him a "small person", or an "immature idiot." :lol: It in fact makes him aggressively competitive in an industry that thrives on being competitive. Sorry if it hurt your feelings because your in love with Halo so much, lol. By the way, your judging him is no better than him judging "tEh MighTy HalO", as it is just a negative OPINION just as his is. You just happen to disagree is all. Are you a "small person" or an "idiot" because of it?

Believe me, I realize that Haze will not match Halo in popularity, nor sales, even though I hope it ends up being a better game. I do not hate Halo, man, I just think that it's hype has outgrown what it actually is in reality, and people over hype the hell out of it. I still think it is a great game, and even plan to pick it up for myself, as I have a 360, as well.

I just respected the fact that this guy stood up beyond all of the hype as a competitor, and spoke his mind, and tried to compare his product against one of the biggest games to be released this gen. Just because you do not subscribe to the belief that Halo is the "champ" amongst FPS, it in no way makes you wrong, or a "small minded , insecure idiot", lol. It merely makes you an individual with an opinion who is NOT AFRAID to voice it.

You guys bashing this guy because he is speaking negative about Halo, is no different than him speaking negative against Halo, as it is just an expression of opinon. The only difference is that he is doing it as a competitor within the industry, and if he thinks that he can take on the monster that is Halo with HAZE, who is to stop him? Props to the man for giving it a shot, I say. Only FANBOYS will take offense to him talking negative about their beloved game, and in turn bash him because of it, lol.  

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

So, just because you disagree with him, it makes him an immature idiot? Just because one is not swallowed up into the hype that is Halo, and simply voices their opinion (which they are entitled to) about it, it makes them a small person? Have you ever spoken out in a negative fashion against something that was popular, but you did not particularly like? Of course you have....as have we all. It is called voicing your opinion.

Just because the guy does not like Halo, and is trying to challenge it, it does not make him a "small person", or an "immature idiot." :lol: It in fact makes him aggressively competitive in an industry that thrives on being competitive. Sorry if it hurt your feelings because your in love with Halo so much, lol. By the way, your judging him is no better than him judging "tEh MighTy HalO", as it is just a negative OPINION just as his is. You just happen to disagree is all. Are you a "small person" or an "idiot" because of it?

Grive

no what this guy was saying is that the free radical guy words held no merits. He bashed Halo's story to not be the kind of direct satire Haze is. Yet many know that the Halo story has a lot of depth and its own mature themes, just not as direct as Haze will be. He can talk about next gen all he wants being more mature. But quality is quality. Halo is right now THE Quality console FPS. Also in no way is The Halo storyline anybit childish. Lets just put it this way, Halo is in no way chasing Haze, its Hazw chasing Halo. jg4xchamp

Thanks.

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On another note, someone said Miyamoto bashed Halo. He didn't. He stated he could've made a game with the kind of appeal Halo has, but preferred not to - that it wasn't his kind of game.