Heavenly Sword DEV: The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p ***DOWQNGRADE TOTAL***

[QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

Red_Cloak

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

El_Indigo

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

Read up newbs, your PS3 is a disaster.  Wait till you see it in action.  :lol:

[QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

AcidRonen

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

you know this how ?

[QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

El_Indigo

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

you know this how ?

i posted pics of int vs FP in this thread and haven't u ever played FAr cry with int lighting?

it looks garbage

[QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

AcidRonen

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

you know this how ?

i posted pics of int vs FP in this thread and haven't u ever played FAr cry with int lighting?

it looks garbage

u really cant base that on the way the game will look. it already looks great and i presume it will get better.

LOL damn lemmings are getting pwned by their own stupidityDeeetroy

The RSX is bassically a G70, and its very well documented the G70 does very poorly with HDR.  Thats one of ATI's X1800 series biggest advantage, much smaller performance hit when using HDR.

Not to mention the X1800 series can do MSAA even with FP HDR.
Cali3350

u dont know what uare saying.

[QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

McLarenAK47

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

you know this how ?

i posted pics of int vs FP in this thread and haven't u ever played FAr cry with int lighting?

it looks garbage

u really cant base that on the way the game will look. it already looks great and i presume it will get better.

i'm not saying the game looks bad t llooks amazing

just the lighing

FP lighing can make colors look a lot richer

[QUOTE="McLarenAK47"][QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="wudi09"] [QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

ATTENTION COWS

HD8 is crap, looks about as nice as the bloom in the Xbox's Fable

Welcome to last gen. :lol:

AcidRonen

Guess what newb, INT8 is also refered to as HDR8 ala HDR16.  Welcome to last gen.  :lol:

nope

indeed it's even crappier

you know this how ?

i posted pics of int vs FP in this thread and haven't u ever played FAr cry with int lighting?

it looks garbage

u really cant base that on the way the game will look. it already looks great and i presume it will get better.

i'm not saying the game looks bad t llooks amazing

just the lighing

FP lighing can make color look a lot richer

yah but with the new trick they found. it seems to me that it will be just as good if not better than FP. but we just have to wait and see.

This isn't an issue about PS3 hardware but about the developer's choice. When it came to Quality vs. Speed they choice speed. If they wanted to get the most of the graphics they would do full HDR but what then they would have to sacrifice framrate. And with the huge amounts of enemies on the screen and the amount of resources that are going to be put into the A.I, heavy particle effects, animations, physics, etc. upping framrate would be the better decision. And let's not forget that Sony is still pushing for a spring launch for the PS3, and if Heavenly Sword is going to make the launch date they are going to have to turn to time saving alternatives.

And the same goes for not doing 1080p. Since the PS3 supports a Blu-Ray format, 1080p is a must for movies. But for the developers, spending extra time in the development process for a feature that will work for only a privileged few who own 1080p HDTVs doesn't make the extra work worth it.

Well  Noa   says that :  

~ quality/precision is not affected at all, in fact I discovered several cases where FP16 falls short of precision while the color space we're using is doing a much better work.
Nonetheless there are other trade offs, hardly ever in this world you have win-win situations ~

 

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

This isn't an issue about PS3 hardware but about the developer's choice. When it came to Quality vs. Speed they choice speed. If they wanted to get the most of the graphics they would do full HDR but what then they would have to sacrifice framrate. And with the huge amounts of enemies on the screen and the amount of resources that are going to be put into the A.I, heavy particle effects, animations, physics, etc. upping framrate would be the better decision. And let's not forget that Sony is still pushing for a spring launch for the PS3, and if Heavenly Sword is going to make the launch date they are going to have to turn to time saving alternatives.

And the same goes for not doing 1080p. Since the PS3 supports a Blu-Ray format, 1080p is a must for movies. But for the developers, spending extra time in the development process for a feature that will work for only a privileged few who own 1080p HDTVs doesn't make the extra work worth it.

Diabloxl

this is exactly what i'm saying

it's not the PS3 it' the devs

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

Red_Cloak

that's not what he said stop twisting words around  you ignorent fool

TCHBO hard! Looks like your "it will look the same as the trailer" is out the window. And so much for hype claims about PS3 and CELL. 1080p my ass. Ryujin_X

wow u truly astound me. do u even read.

*looks at thread creator... goes away*  silverjiken

Thats what i thought........

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

El_Indigo

that's not what he said stop twisting words around  you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read.  Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM.  Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :|

look for yourself  http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7806&type=mov

[QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

Red_Cloak

that's not what he said stop twisting words around  you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read.  Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM.  Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

sure??? coming from and idiot

[QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

Red_Cloak

that's not what he said stop twisting words around  you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same resultsusing INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read.  Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM.  Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

Again learn to read

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess.  It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense.  Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

McLarenAK47

that's not what he said stop twisting words around  you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read.  Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM.  Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

sure??? coming from and idiot

OMG! TCHBO!!

In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. jechtshot78

do u beleive every word a dev says?

And the damage control ensues from the weak and feeble cows. RaniK_

actually its funny cuz this thread has been one huge selfownage

yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :| Canine_Knight

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess. It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense. Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

McLarenAK47

that's not what he said stop twisting words around you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read. Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM. Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

sure??? coming from and idiot

[QUOTE="Canine_Knight"]yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :| Ryujin_X

Lol, it's funny how none of those games actualy exist yet.

[QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess. It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense. Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

Red_Cloak

that's not what he said stop twisting words around you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read. Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM. Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. AcidRonen

do u beleive every word a dev says?

[QUOTE="Canine_Knight"]yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :| Ryujin_X

no it hasnt noob if u had read the the link you would know their getting the exact same peformance just with a different method

[QUOTE="RaniK_"]And the damage control ensues from the weak and feeble cows. McLarenAK47

actually its funny cuz this thread has been one huge selfownage

That's all Ranik ever says.

[QUOTE="Canine_Knight"]yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :| Ryujin_X

learn to read   he  said they are going to have the same same results  in terms of  HDR.

[QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. jechtshot78

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. AcidRonen

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

[QUOTE="Ryujin_X"] [QUOTE="Canine_Knight"]yet heavenly sword, lair, motostorm, MGS 4, The Getaway 3, Vision GT, F1, sonic, gundam, amored core 4, and warhawk, all proven real time, still look better than any 360 game :| Canine_Knight

no it hasnt noob if u had read the the link you would know their getting the exact same peformance just with a different method

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. AcidRonen

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

Should we believe you or a dev, now im confuse :D

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. AcidRonen

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

let's just wait and see Deanoc hasn't lied before   if you wan't talk to him he's a very friendly guy maybe he will explaine  how they've done it .

[QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. jechtshot78

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

i don't develope games but i have been taking C++

and graphics programing for 2 years

i have passed both classes with a 97 average so i think i know a couple of things

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess. It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense. Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

McLarenAK47

that's not what he said stop twisting words around you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read. Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM. Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

sure??? coming from and idiot

[QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. El_Indigo

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

let's just wait and see Deanoc hasn't lied before   if you wan't talk to him he's a very friendly guy maybe he will explaine  how they've done it .

ok El i will wait and see but i still have my doubts

[QUOTE="Red_Cloak"][QUOTE="El_Indigo"][QUOTE="Red_Cloak"]

Are you dense? He is saying they had to put the lighting down to 8 BIT in oder to put some sort of anti-aliasing in the game so it wouldent look like a jaggy mess. It isnt a new technique, MSAA is antialiasing. God some of you are so dense. Too funny.

This is why MS put the 10 MB of EDRAM in the Xenos.

McLarenAK47

that's not what he said stop twisting words around you ignorent fool

We are definately not using FP16 HDR anymore, Marco implemented a cool method to get the same results using INT8. Faster and with MSAA, Winner.

Learn to read. Xenos has a huge frame buffer and can afford high quality lighting AND antialiasing.

PS3 HAS NO 10 MB OF EDRAM. Period, that means crap lighting and crap AA.

sure??? coming from and idiot

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"][QUOTE="jechtshot78"] [QUOTE="AcidRonen"]

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]In the pinicle of lemming stupidity, READ THE DAMN THING. AcidRonen

do u beleive every word a dev says?

okay the topic creator did twist a couple of things like The Cell can't HANDLE HD16 or 1080p

but i hope u don't believe him when he said that he is getting the same effects without FP16

i don't develope games but i have been taking C++

and graphics programing for 2 years

i have passed both classes with a 97 average so i think i know a couple of things