Heavy Rain is NOT the console graphics king

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#51 R4gn4r0k
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it's not the fault of the pc that it's got the real winner.

Arach666

True, but why can't people compare games just on consoles? Not every graphics comparison thread should have to involve or mention Crysis.

True,we can always bring STALKER games or ARMA 2 to the discussion:P



Or Dirt 2

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#52 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner

Becuase graphics king implies a system's power, consoles are static and stay the same so measuring their power has some relevance, PC's are interchangeable and upgradable, making them a moot point with power.

so it's about being fair?

If the term Console Graphics King bothers you we all can opt to say these: 1.) "If an exclusive game on the Xbox 360 looks better than any game on the PS3, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." 2.) "If an exclusive game on the PS3 looks better than any game on the Xbox 360, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." You see... it's just too wordy. Why not simplify it with a HARMLESS term? Comparisons are bound to happen anyway.
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#53 Timbury
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what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner
Agreed! If "Console Exclusive" isn't allowed on these forums then "Console Graphics King" shouldn't be either. Yet i see it getting used everyday!?
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#54 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner

cuz if I say graphics king then Crysis will come in and destroy everything...everyone should already know consoles can't compete with PC

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

for one, its boring. its always crysis. can you have a war if there is no opposition? besides its fixed hardware vs everchanging. its not like comparing games where new ones come out all the time for all systems because you can't upgrade consoles.

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#55 Timbury
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Becuase graphics king implies a system's power, consoles are static and stay the same so measuring their power has some relevance, PC's are interchangeable and upgradable, making them a moot point with power.TREAL_Since

so it's about being fair?

If the term Console Graphics King bothers you we all can opt to say these: 1.) "If an exclusive game on the Xbox 360 looks better than any game on the PS3, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." 2.) "If an exclusive game on the PS3 looks better than any game on the Xbox 360, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." You see... it's just too wordy. Why not simplify it with a HARMLESS term? Comparisons are bound to happen anyway.

Yeah but its the same with Console Exclusive you arnt allowed to say that as a certain group jumps on anyone that does. So they have to come off with a long winded answer like "Ok then its exclusive to PC/360 and can't be played on PS3" even though it would be easier to just say console exclusive.

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#56 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

so it's about being fair?

Timbury

If the term Console Graphics King bothers you we all can opt to say these: 1.) "If an exclusive game on the Xbox 360 looks better than any game on the PS3, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." 2.) "If an exclusive game on the PS3 looks better than any game on the Xbox 360, then said game is the best looking game you'll find between the two consoles." You see... it's just too wordy. Why not simplify it with a HARMLESS term? Comparisons are bound to happen anyway.

Yeah but its the same with Console Exclusive you arnt allowed to say that as a certain group jumps on anyone that does. So they have to come off with a long winded answer like "Ok then its exclusive to PC/360 and can't be played on PS3" even though it would be easier to just say console exclusive.

In SW there's a spreadsheet for exclusives and it is taken more seriously. There are specific 'rules' to follow when discussing and counting exclusive games. Graphics discussion is basically harmless and does not sway the fate of any system in SW. There are no set ground rules concerning graphics discussion.There is no spreadsheet that counts 'best graphics'. Therefore, I think people can say whatever they want when it comes to graphics. I do see your point, but I don't think exclusive games and graphics should be put into the same breath. UNLESS there is a specific 'Best Graphics Spreadsheet' compiled. Then we could go by Gamespot's 'Best Technical Graphics Award'. Just my opinion.
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#57 Bus-A-Bus
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It was never meant to be... :) Not to knock anything about the game but they pretty much had alot of spes to help process graphics calculations from rsx and not much physics and a.i so it looks great but it doesent even top KZ2.

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#58 XenogearsMaster
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner

Becuase graphics king implies a system's power, consoles are static and stay the same so measuring their power has some relevance, PC's are interchangeable and upgradable, making them a moot point with power.

so it's about being fair?

I don't know why it's hard for you to understand. If the PS3 is capable of running at Crysis level then, it would be an proper comparison to the PC.
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#59 Ontain
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Becuase graphics king implies a system's power, consoles are static and stay the same so measuring their power has some relevance, PC's are interchangeable and upgradable, making them a moot point with power.XenogearsMaster

so it's about being fair?

I don't know why it's hard for you to understand. If the PS3 is capable of running at Crysis level then, it would be an proper comparison to the PC.

so why do the ps3 fans feel compelled to bring it up if they can't compare to PC? until there something that can take it away from Crysis it's pointless to keep making these Graphics King threads.
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#60 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

so it's about being fair?

Ontain

I don't know why it's hard for you to understand. If the PS3 is capable of running at Crysis level then, it would be an proper comparison to the PC.

so why do the ps3 fans feel compelled to bring it up if they can't compare to PC? until there something that can take it away from Crysis it's pointless to keep making these Graphics King threads.

Because there's a mini war between the PS3 and 360. SW basically revolves around these two consoles :/. At least that's what most discussions are about.

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#61 Assassin_87
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Console graphics king =/= real category that belongs in System Wars.

However it does work as a term to make the SW world go 'round, it seems, since Crysis crushes everything and from a visuals standpoint has effectively ended System Wars in the "WHICH GAME IS GRAPHICS KING" respect. :P

With that being said, back to the topic. Heavy Rain is not the console graphics king, for sure. What is? I'd say Uncharted 2. But let me throw out an odd personal choice to add to that: Lost Odyssey. Beautiful game through and through, IMO.

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#62 Laxer04
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i completely agree. i thought the graphics were average at best. uncharted 2 blows this game away graphically

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#63 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

but why still do it?

CaseyWegner

because 360/PS3 owners like tocompare graphics all the time...two pretty evenly matched consoles power wise so what's wrong with it...just like GS likes to mention console exclusive.....console graphics king and console exclusives both exist

gamespot =/= system wars

the terms exist...but should they in a forum where the pc counts as much as any console? by saying console exclusive or console graphics king you are selectively removing only one system.

actually, they're removing 2. since the Wii can't compete graphically either. they just wanna compare graphics on systems with set hardware. the PC is easily upgradable so graphic power is limitless. THAT'S why console graphics are compared.

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#64 13C
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Judging a game based on graphics = fail.

I guess halo 3 sucks. Have you seen those 3 year old graphics

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#65 chikenfriedrice
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Judging a game based on graphics = fail.

I guess halo 3 sucks. Have you seen those 3 year old graphics

13C

never said the game sucks....I loved the demo but I remember seeing many threads hyping HR for it's graphics and after playing it they are not what they once seemed w/ bullshots

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I'm pretty sure most already knew this already (except a small group of foolish cows), although it seems it's safe to say they'll be.........console character models king :P 'cause they long great in motion.
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#67 thedude-
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Yes it cannot be even compared to games that are in much more of a real time rendering. This is a guided experience.

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#68 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="13C"]

Judging a game based on graphics = fail.

I guess halo 3 sucks. Have you seen those 3 year old graphics

Would not reading the OP = a bigger fail? If so, bravo on your part.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

cuz if I say graphics king then Crysis will come in and destroy everything...everyone should already know consoles can't compete with PC

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.
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#70 anshul89
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

cuz if I say graphics king then Crysis will come in and destroy everything...everyone should already know consoles can't compete with PC

lowe0

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.

But this is system wars and not console wars.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

cuz if I say graphics king then Crysis will come in and destroy everything...everyone should already know consoles can't compete with PC

lowe0

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.

ahhhh i love my corvette :D

really though, its a demo and the xbox gamer tag but lack of ps3 gamertag doesn't help your credibility. all the scenes ive seen look awesome but i haven't played the demo and i question if the demo is indicative of the final game as often demos are compressed to make them easier and quicker to dl (ala GT time trial)

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#72 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

z4twenny

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.

ahhhh i love my corvette :D

really though, its a demo and the xbox gamer tag but lack of ps3 gamertag doesn't help your credibility. all the scenes ive seen look awesome but i haven't played the demo and i question if the demo is indicative of the final game as often demos are compressed to make them easier and quicker to dl (ala GT time trial)

my PSN ID is in my sig...I'm legit

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#73 SakusEnvoy
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Thankfully, when Crysis 2 comes out, everyone from hermits, to lemmings to cows will agree that it is graphics king. And then there shall be peace.

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#74 iKINGBOBi
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what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner

So whats the point of ever talking about advancements in console graphics, should we just talk about Crysis all day:? Not only is the game visual quality subjective, but the majority of the people here don't even have a PC to run it on max settings

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#75 RTUUMM
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I dont care about Heavy Rain, I never considere it graphix kings. I like the first trialer of Heavy Rain with the girl in the kitchen with a gun, remember that? That trailer was amazing, but the game itself doesnt impress me much or its graphics.
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#76 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

anshul89

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.

But this is system wars and not console wars.

Thats why its called CONSOLE graphics king, and not graphics king. Its basically saying Crysis is the best looking game. Which is subjective imo

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#77 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

CaseyWegner

cuz if I say graphics king then Crysis will come in and destroy everything...everyone should already know consoles can't compete with PC

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

You're opening pandora's box.

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#78 lowe0
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

but why still do it? how is it any different from console exclusive?

Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.

But this is system wars and not console wars.

There's a difference between every system being a valid topic for discussion and mandating that we MUST discuss every platform. If people aren't really interested in discussing the PC in a particular thread, then why force them to?
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#79 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Same reason people compare Mustangs and Camaros when a Corvette will outrun both.lowe0

But this is system wars and not console wars.

There's a difference between every system being a valid topic for discussion and mandating that we MUST discuss every platform. If people aren't really interested in discussing the PC in a particular thread, then why force them to?

They aren't interested in discussing the PC because it kills their argument.

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#80 anshul89
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's the point of "console" graphics king? this isn't console wars.

iKINGBOBi

So whats the point of ever talking about advancements in console graphics, should we just talk about Crysis all day:? Not only is the game visual quality subjective, but the majority of the people here don't even have a PC to run it on max settings

There are many other pc games you can discuss. STALKER, World in Conflict, Company of Heroes, Oblivion (with mods), Fallout 3, Empire Total War, Far Cry 2, Resident Evil 5, GTA IV, DiRT 2, Batman Arkham Asylum etc.

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#81 ultraking
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while i do think heavy rain will be the best, most original ,and awesomegame of 2010, i dont think it beats out uncharted2 in terms of graphics

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#82 Panosola
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I hope PS3 fans do not hype it as such anymore.....after playing the demo ( which I loved! ) the faces and the facial animations are the only thing worth mentioning....FNR4 has better character models than this game.

chikenfriedrice

And now you and all here agree with me.I have say many times here that the graphics are not very good and not better than U2.....but now you agree....:roll:

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#83 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="anshul89"]But this is system wars and not console wars.

anshul89

There's a difference between every system being a valid topic for discussion and mandating that we MUST discuss every platform. If people aren't really interested in discussing the PC in a particular thread, then why force them to?

They aren't interested in discussing the PC because it kills their argument.

Why is everything about sustaining an argument? Isn't it possible that people argue the positions they do because they actually believe in them?
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#84 yanbuco2712
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I hope PS3 fans do not hype it as such anymore.....after playing the demo ( which I loved! ) the faces and the facial animations are the only thing worth mentioning....FNR4 has better character models than this game.

Panosola

And now you and all here agree with me.I have say many times here that the graphics are not very good and not better than U2.....but now you agree....:roll:

Nope you just bashed HR based on it being a '9 hour movie' and never mentioned its graphics:|

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#85 navyguy21
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People hyped it because its PS3 exclusive lol. I played the demo like 4 times last night, and there has been an obvious downgrade from what we were first shown. That said, the game is amazing! Its way more interactive and cinematic than Indigo Prophecy was, and the fight scene was just awesome. Im glad i preordered it, too bad no midnight release for it :(