Heavenly Sword=The next Killzone?

Am I the only person who thinks Heavenly Sword is shaping up to be another Killzone, and by that I mean a huge flop? Just look at the similarities:

1) Both have been hyped as huge AAA titles.

2) Both titles looked extremely promising.

3) Both are published by SCEA and are (obviously) PS exclusives.

4) Both are developed by completely unproven developers. Killzone was developed by Guerrilla, which at the time had developed the impressively bad Shellshock: Nam 67. Heavenly Sword is developed by Ninja Theory, who used to go by Just Add Monsters, who's sole game is the completely unimpressive Kung Fu Chaos.

5) Also note that not only were both developers previous games bad, but they were in directly related genres tothe genretheir hyped game was in. Shellshock being a TPS where Killzone was an FPS, and Kung Fu Chaos being a 3D fighter and Heavenly Sword being a beat-'em-up.

So in conclusion for those who don't like to read even nicely organized lists, both games are scarily similar. Your thoughts?

Yeah but whos hyping it to be better than Microsofts version of God of War? Oh wait...Cedmln

Is that suppose to be funny? Don't get me wrong GOW is awesome. Played both but if this game flops it obviously isn't GOW, so what is your point? Heavenly Sword is not hyped v. a non-existent MS game. Pointless post FTW!

though i agree with your logic, Heavenly Sword actually seems to have some awesome potential now lair on the otherhand......kingofmaggots

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Yeah but whos hyping it to be better than Microsofts version of God of War? Oh wait...dhjohns

Heavenly Sword is not hyped v. a non-existent MS game. Pointless post FTW!

I thought HS was being hyped AA. Regardless, I'm still buying it.dmaximum

Alot, but not all, of cows are hyping this like its the second coming or something, I would say the hype around this (don't know why) is definately AAA.

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]I thought HS was being hyped AA. Regardless, I'm still buying it.blue_hazy_basic

Alot, but not all, of cows are hyping this like its the second coming or something, I would say the hype around this (don't know why) is definately AAA.

i agree .. it could flop big time

cows hype it because there's little else to hype .. unlike lemmings and sheep who are spoilt for choice this year

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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Yeah but whos hyping it to be better than Microsofts version of God of War? Oh wait...kingofmaggots

Heavenly Sword is not hyped v. a non-existent MS game. Pointless post FTW!

Excuse me? I think you are lost, here let me give you a map- Cedmin suggested that Heavenly Sword was being hyped to be better than an MS title like GOW. Since there isn't one (I have heard of Too Human the question is have you if you think it is MS's GOW title), I simply pointed out his comment was pointless and flame bait, and creatively I might add :D

I agree with most of that except the first one. Heavenly Sword is not hyped to be this AAA amazing game. People are generally interested in the game ........ people like the style , the heroin , and the cool looking arena battle.The animations and graphics look pretty good and Andy Serkis lending the voice talent is cool.It could be a hit or miss game , but right now the hype seems like borderline A-AA.

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[QUOTE="dmaximum"]I thought HS was being hyped AA. Regardless, I'm still buying it.dmaximum

Alot, but not all, of cows are hyping this like its the second coming or something, I would say the hype around this (don't know why) is definately AAA.

I can only assume you don't come to system wars very often ...

[QUOTE="kingofmaggots"]though i agree with your logic, Heavenly Sword actually seems to have some awesome potential now lair on the otherhand......game_masta14

Kung Fu Chaos is one of the funnest games of all time. How dare you say anything against it. :PNinja-Vox

had some pretty funny dialog, that's for sure...

While your accusations are spot on, you can't say just because two developers have a similar history that their games will also be similar.Bansheesdie

I agree with most of that except the first one. Heavenly Sword is not hyped to be this AAA amazing game. People are generally interested in the game ........ people like the style , the heroin , and the cool looking arena battle.The animations and graphics look pretty good and Andy Serkis lending the voice talent is cool.It could be a hit or miss game , but right now the hype seems like borderline A-AA.Nike_Air

Hmmm the hype must have fallen away in the last few weeks as realism sets in. So this begs the question, when and what will be an AAA exclusive title for the PS3? Games like Lair and HS all were being hyped as big time AAA's not so long ago (and still are by many people, feel free to check out the threads on them , I find and link them if you need me to).

EDIT actually not so much lair, its hype has disintergrated recently

Its kinda sad that upcoming PS3 games like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, Warhawk and Killzone 2 are hyped as being AAA but at the same time there's an overwhelming feeling that those will flop.

Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.dmaximum

I can't understand why so many people feel the need to hype so many average looking games on here. So many games are hyped forever and then when actual screenshots/gameplay are released all that hye dies.

Naaa it will good enough but AAA gs wont let it have such a highbeing a ps exclusive AgentA-Mi6

grow up

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.blue_hazy_basic

I can't understand why so many people feel the need to hype so many average looking games on here. So many games are hyped forever and then when actual screenshots/gameplay are released all that hye dies.

Naaa it will good enough but AAA gs wont let it have such a highbeing a ps exclusive AgentA-Mi6

Then why stay at a site that is so OBVIOUSLY funded by Microsoft? :roll:

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I agree with most of that except the first one. Heavenly Sword is not hyped to be this AAA amazing game. People are generally interested in the game ........ people like the style , the heroin , and the cool looking arena battle.The animations and graphics look pretty good and Andy Serkis lending the voice talent is cool.It could be a hit or miss game , but right now the hype seems like borderline A-AA.blue_hazy_basic

Hmmm the hype must have fallen away in the last few weeks as realism sets in. So this begs the question, when and what will be an AAA exclusive title for the PS3? Games like Lair and HS all were being hyped as big time AAA's not so long ago (and still are by many people, feel free to check out the threads on them , I find and link them if you need me to).

AAA hyped games in the recent past were God of War II , Zelda , Okami , Super Paper Mario , MGS PO , FFXII , Gears of War , Forza 2 etc ..... this game is nowhere close to that kind of AAA hype.

Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.dmaximum

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Naaa it will good enough but AAA gs wont let it have such a highbeing a ps exclusive Verge_6

Then why stay at a site that is so OBVIOUSLY funded by Microsoft? :roll:

GreatOff topic Board :)

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Naaa it will good enough but AAA gs wont let it have such a highbeing a ps exclusive AgentA-Mi6

Then why stay at a site that is so OBVIOUSLY funded by Microsoft? :roll:

Off topic

You brought it up, kiddo.

[QUOTE="dmaximum"]Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.PBSnipes

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I agree with most of that except the first one. Heavenly Sword is not hyped to be this AAA amazing game. People are generally interested in the game ........ people like the style , the heroin , and the cool looking arena battle.The animations and graphics look pretty good and Andy Serkis lending the voice talent is cool.It could be a hit or miss game , but right now the hype seems like borderline A-AA.Nike_Air

Hmmm the hype must have fallen away in the last few weeks as realism sets in. So this begs the question, when and what will be an AAA exclusive title for the PS3? Games like Lair and HS all were being hyped as big time AAA's not so long ago (and still are by many people, feel free to check out the threads on them , I find and link them if you need me to).

AAA hyped games in the recent past were God of War II , Zelda , Okami , Super Paper Mario , MGS PO , FFXII , Gears of War , Forza 2 etc ..... this game is nowhere close to that kind of AAA hype.

I completely agree its not an AAA game and I completely respect you as a poster so I'll bow to your opinion on the matter in regards to the hype :)

EDIT of course then someone comes in and says we can quote him it'll be an AAA lol how about we agree the sensible people are not hyping it AAA?

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dmaximum"]Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.dmaximum

Am I the only person who thinks Heavenly Sword is shaping up to be another Killzone, and by that I mean a huge flop? Just look at the similarities:

1) Both have been hyped as huge AAA titles.

2) Both titles looked extremely promising.

3) Both are published by SCEA and are (obviously) PS exclusives.

4) Both are developed by completely unproven developers. Killzone was developed by Guerrilla, which at the time had developed the impressively bad Shellshock: Nam 67. Heavenly Sword is developed by Ninja Theory, who used to go by Just Add Monsters, who's sole game is the completely unimpressive Kung Fu Chaos.

5) Also note that not only were both developers previous games bad, but they were in directly related genres tothe genretheir hyped game was in. Shellshock being a TPS where Killzone was an FPS, and Kung Fu Chaos being a 3D fighter and Heavenly Sword being a beat-'em-up.

So in conclusion for those who don't like to read even nicely organized lists, both games are scarily similar. Your thoughts?

PBSnipes

I am looking forward to Heavenly Sword, but there is one thing that disturbs me and that is that Microsoft turned down Heavenly Sword as a X360 exclusive before Sony signed them. This was because the team had already made the Kung Fu Chaos exclusive for Xbox. Wonder what Microsoft saw or didn't like about the game and development pitch enough that they turned them down? Especially with Microsoft tauting new IP's.

[QUOTE="dmaximum"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="dmaximum"]Actually I come to system wars often, but I hardly post. I think the game will be very good, but I will leave the scoring for other people to fight over. I just don't understand why so many people want this game to fail. It seems like it has a good story, nice combos, great graphics, and an attractive heroine. Sounds good to me.PBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Am I the only person who thinks Heavenly Sword is shaping up to be another Killzone, and by that I mean a huge flop? Just look at the similarities:

1) Both have been hyped as huge AAA titles.

2) Both titles looked extremely promising.

3) Both are published by SCEA and are (obviously) PS exclusives.

4) Both are developed by completely unproven developers. Killzone was developed by Guerrilla, which at the time had developed the impressively bad Shellshock: Nam 67. Heavenly Sword is developed by Ninja Theory, who used to go by Just Add Monsters, who's sole game is the completely unimpressive Kung Fu Chaos.

5) Also note that not only were both developers previous games bad, but they were in directly related genres tothe genretheir hyped game was in. Shellshock being a TPS where Killzone was an FPS, and Kung Fu Chaos being a 3D fighter and Heavenly Sword being a beat-'em-up.

So in conclusion for those who don't like to read even nicely organized lists, both games are scarily similar. Your thoughts?

Danthegamingman

I am looking forward to Heavenly Sword, but there is one thing that disturbs me and that is that Microsoft turned down Heavenly Sword as a X360 exclusive before Sony signed them. This was because the team had already made the Kung Fu Chaos exclusive for Xbox. Wonder what Microsoft saw or didn't like about the game and development pitch enough that they turned them down? Especially with Microsoft tauting new IP's.

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Am I the only person who thinks Heavenly Sword is shaping up to be another Killzone, and by that I mean a huge flop? Just look at the similarities:

1) Both have been hyped as huge AAA titles.

2) Both titles looked extremely promising.

3) Both are published by SCEA and are (obviously) PS exclusives.

4) Both are developed by completely unproven developers. Killzone was developed by Guerrilla, which at the time had developed the impressively bad Shellshock: Nam 67. Heavenly Sword is developed by Ninja Theory, who used to go by Just Add Monsters, who's sole game is the completely unimpressive Kung Fu Chaos.

5) Also note that not only were both developers previous games bad, but they were in directly related genres tothe genretheir hyped game was in. Shellshock being a TPS where Killzone was an FPS, and Kung Fu Chaos being a 3D fighter and Heavenly Sword being a beat-'em-up.

So in conclusion for those who don't like to read even nicely organized lists, both games are scarily similar. Your thoughts?

PBSnipes

I am looking forward to Heavenly Sword, but there is one thing that disturbs me and that is that Microsoft turned down Heavenly Sword as a X360 exclusive before Sony signed them. This was because the team had already made the Kung Fu Chaos exclusive for Xbox. Wonder what Microsoft saw or didn't like about the game and development pitch enough that they turned them down? Especially with Microsoft tauting new IP's.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Am I the only person who thinks Heavenly Sword is shaping up to be another Killzone, and by that I mean a huge flop? Just look at the similarities:

1) Both have been hyped as huge AAA titles.

2) Both titles looked extremely promising.

3) Both are published by SCEA and are (obviously) PS exclusives.

4) Both are developed by completely unproven developers. Killzone was developed by Guerrilla, which at the time had developed the impressively bad Shellshock: Nam 67. Heavenly Sword is developed by Ninja Theory, who used to go by Just Add Monsters, who's sole game is the completely unimpressive Kung Fu Chaos.

5) Also note that not only were both developers previous games bad, but they were in directly related genres tothe genretheir hyped game was in. Shellshock being a TPS where Killzone was an FPS, and Kung Fu Chaos being a 3D fighter and Heavenly Sword being a beat-'em-up.

So in conclusion for those who don't like to read even nicely organized lists, both games are scarily similar. Your thoughts?

Danthegamingman

I am looking forward to Heavenly Sword, but there is one thing that disturbs me and that is that Microsoft turned down Heavenly Sword as a X360 exclusive before Sony signed them. This was because the team had already made the Kung Fu Chaos exclusive for Xbox. Wonder what Microsoft saw or didn't like about the game and development pitch enough that they turned them down? Especially with Microsoft tauting new IP's.

[QUOTE="kingofmaggots"]though i agree with your logic, Heavenly Sword actually seems to have some awesome potential now lair on the otherhand......game_masta14

well waht are u trying to say about scea games god of war was scea and i last time i checked it didnt flop. lair looks promising ive seen nothing but good hands on interviews with both lair and heavnly sword . oh and im not talking about u with the first sentence.

though i agree with your logic, Heavenly Sword actually seems to have some awesome potential now lair on the otherhand......kingofmaggots

Naaa it will good enough but AAA gs wont let it have such a highscore being a ps exclusive AgentA-Mi6

i know gamespot is so biased. how dare they give gow series AAA rating. if only microsoft didnt sign their paychecks.:roll:

i never played kung fu chaos. it looked cheesy. on the other hand HS looks cool from pics and gameplay video i seen. i think this game will range around 8.5-9.2 imo. looks like i will buy this game when the game comes out unless i hear really negative things from reviews once released. As for Lair i am not interested in the game whatsoever. Looking at the gameplay i see it being just a AA or lower game in my view.