[QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="mikemil828"][QUOTE="latinrage69"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]lol, lemmings buying a horde of HD-DVD discs in order to make HD-DVD look better, can't say I'm surprisedmikemil828
they weren't lemmings. they were hd dvd fans from avsforum.com. these people are home theatre aficionados, most of whom also own bd players (predominantly ps3's). next time read the links before regurgitating fanboy redirect.
Why would these 'home theatre aficionados' hurt their hobby and try and extend the format war even further than it has to through pointless measures like driving up HD-DVD sales on amazon for a week or so, so that lemming around here would declare victory.
As for most of the hd - dvd fans in the avsforum supposedly owning ps3s, that's a rather bold claim to make seeing that a quick glance in the forums pertaining to HD-DVD seem to have plenty of threads bashing blu ray (and by extension, the ps3) and there are members named 'xboxboi' and such. Nonpartisan indeed.
it was the 1 year anniversary of the introduction of the format. they celebrated this buying hd dvd's, duh. most companies institute a price drop or limited time offers for each anniversary.
most do indeed own bd players. even those that do own them still prefer hd dvd over bd because of the number of quality video titles (visually) that are out. most early bd transfers used mpeg 2 and were poor transfers at best, this is when everyone thought that bd was a joke at its price. poor quality titles at high prices = no slae. also, most hd dvd titles include dolby truehd audio, were as a handful of bd titles have this. also, the HDi being mandatory were BD-J is, still to this date, incomplete and optional. HDi and BD-J offer interactive movies features and pip. no bd player on the market fully complies to BD-J standards (because the standards have not been finalized and wont until oct 21.) this means all bd players purchased now or before oct 21. are obsolete because they will not be able to play future bd titles at the their full capacity.
at avsforum, just like here, there are fanboys. xboxboi is, duh, an xbox fanboy and an hd dvd fanboy. beatboy77, is the biggest, most outspoken bd fan. he can be considered the twinblade105 or keywii of the avsforum. also, you went to the hd dvd forum post where thay bash bd. the bd forum bashes hd dvd all the time. you have to go tho the hd/bd discussion forum (their version of system wars) to see most of the unbiased users. beware of the fanboys however, because there, just like here, they troll around from thread to thread.
Doesn't matter if it was the 1st Anniversary of HD-DVD, the cows sure aren't waiting for the 1st anniversary of Blu-Ray to counter, and it's unlikely that the HD folks will take this retaliation sitting down.
Still you make the assertion that most of those guys on those forums have both types without much in the way of proof beyond just to trust you, and how am I supposed to trust you when you make the claim that 'most hd-dvd titles include Dolby TrueHD' when only around 23 or so HD-DVD titles have it?
what the bd fanboys/cows in that forum are doing is called damage control. something sony taught them very well. also, you don't have proof that most avsmembers aren't neutral so this point will never go anywhere for either of us. i'll give you the point about most hd dvd's not having dolby true hd. here's a list. that's 33 hd dvd's compared to 4 bd's that have true hd audio. on the other hand, to get full true hd, you need hdmi 1.3 and an avr that can process audio from it or analog audio outputs/inputs for the player and avr.
You don't need Dolby TrueHD in order to get 'true hd audio', Blu Ray discs usually go with good ol' uncompressed linear pcm, which provides 'true hd audio' without need the new fangled hdmi 1.3,
here's a link for you to read through. read it carefully. lpcm takes up too much space and bandwidth. dolby true hd is a lossless compression technique which allows for the audio soundtrack to be bit for bit identical to the master but it uses less space and bandwidth. the bandwidth saved can then be used for the video or the interactive features. yes you do need hdmi 1.3 or analog outputs due to high overall bandwidth traffic from the disk.
It may be too much for HD-DVD, but not for Blu-Ray with it's extra space and bandwidth. According to the link you so helpfully provided, Blu Ray has 48 Mbps total mux bandwidth and the largest PCM track only takes up 18 Mbps, and the companies that use the 50 GB blu ray disc seem to have no problems putting in a 24/48 LPCM audio on their titles. And for all the benefits of Dolby True HD, only relatively few discs actually put in 24/48 sound.
Anyway like the folks on that forum you helpfully linked, we can debate this all day without result, so lets not, ok?
ok let's not, but i would like to leave this saying, though the audio is 18mbps, the video on average is 20mbps (for mpeg-2). that's 38mbps and you're left with 10mbps for pip and interactivity. that's not enough. mpeg 4/avc and vc-1 allow 1080p video with 10 - 15 mbps that look the same if not better than mpeg 2 at double the bandwidth.
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