HD remakes are pure milkage.

I mean seriously. Who didn't play all the Jak and Dexter games all ready. The only thing different is it is HD. Big deal. The graphics were fine on the PS2. You can pick up these games for like 5 bucks a piece these days. The same is with sly cooper. The splinter cell series was a terrible HD remake. I don't think Chaos theory could look much better than it did on the Xbox. The graphics were amazing. Atleast on the 3ds the remakes are in 3d so its worth playing them again. Like Zelda on the 3ds also has upgraded graphics from the 64 version. They only put these ports on 3ds so they would have a better line up at launch until other new games could be developed. I myself will be boycotting these remakes.

I sorta agree. They're charging consumers a premium for a cosmetic touch up.

Be better if they were available as budget downloadables instead.

What can I say? Console gamers love their graphical upgrades.

Disagree. MGS HD collection in 60fps makes a Huge difference. also Shadow of the colossus without the framerate issue and jaggie and flicker fest is a god sent.

can people stop calling them remakes. They are re releases that got upscaled. I dont see it as milkage really. Its a collection of games for a good price on 1 disk. Its meant for people who missed out or just want to replay them and dont have the system anymore. Also being a trophy whore helps to :P.

I mean seriously. Who didn't play all the Jak and Dexter games all ready.

cyberstalker1

I didn't.

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Anyway, getting to play the MGS HD Collection was awesome. Worth it for Peacewalker and dual-analog alone.

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I mean seriously. Who didn't play all the Jak and Dexter games all ready.

lundy86_4

I didn't.

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Anyway, getting to play the MGS HD Collection was awesome. Worth it for Peacewalker and dual-analog alone.

me either, I never played a single jak and Dexter game

me either, I never played a single jak and Dexter game

ohthemanatee

I missed Jak 3... I mean, WTF? Lol. I was younger and didn't follow games as I do now.

You should play them. Fantastic games.

Indeed...but that won't stop me from getting Silent Hill and ZoE HD remake.

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me either, I never played a single jak and Dexter game

lundy86_4

I missed Jak 3... I mean, WTF? Lol. I was younger and didn't follow games as I do now.

You should play them. Fantastic games.

It depends on the Bundle. I think the MG one is fantastic I mean 3 games really? o_o

The Jack and Daxter one are 3 games also so that's fine. However the Ico and Shadow of the Colussus was more Fan Service and a little too much considering it was only 2 games should have been 30$ or at least included some kind of Art book.

i'll probably just buy this collection when I canohthemanatee

It's worth it, especially since they are typically "budget" priced. They offer a great amount of game time, and a solid story/character throughout the games (that I played :P).

It depends on the Bundle. I think the MG one is fantastic I mean 3 games really? o_o

Joedgabe

I was bummed that they didn't include MGS1 at first, but I couldn't play through MGS Peacewalker on the PSP due to the controls. It's damn solid on the HD consoles, looks damn good.

Re-releases are milkage. That is the way of Sony though. The way of the Cow.

I never played any of the Jak and Daxter games and don't plan on getting the HD Remakes either. I did miss the MGS2-3 so I will be getting that collection soon

It depends on the Bundle. I think the MG one is fantastic I mean 3 games really? o_o

The Jack and Daxter one are 3 games also so that's fine. However the Ico and Shadow of the Colussus was more Fan Service and a little too much considering it was only 2 games should have been 30$ or at least included some kind of Art book.

Joedgabe

You know there's only two team ICO games that even could have been on such a PS2 remaster, right? The God of War collection that started it all was also "only" 2 games, but Sony did such great jobs with these that it basically got the ball rolling with that GoW collection. And actually God of War was "only" 720P/60fps, whereas when they created ICO they made it 1080P native and smooth framerates all around (if I recall ICO was 60fps, and Shadow was 30fps whereas Shadow had miserable framerates on the PS2). I think it's alot more than "fan service", it will draw in alot of people like me that never played these on PS2.

Just to prove that a collection with 3 games isn't always better than 2, look at the junk job Ubisoft did with Splinter Cell collection. They ddin't even bother optimizing it for 30fps, let alone 1080p/60fps. Each game in that collection should have EASILY been at least 720p/60fps or 1080p/30fps with just a little optimization work... but Ubisoft just went for the cash without putting the necessary time in.

That being said I definitely plan on getting the MGS set just because it sounds like it's a solid collection. 3 games is of course a better value, and if there are 3 or 4 PS2 games available I would hope they'd bundle them all together as one "HD remastered" set. The one I really want would be a Ratchet and Clank collection.

i agree with you somewhat. but i can tell you i never played shadow of the colossus, ico, MGS2 and 3, any jak and daxter games or any sly games

so ya these hd collections help me catch up although i didnt buy them all yet

It's good for those who missed out on certain games and don't feel like hunting them down. That's whyI'm getting the Silent Hill collection.

It depends on the Bundle. I think the MG one is fantastic I mean 3 games really? o_o

The Jack and Daxter one are 3 games also so that's fine. However the Ico and Shadow of the Colussus was more Fan Service and a little too much considering it was only 2 games should have been 30$ or at least included some kind of Art book.

Joedgabe

you do know ico was insanely expensive right.

It's good for those who missed out on certain games and don't feel like hunting them down.

SpiritOfFire117

Exactly.

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It's good for those who missed out on certain games and don't feel like hunting them down.

aznfunnyjunker

Exactly.

Finding an Ico ps2 game was a quest worthy of Indiana Jones

They're ports. It just so happens that more work is going into our ports these days. There's nothing wrong with ports. People who didn't get to play them initially can play them now.

They're ports. It just so happens that more work is going into our ports these days. There's nothing wrong with ports. People who didn't get to play them initially can play them now.

hakanakumono

MEGA MILKAGE! these hd remakes and downloadable ps2 games on psn are showing us the real reason sony got rid of backwards compatability for the ps3

People just started gaming this gen. You can't tell them that they missed out just because they weren't around last gen. It's not really milking either. No one is being forced to buy them.

MEGA MILKAGE! these hd remakes and downloadable ps2 games on psn are showing us the real reason sony got rid of backwards compatability for the ps3

Laxer04

Yes they are. Haven't bought a single remake and won't buy any, ever.silversix_

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It's good for those who missed out on certain games and don't feel like hunting them down.

dercoo

Exactly.

Finding an Ico ps2 game was a quest worthy of Indiana Jones

I didn't play most of the games in these hd rereleases. I got to play GoW and PoP, which I never even tried during the PS2 era. I like them. I hope they keep coming. And that extra money I'm sure helps fuel future games and such. Its good that devs can cash in on very good old games while fans get to re experience them and newcomers get to play them for the first time with slightly better graphics. Not bad at all I don't think.

If you're looking for a quick rental/playthrough they can be a good thing. It seems kind of pointless to buy or collect them though. In another two years you probably won't be able to play them... again.

I don't about you guys but that milk tastes really good when you get 2-3 games for 40 bucks.

Man people b**** about HD rereleases like it affects anything... I mean games have been getting rereleased across all sorts of different systems for as long as gaming has been around. Why is that a problem this gen?

Milkage usually implies hurting the franchise or something doesn't it? (ie: Continuing the metal gear franchise, and letting the story/characters get ridiculous, etc)

What's wrong with releasing HD remakes? They've been doing this since forever, havn't they? Konami collection, etc..

They make them because they know there's a demand.

MEGA MILKAGE! these hd remakes and downloadable ps2 games on psn are showing us the real reason sony got rid of backwards compatability for the ps3

Laxer04

Also, remember that when Sony made the descision to remove backwards compatability, Sony was still bleeding out money left and right, losing money on every PS3 sold, while at the same time making HUGE profit on every PS2 sold. Remove backwards compatability = people will keep buying PS2s, therefore they will keep making money. They were DEEP in the red with no other option, and the last thing they needed was this pretty little revenue stream dissapearing because people stopped buying PS2s and just bought PS3's instead.

Now as for the HD remakes, this was never Sony's original plan. The whole PS2 HD collections thing started with God of War. Sony and the God of War team posted on the Playstation Blog asking God of War fans what they wanted to see in the collectors edition of God of War 3. An overwhelming number of responses were "we want to see HD remasters of GoW 1 &2" and it was originally going to be in the Collectors Edition of GOW3, but instead, they made it a standalone retail release, and it ended up selling 2 million units. Then team Ico saw this, and started meeting with Sony about an Ico/SoC collection because he wanted one. Then every other Sony developer (and 3rd parties) followed suit, and this is what has come of it.

At the end of the day it doesnt really bother me because the devs have said themselves that it doesnt take much effort and resources to port it over anyways, and it doesnt take away from the development of new games.

I love HD remakes. I was PC gamer till this gen, so I couldnt really enjoy games lice Ico, SotC, MGS, etc.

I only agree if I own the games they are re-releasing. :P

But I have never played any of the games that have been recently re-released, (Ico, SoTC, Jaks, Slys, MGS2/PeaceWalker)

So they are kinda cool for someone like me who hasn't played them yet.

It's just repackaging so people like me that didn't get the game can still get it.

Also "duh".

Yea pretty much

companies gonna be companies

I actually haven't played any Jak and Dexter game.funsohng

Me too, so that collection is welcomed.