Heavy Rain an interactive movie? No, thats Indigo Prophecy

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#1 Skittles_McGee
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Oh yes. I did say that. The game that came before Heavy Rain, thats the one you could call an interactive movie. "But but but the developer said!!!", you say. Well, developers say a lot of things (like how GT5 was ready to be released at any time, right?). Moving on though, let's establish some comparisons.

Indigo Prophecy:
-Consistent Storyline
-Player actions do not cause new scenes to happen
-There are three or so endings, all of them require you to go to the same place

Heavy Rain
-Storyline woven by player
-Player actions can decide whether or not a scene will happen
-There are many endings, and they can occur in multiple places

Sounds like Indigo Prophecy is more like a movie, giving the player little input into the actual outcome of the movie, but rather letting the player just play it out. Whereas Heavy Rain allows the player to decide how the story plays out, how it ends, the total outcome. That not enough? Let's look at Indigo Prophecy's "game over" screen:

Stop? Rewind? Those sound like commands you give to a... movie. Is this implying Indigo Prophecy is trying to be a movie? That can't be! But wait there's more.

In the "tutorial" for Indigo Prophecy you are on a movie set, there's even a director's chair. Wait a minute, just what are they trying to say? Its a movie? But this isn't Heavy Rain, thats impossible!

But there it is in your face. Indigo Prophecy does everything to convince you its a movie. Heavy Rain does not. What's the response to this, System Wars? Agree or Disagree?

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Disclaimer: I do not think of either of these games as interactive movies. They simply aren't. This is more to show the silliness of the "interactive movie" claims and what not. So have at it.

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#2 emorainbo
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Prince of Persia 2008 and Sonic are more interacive movies than Heavy Rain.

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#3 GreenGoblin2099
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Bu.. bu.. bu.. but t3h moviez!!!

:P

Kudos, man. Nicely done.

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#4 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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Agreed. Well said. Can't wait for the people now to come in and twist words.
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#5 johnlennon28
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people can call it whatever they want, but its one of the greatest game I played ever
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#6 ber4fun
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Both are interactive movies, heavy rain is just the better one

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#7 AdrianWerner
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They're both interactive movies, HR just does it far better offering real interactivity instead of mostly fake one like IP had

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#8 jg4xchamp
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They're both interactive movies, HR just does it far better offering real interactivity instead of mostly fake one like IP had

AdrianWerner
This, and I don't like at interactive movie or drama as necessarily a bad thing. I mean considering how hard A TON of mainstream games work to go for that "CINEMATIC", "HOLLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER!" feel you would think a game like this wouldn't get as much flak.
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#9 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

They're both interactive movies, HR just does it far better offering real interactivity instead of mostly fake one like IP had

jg4xchamp

This, and I don't like at interactive movie or drama as necessarily a bad thing. I mean considering how hard A TON of mainstream games work to go for that "CINEMATIC", "HOLLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER!" feel you would think a game like this wouldn't get as much flak.

I would say HR is simply the first interactive movie that actualy works :)

Plus it's a lot better to call it interactive movie than adventure game

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people can call it whatever they want, but its one of the greatest game I played everjohnlennon28
I agree, one of my top 10 games of all time and I've been gaming for 15 years.
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#11 marcos27pr
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Prince of Persia 2008 and Sonic are more interacive movies than Heavy Rain.

emorainbo

LMAOL Sonic? Prince of Persia? < thats a joke rigth

and abut Heavy Rain CONGRATILATION to sony for Exchanging the ( Play ) (Stop ) for X and O

its simple Heavy rain its like a movie you pres X and your character go in to a movie clip where you punch the guy DONT pres X on time and the movie gos to a Movie Clip where you get puch or kick / press all bottons in time and you get a good ending / press some rigth and not and you get a OK ending / Dont press X and O in time and they all end up dead

Stil a Movie IT DONT PLAY LIKE SONIC or Prince of Persia

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I'm playing through Fahrenheit now.

Man,Nick Cage's voice is annoying as hell in the tutorial,he sounds so lame.

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#13 -Snooze-
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Both exccellent games, both interactive movies. If that;s what the developer wanted to create, and what he's calling it, then that's what it is.

There's nothing wrong with it ebing called that either, as it's an awesome game. As soon as people realize that, the sooner we can move on.

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#15 tumle
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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

Prince of Persia 2008 and Sonic are more interacive movies than Heavy Rain.

marcos27pr

LMAOL Sonic? Prince of Persia? < thats a joke rigth

and abut Heavy Rain CONGRATILATION to sony for Exchanging the ( Play ) (Stop ) for X and O

its simple Heavy rain its like a movie you pres X and your character go in to a movie clip where you punch the guy DONT pres X on time and the movie gos to a Movie Clip where you get puch or kick / press all bottons in time and you get a good ending / press some rigth and not and you get a OK ending / Dont press X and O in time and they all end up dead

Stil a Movie IT DONT PLAY LIKE SONIC or Prince of Persia

well you didn't play the game did you professor?

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#16 MortalDecay
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Heavy Rain
-Storyline woven by player
-Player actions can decide whether or not a scene will happen
-There are many endings, and they can occur in multiple places

Skittles_McGee

Just because HR offers you more, doesn't mean it's not an interactive movie. Hell, most reviewers refused to call it a game. Look, it's not a bad thing. Be happy that it's good.

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[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

Prince of Persia 2008 and Sonic are more interacive movies than Heavy Rain.

LMAOL Sonic? Prince of Persia? < thats a joke rigth

and abut Heavy Rain CONGRATILATION to sony for Exchanging the ( Play ) (Stop ) for X and O

its simple Heavy rain its like a movie you pres X and your character go in to a movie clip where you punch the guy DONT pres X on time and the movie gos to a Movie Clip where you get puch or kick / press all bottons in time and you get a good ending / press some rigth and not and you get a OK ending / Dont press X and O in time and they all end up dead

Stil a Movie IT DONT PLAY LIKE SONIC or Prince of Persia

First of all, you cant die in Prince of Persia, there really doesnt have to be anymore said after that for that matter. But anyway, Heavy Rain lets you do what you want to in a particular setting, so it is not a movie. And when I say "Shenmue", thats when everyone should know that calling it an "interactive movie" is BS.
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#18 skinny_man_69
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Life itself is merely an interactive movie

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#19 Lab392
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They're both interactive movies. Heavy Rain is just more interactive.

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#20 Phoenix534
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They're both interactive movies. Heavy Rain is just more interactive.

Lab392

This. Quantic Dream even acknowledges that when they say "Thank you for playing this interactive drama" in the credits.

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#21 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

Prince of Persia 2008 and Sonic are more interacive movies than Heavy Rain.

marcos27pr

LMAOL Sonic? Prince of Persia? < thats a joke rigth

and abut Heavy Rain CONGRATILATION to sony for Exchanging the ( Play ) (Stop ) for X and O

its simple Heavy rain its like a movie you pres X and your character go in to a movie clip where you punch the guy DONT pres X on time and the movie gos to a Movie Clip where you get puch or kick / press all bottons in time and you get a good ending / press some rigth and not and you get a OK ending / Dont press X and O in time and they all end up dead

Stil a Movie IT DONT PLAY LIKE SONIC or Prince of Persia

If you have played those games, you would know they practically play themselves.

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people can call it whatever they want, but its one of the greatest game I played everjohnlennon28
Ya, it really is awesome. After this game gets going I didn't want to turn it off. Hell, I wouldn't have if it wasn't for my wife...
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#23 BioShockOwnz
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Just don't download 'The Taxidermist' for Heavy Rain. $5, are you serious QD and Sony? It's 8-10 minutes long.:lol:

And they're both cinematic.

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#24 StealthSting
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Meh. I don't understand why people make such a big deal over cinematic games. I could understand gamers having a problem with the industry as a whole turning to that direction, but otherwise, I think that the critique towards games such as the MGS series is unnecessary. If you don't like it, don't play it, period.

It's interactive entertainment, if you have some sort of interaction in it I don't see why it shouldn't be considered a game. This mainly goes into all of these little imaginary definitions the gaming community has of what a game should and should not be. Yes, freaking Wii music is a damn game, no matter how much gamer x hates it. This is part of what makes the industry so great in the first place, why a gamer would condemn that is beyond me.

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#25 Chutebox
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Just don't download 'The Taxidermist' for Heavy Rain. $5, are you serious QD and Sony? It's 8-10 minutes long.:lol:

And they're both cinematic.

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You didn't get it for free?
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#26 jasonharris48
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They're both interactive movies. But Heavy Rain is the better title though (nit saying IP was bad)

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#27 johnusabeis
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i dont understand what your trying to accomplish here? both game play like movies but thats what makes them both unique and awesome. why are you writing a novel trying to explain that heavy rain isnt the very thing that makes it a great game?
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#28 foxhound_fox
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Man,Nick Cage's voice is annoying as hell in the tutorial,he sounds so lame.Lto_thaG

That is because he is.

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Both games are "interactive movies" and I have very little interest in playing Heavy Rain, let alone paying money to play it.

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#29 ropumar
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They both are interactive movies. At least that is why I bought and played both.

LOVED THEM.