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The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :11-15 hours... :lol:
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." Alexander22Redn
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." hobbit93
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Obviously they state they have uncompressed data on there, so it must not of been that much of a struggle.Heil68
11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." hobbit93
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
i guess all other 360 games are like that /sarcasm
lol at m$ for use dvd like last gen. cheap and charge for onlinegoldplusI have a feeling that you've never tryed Xbox Live.
Oblivion has 50 hours of recorded dialogue and over an hour of music in game. And it takes approx 4.5GB.
HS a 10-12 hour game needed over 24GB :roll:
[QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." lagreendown
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Are you serious?
You actually have a hard time believing that Mass Effect has twice (if not much more) as much more dialogue than HS?
One doesn't need a link for that, the only proof one needs is common sense :|
obviously they need space for all the audio, but if youve played the demo have you seen the huge backgrounds, obviously that takes up lots of space, something many games dont have-PS360-
Are these backgrounds fully interactive? Can you get to them? No I didn't think so. A lot of the time these nice backgrounds are basically 2D pics, as seen in Oblivion, GT series and plenty of other games.
I don't get it... How can developers make a game like Oblivion take up only about half the space on a DVD disc, but all the PS3 developers are using almost all the space on a single side of a blu-ray disc. Can anyone explain this to me, logically?O_Lineman17
Sometimes they put in lots of different region languages onto one disc. Sometimes there's data duplication so the drive can read the information quicker and thus speed up load times. Maybe it might just be PS3 only developers just not bothering to compress properly? Maybe it's a bit of Sony propaganda? ;)
11 gigs of that is dialog in loads of different languages.. Thats like 9 gig being wasted on something im never going to use..
I don't get it... How can developers make a game like Oblivion take up only about half the space on a DVD disc, but all the PS3 developers are using almost all the space on a single side of a blu-ray disc. Can anyone explain this to me, logically?O_Lineman17
Its down to compression which i dont think they did. Dont see why though, we could have humongous games then but that would take a lot of time indeed.
[QUOTE="lagreendown"][QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." ToScA-
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Are you serious?
You actually have a hard time believing that Mass Effect has twice (if not much more) as much more dialogue than HS?
One doesn't need a link for that, the only proof one needs is common sense :|
[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="lagreendown"][QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." _AsasN_
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Are you serious?
You actually have a hard time believing that Mass Effect has twice (if not much more) as much more dialogue than HS?
One doesn't need a link for that, the only proof one needs is common sense :|
Just goes to show which developer has got the greater talent. BioWare- Mass Effect's 70 hours of gameplay; Steller graphics and cinematic sequences all on a 8.5GB DVD. Heavenly Sword- 25GB's of muddy textures and 12 hours of good gameplay.Pro_wrestler
[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]Oblivion has 50 hours of recorded dialogue and over an hour of music in game. And it takes approx 4.5GB.
HS a 10-12 hour game needed over 24GB :roll:
_AsasN_
Probably. But i doubt very much HS is going to top the size of Oblivion. Not in sound, not in enviroments not in anything, oblivion was huge in everyway.
Basically there just saying it to hype up the blu-ray and make more suckers buy it. Love the propoganda, the sad thing is people actually buy into it.
[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Just goes to show which developer has got the greater talent. BioWare- Mass Effect's 70 hours of gameplay; Steller graphics and cinematic sequences all on a 8.5GB DVD. Heavenly Sword- 25GB's of muddy textures and 12 hours of good gameplay._AsasN_
[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Not only that, 11 different languages in sound. Desperation to make bluray look needed. Sort of sadTnasty11region free Hello
arent blue ray movies not region free.
[QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." lagreendown
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?that psw mag. said they reached the final level in one day. no multiplayer and short single player the cows have a winner.
[QUOTE="lagreendown"][QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." ToScA-
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Are you serious?
You actually have a hard time believing that Mass Effect has twice (if not much more) as much more dialogue than HS?
One doesn't need a link for that, the only proof one needs is common sense :|
This is SW.
We don't take kindly on common sense around here:)
[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Just goes to show which developer has got the greater talent. BioWare- Mass Effect's 70 hours of gameplay; Steller graphics and cinematic sequences all on a 8.5GB DVD. Heavenly Sword- 25GB's of muddy textures and 12 hours of good gameplay._AsasN_
Dude! Did I hurt your feelings? I missed the part where you worked for them and you somehow know things will be different in the end. Anyways, I made a judgement based on the demo, if the final product represents that then the final product will have muddy textures that look like pureed cookie dough slathered accross concrete.
[QUOTE="lagreendown"][QUOTE="hobbit93"]11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." ToScA-
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
link?Are you serious?
You actually have a hard time believing that Mass Effect has twice (if not much more) as much more dialogue than HS?
One doesn't need a link for that, the only proof one needs is common sense :|
Your asking a Cow to use common sense? Thats like asking Bill Gates for half his money.
lol at m$ for use dvd like last gen. cheap and charge for onlinegoldplus
Exactly. BluRay FTW because it is totally necessary.
[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Not only that, 11 different languages in sound. Desperation to make bluray look needed. Sort of sadTnasty11region free Hello
region free if they can fit all the languages on, you think a game like mgs and FF will have all the languages on at launch?> hell no...
11-15 hours... :lol:[QUOTE="Alexander22Redn"]The developers came very close to using a dual-layerblu-ray disc because even with the size of the single layer blu-ray disc, they were having problems fitting all all of the game's audio data onto a single layer blu- ray disc. According to the developer :
"We use a mixture of compressed and uncompressed, but lots were compressed for the reasons people have stated.
Make no doubt, fitting all the audio in and not stuttering and being the the highest quality we could get wasn't easy, it was quite a problem even with the size of blu-ray. At one point we seriously considered dual layer Blu-ray cos of disk spaceissues." hobbit93
and mass effect probably has twice as much dialouge than HS...
mass Effect has about20,000lines of dialogue. About 400,000 words (which is equivalent to 4-5 novels). http://mefaq.sendu.me.uk/FAQ/Dialogue
Halo 3 also has about 40,000 lines of combat dialogue (excluding cutscenes). http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813227p2.html
They wanted 50 GB for a 10 hour button masher. :o How much would they need for a good game?JiveT
A 80 GB HDD...oh what a coincidence
EDIT: In case anyone hasn't realized this, a single layer Blu-Ray is 25 GB, Dual is 50 GB. So that means this game is near the 25 Gig mark, which isn't "that bad" for all the bloatware they put on it.
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