Heavenly Sword will FLOP HARD!!

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#51 kungfuchaos
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ok, to everyone who said no jump button is fine. well, its not, if i want to freaking jump and dodge an attack, guess what, you CAN'T DO IT ..!!

or if i want to be cool and jump up then land an attack with the power mode sword, guess what, you CAN'T DO THAT TOO!!

more over, that means there's no platforming element in the game. so basically you just walk walk walk, until you find some enemies, then fight fight fight, so boring~!!!

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Have you played DMC, GoWor NG?
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#52 Sollet
Member since 2003 • 8288 Posts

heavanly sword will suck because its made by nintendo.

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What?

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#53 def_mode
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funny how people judged the game...its a demo.
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#54 Snugenz
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This is obviously the same demo they has at a past trade show, (i've definately seen a few vids of the demo on the net ages ago) so its probably a very old build that got McGuyver'd into a public release demo, so any frame dips, VSync issues will most probably be completely cleared up by now on the current build.

The gameplay is actually quite deep, mastering the blocking/countering system will take alot more time than any technique on GoW did, Ranged and Power attacks only work well on particular enemies so you need to be constantly switching them out, which adds yet another element to the combat that you'll have to pay attention to.

I really hate when people bash a demo/beta because they will most likely be flawed in some parts by their very nature.

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#55 ItsBriskBaby
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

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I'll save this thread for future ownage, thank you.
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#56 Peter_147
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]

I didn't notice any framrate problems... :|

No jump button? Timsplitters didn't have a jump button, does Timesplitter suck also?

Combos feel fine.

3 stance system works great.

If you feel like you can beat the whole game only using the range stance... well, you won't

Art style looks great. :|

Nariko is hot though! :P

washere12

No jumpo button, wow r u dumb, timesplitters is a FPS and it was a bad game by many ppl, and this game is a action adventure and not being able to ump is retarted, everyting else you stated is either arguable or true though

timesplitters was a bad game? hahahahahaha

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#57 dommeus
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Just out of interest, does anyone think it will be better than God of War? Obviously the graphics are better, but gameplay, localé and enemy wise.
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#58 Peter_147
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Just out of interest, does anyone think it will be better than God of War? Obviously the graphics are better, but gameplay, localé and enemy wise.dommeus

its still too soon to tell

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#59 snipe2004
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y

are we playing the same demo? i found it short and sweet and loved what the game has in store for us. you cant base everything of a 5 min demo and theres still a lot of time left for polish. cant wait to pick up another hit franchise.

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#60 StealthSting
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Wait there is no jump button on HS?... weird... one of the few action game I would play that didn't have such a feature... As long as there are combos that can put you into areal attack positions, then it's all good.
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#61 supermanfarr
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[QUOTE="Armored_cell"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

ok, to everyone who said no jump button is fine. well, its not, if i want to freaking jump and dodge an attack, guess what, you CAN'T DO IT ..!!

or if i want to be cool and jump up then land an attack with the power mode sword, guess what, you CAN'T DO THAT TOO!!

more over, that means there's no platforming element in the game. so basically you just walk walk walk, until you find some enemies, then fight fight fight, so boring~!!!

Mandingo101

OMG!! WHY DOU YOU NEED A JUMP BUTTON WHEN YOU CAN DO FLIPS AND EVADE ATTACKS WITH THE RIGHT ANALOG STICK????

You are obviously a n00b to this genre. All those you mentioned you can't do, I have done them. ITS IN THE FRICKEN COMBO LIST HOW TO LAND WITH AN ATTACK

:|

yeah, i know, i have pulled this off too, you can smash up the guy in the air and then you can start doing combo, but thats only when you do certain combo first. what i mean is games like DMC and NG, keep jumping jumping, until you find a group of enemies then land on them with an big attack.

plus, you didn't debunk my saying about no platforming element in the game ..........:|

Platforming? you played a DEMO kid.

BTW in Devil May Cry you don't "keep jumpin until you find a group of enemies and attack them" that's Ninja Gaiden. Devil May Cry is more about taking those group of enemies and attacking them in the air with combos.

Try Again.

that guy must really love god of war a lot if he is so strung up on playforming in action games. i think the devs removed platforming for a reason, cus they dont want this game to be like god of war. and noobs use the jump button to dodge in DMC and GOW, evade is much better in both games except when they make you do so on bosses,if you are letting more and more enemies gather up to the point you have to jump around like a mad man then you probably just suck at the game. anyways i think H

S will get a high AA average on gamerankings, should be a good game.




I thought the gameplay sicked also. On a game like this the jumo button is a must. The graphics were lame ngs.....them. Also I think its funny [eople are defending the game but now hyping AA what happened to AAA????? Maybe you wernt impressed by the demo, but just dont want to say it
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#62 5th_element
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Actually some of the things he says makessense ( jump is necessary for a god of war type game, hell i cant think about playing god of war without jump!!)

I have not played the demo though!! And i do think it'll be a AAA game!!

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#63 StealthSting
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Actually some of the things he says makessense ( jump is necessary for a god of war type game, hell i cant think about playing god of war without jump!!)

I have not played the demo though!! And i do think it'll be a AAA game!!

5th_element

Ahh but the jump button is not a necessity inside the battle mode of GoW... It's mostly outside of it tho... platforming and such.

In the battle mode of GoW you can perform jump attacks by pressing buttons and using combos outside of the jump button... Still you can and I did use the jump button a lot in the game, when it came to battle but in any case thats mostly my point about HS back there, that as long as it haves that, it won't be too bad in the battle mode at least... What does this say about the game outside of that? I have absolutely no idea...

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#64 acviper123
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y

Well... its on the forum, IT MUST BE TRUE!... that settles that, nobody will hype it anymore...

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#65 Game13a13y
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DID YOU PLAY THE SAME GAME THE REST OF US DID? The demo of HS showed off what is going to be an awesome game. The attack stances are incredible! The combos are amazing! The graphics are some of the best so far this generation! I guarantee to those who say this game wont score well that it gets no less than 8.5 here at GS!!kungfuchaos

yeah, i made 2 PSN accounts, i have one for US, and one for HK. that enables me to download both things on the US network and JP network.

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#66 furtherfan
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it's good, but no GOTY
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#68 Snugenz
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Its funny to see people say "don't judge a game by a playable demo". FNR3 sold thousands of gamers because their demo was good. If a company does not want you to judge a game before release they should not give a demo.kuu2

And IMO, the full game of FNR3 turned out worse than i expected after playing the demo and loving it, so it just shows dont base decisions entirely off a demo (which are nearly always based off an early build of the game).

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#69 granadavictor
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[QUOTE="Svarthek"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y


english is obvisouly not your first language, so I don't know what you mean by "the chick nothing like typical asian girl." Also if what I think you mean is correct, how is that abad thing? I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't understand.

arghm... ok, what i mean is, Noriko looks more like a Mexican than a Japanese, plain simple.

:lol:

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#70 chutup
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I actually agree that HS is not going to get AAA. I'm also disappointed by the lack of a jump button. However I still think it will be a great game, things like the stance system, physics and plot with acting by Andy Serkis will make sure of that.
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#72 Ericvon71
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y

To sum up the TC thread, he/she sucks at playing games!

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#73 lafigueroa
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I think Heavenly Sword might get A or AA, but only because prelimnary test runs show a very short experiance. Here's to hoping it's a little longer than currently reported
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#74 Echo13791
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i thought it was great, but no jump button bothers me. I always like at least being able to jump
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#75 coreygames
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I hope it is just because it is a demo, like a beta test, and not going to be how the main game is played. This is one of those gameplay>graphics issues where the sheer number of things on screen is interfering with how the game is played through means of lag. This is a MUST FIX problem.
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#76 dubvisions
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[QUOTE="Svarthek"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y


english is obvisouly not your first language, so I don't know what you mean by "the chick nothing like typical asian girl." Also if what I think you mean is correct, how is that abad thing? I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't understand.

arghm... ok, what i mean is, Noriko looks more like a Mexican than a Japanese, plain simple.

What a joke of an issue to have with the game. I'm pretty sure the devs and artists mixed different influences from different countries. I don't think she was supposed to be anything, just what she is. Grow up.

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#77 bad82man82
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Let me tell you this, 6 of my friends will buy PS3 when HS will be released.
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#78 dhjohns
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I thought the demo was way too short. That being said, I think the game has some real possibilities. No block button though and no jumping is strange. Also, you have to change your stances to block different hits. I am buying this game regardless but it would be nice if these things were added; however, with the demo being so short, these things may not be needed in the final, full game. It really did have a God of War feel.
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#79 kiwisama
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who can jump with those big blades and cannon anyways?
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#80 kniveshurt18
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Actually some of the things he says makessense ( jump is necessary for a god of war type game, hell i cant think about playing god of war without jump!!)

I have not played the demo though!! And i do think it'll be a AAA game!!

5th_element
I've never used jumping in GOW during combat because it wasn't designed for evasion. It was added for the platforming sections of the game. Not really bothered by lack of jump button, though the auto-block was kind of strange but considering that the gameplay is basically focused around countering attacks and mixing different stances to make crazy combos the fighting system is actually quiet deep and challenging.
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#81 darklord888
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I dont think it'll flop hard. I think it's a good god of war clone but from what I've seen GoW seems more fun.
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#82 Finale-
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I hate it when people judge an entire game from the demo, so I'll give you things that will be in the final version.

1. Game is said to be 12-14 hours long with replayability(which is a good length for an action game)

2. It features some of the best animations and character mocap ever.

3. It has another playable character that is nothing like Nariko and will change the pace of the game if you think it's repetitive

4. The demo was from GDC 2007, and the E3 2007 has already improved on all the things that were off in the demo(screen tearing and frame rate drops).

5. We know that there are enourmous architecture and draw distance filled with puzzles.

6. It has the best cut-scenes ever put into a videogame, says multiple previews.

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#83 h575309
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im pretty sure this guy either

A. Sucked at the demo, was pissed about it, and just says it sucks

B. Didnt actually play it

C. Is a little Mommas boy

this demo rocked... multiple gaming sites said so... and so did probably the biggest one IGN...

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/808/808598p1.html

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#84 mattyomo99
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just because you cant do the complicated combos dosnt mean this game sucks
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#85 mattyomo99
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I dont think it'll flop hard. I think it's a good god of war clone but from what I've seen GoW seems more fun.darklord888

do you ever read anything, there was an article like a few days ago on the net that said this is not godess of war, god of war is a fun button masher this is a perfected sword fighting game with percise controls

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#86 ItsBriskBaby
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

ok, to everyone who said no jump button is fine. well, its not, if i want to freaking jump and dodge an attack, guess what, you CAN'T DO IT ..!!

or if i want to be cool and jump up then land an attack with the power mode sword, guess what, you CAN'T DO THAT TOO!!

more over, that means there's no platforming element in the game. so basically you just walk walk walk, until you find some enemies, then fight fight fight, so boring~!!!

supermanfarr

OMG!! WHY DOU YOU NEED A JUMP BUTTON WHEN YOU CAN DO FLIPS AND EVADE ATTACKS WITH THE RIGHT ANALOG STICK????

You are obviously a n00b to this genre. All those you mentioned you can't do, I have done them. ITS IN THE FRICKEN COMBO LIST HOW TO LAND WITH AN ATTACK

:|

yeah, i know, i have pulled this off too, you can smash up the guy in the air and then you can start doing combo, but thats only when you do certain combo first. what i mean is games like DMC and NG, keep jumping jumping, until you find a group of enemies then land on them with an big attack.

plus, you didn't debunk my saying about no platforming element in the game ..........:|

Platforming? you played a DEMO kid.

BTW in Devil May Cry you don't "keep jumpin until you find a group of enemies and attack them" that's Ninja Gaiden. Devil May Cry is more about taking those group of enemies and attacking them in the air with combos.

Try Again.

that guy must really love god of war a lot if he is so strung up on playforming in action games. i think the devs removed platforming for a reason, cus they dont want this game to be like god of war. and noobs use the jump button to dodge in DMC and GOW, evade is much better in both games except when they make you do so on bosses,if you are letting more and more enemies gather up to the point you have to jump around like a mad man then you probably just suck at the game. anyways i think H

S will get a high AA average on gamerankings, should be a good game.




I thought the gameplay sicked also. On a game like this the jumo button is a must. The graphics were lame ngs.....them. Also I think its funny [eople are defending the game but now hyping AA what happened to AAA????? Maybe you wernt impressed by the demo, but just dont want to say it

Dude!!! Good Lord learn how to spell!!! You type like your 3 years old!!! There is a spell checker if you didn't know, try using it sometime. Plus you're full of s***! Every HS post you bash it. Face it the game is good, but you suck at it hence to why you probably hate it so much. Go die so more in NGS since you like it so much and stop trolling for God sake!
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#87 Soulja_West
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HS shouldn't be hyped. It wasn't that fun.
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#88 YEZZER
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y

this is coming from some one who has a metroid prime avatar........ yea ok im pretty sure u played it. from what i habe played of the demo it is amazing, an it was so short

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#89 Timstuff
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I loved the demo. I just wish it was longer and had a smoother framerate.
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#90 CR00K
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ok, to everyone who said no jump button is fine. well, its not, if i want to freaking jump and dodge an attack, guess what, you CAN'T DO IT ..!!

or if i want to be cool and jump up then land an attack with the power mode sword, guess what, you CAN'T DO THAT TOO!!

more over, that means there's no platforming element in the game. so basically you just walk walk walk, until you find some enemies, then fight fight fight, so boring~!!!

Game13a13y
You can definately dodge attacks with the roll button. I wish I could see a video of you playing. You probably have no idea what you're doing.
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#91 CR00K
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By the way, www.kotaku.com was the only site that didn't really like Heavenly Sword, but after they played their demo today, which had several levels, he loved it. I watched him demonstrating it live. Lasted about an hour and a half.
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#92 StealthSting
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Just played the demo... Wasn't overly impressed by it, but after playing it I have to ask this... How can you possibly be using that demo as a basis for your argument? Hell that thing was short as all hell.
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#93 Adrian_Cloud
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Heavenly sword, well people expected too much. its not even close to GOW. Dark Cloud 2 is a great game, i can't wait for the sequel.
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#94 rybe1025
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I watched the demo they showed on Kotaku today and it was showing the whole 2nd chapter much longer then the demos most were able to play. I did not see anything impressive. I think AA at most. It is just the basic hack n slash.
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#95 Drakier
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[QUOTE="Svarthek"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y


english is obvisouly not your first language, so I don't know what you mean by "the chick nothing like typical asian girl." Also if what I think you mean is correct, how is that abad thing? I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't understand.

arghm... ok, what i mean is, Noriko looks more like a Mexican than a Japanese, plain simple.

There are so many flaws in everything you say. First, you misspelled Nariko's name. Then you say she looks like a typical Asian and then you go on saying that she looks Mexican.(what kind of Asian people have you been seeing?) The combos don't feel weird, the animations are amazing. I highly doubt that you can beat the game with the range stance alone, how could you get pass the shield guys? I don't even know why you called its art style "stupid" when its just fine. Basically, your argument is so, very bad.(no offense)
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#96 Finale-
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I watched the demo they showed on Kotaku today and it was showing the whole 2nd chapter much longer then the demos most were able to play. I did not see anything impressive. I think AA at most. It is just the basic hack n slash.rybe1025

No, it really isn't.

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#97 messiah1
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I saw the full second stage demo of Heavenly Sword on Kotaku and it's not all hack n' slash, there are puzzles, cannons, bowing arrows, unlockable combos, finishing moves and great cut scenes as an award for completing certain stages.

I hypeHeavenly Sword high AA to low AAA (it might get an AAA because of the cut scenes.)

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I agree, heavenly sword will not be a AA title.
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#99 CyanX73
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this game is no AAA material. everything is medicore or downright sucks.

the flamerate has problem, no jump button, combo feels weird, the 3 stances system doesn't execute well, like i can heck everybodyjust by using the range mode by itself, there's no feeling of balance whatsoever, and don't get me started with the art style. so STUPID..!! the chick is nothing like typical asian girl ...

nobody should hype this trash. :?

Game13a13y

So many people are able to predict the future on GS that it's just amazing. An, btw, you guys complain about everything. You bash it for being a NGS rip off but when there's no block butto (you know, so the game feels like something different) you bash it for not having a block button. You say its a GOW rip off but when there's no jump button you complain? I see a pattern here: no matter what you're going to complain. Hopefully the reviewing editor doesn't have this same attitude.

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#100 ski11buzz
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yeah go and beat the game on hell mode in range stance. we'll see if you'll last 42 seconds. also keep in mind that most of the game devolopers cant beat the game on hell. this demo is old and framerates were fixed. i hate these stupid threads about the same thing