Heavy Rain Vs. The Mario Galaxy games

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#51 DazedDarkness
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I can't play Mario games because they are too unrealistic for me.LOXO7
Lol, dude no video game is realistic, and will never be. That's the point of them being GAMES. I predict that when games try and get too real they'll be a revolution and demand for more fantasy titles. Reality is boring when you have a plain life, keep it out of my video games.
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#52 lloveLamp
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i like games with good gameplay like geometry wars and street fighter. and i like games with interesting new ideas for storytelling, like heavy rain and la noire. i dont like games that try to do both and fail at both like mass effect and a few others
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#53 Half-Way
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il go with gameplay. There are some games that mange to tell a story with environmental detail and interaction. Which are the ones i prefer.

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#54 Pikminmaniac
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Everytime I come here, someone is comparing games that are in no way alike. "Bro is Tekken better that Call Of Duty?"

I won't pick because that's a silly Vs.

DazedDarkness

you didn't read the OP. This isn't about those games specifically. It's about cinematic games that focus on spectcle and story over gameplay vs games that focus on gameplay over story and spectacle. What do you prefer

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#55 Scoob64
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I can't play Mario games because they are too unrealistic for me.LOXO7

that rules out most video games... even my favorite - StarCraft 2 - there are no such thing as protoss and zerg... ;) ... that i know of. and buildings take more than just 20 seconds to construct

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#56 Riverwolf007
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i think the wierd themes and hidden psycological stuff is just too weird.....

in the mario galaxy games.

seriously whats up with all that u r mrgay and the backwards one in smg2 that says ya i m r u?

and the freaky beyond hell valley stuff?

it's just too weird for me to even want to deal with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98728-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Box-Art-Responds-to-Originals-Hidden-Message

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126769

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#57 haziqonfire
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Generally speaking I like gameplay mechanics the most. Theres a reason why Super Mario Galaxy 2 is one of my favourite (if not my favourite) game ever. I 100%'d that game and I came away completely overwhelmed by how great it was.

However, then theres the other side. I just finished Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (not 100%, mind you) and I'm really overwhelmed by how amazing that game was too. Part of the reason why I love the AC series too is the story, I think it's fantastic.

Another example though is Mass Effect. While I don't particularly like the games structure or core mechanics, I keep playing them because I like the world that was created, so I'm willing to forgo my gripes with those games to learn more about the universe lol.

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#58 ActicEdge
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Generally speaking I like gameplay mechanics the most. Theres a reason why Super Mario Galaxy 2 is one of my favourite (if not my favourite) game ever. I 100%'d that game and I came away completely overwhelmed by how great it was.

However, then theres the other side. I just finished Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (not 100%, mind you) and I'm really overwhelmed by how amazing that game was too. Part of the reason why I love the AC series too is the story, I think it's fantastic.

Another example though is Mass Effect. While I don't particularly like the games structure or core mechanics, I keep playing them because I like the world that was created, so I'm willing to forgo my gripes with those games to learn more about the universe lol.

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#59 bobcheeseball
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It depends on the type of game. I would like to see a story driven Zelda for example, but for a game like Donkey Kong I'd take mindless gameplay anyday
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#60 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Both matter a lot to me. I'd say 55% story and storytelling and production values, and 45% gameplay. Games like God of War and Arkham Asylum, in short. Or Mass Effect.
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#61 kidcool189
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i think the wierd themes and hidden psycological stuff is just too weird.....

in the mario galaxy games.

seriously whats up with all that u r mrgay and the backwards one in smg2 that says ya i m r u?

and the freaky beyond hell valley stuff?

it's just too weird for me to even want to deal with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98728-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Box-Art-Responds-to-Originals-Hidden-Message

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126769

Riverwolf007
Someone needs to highlight the box art message cause im not seein it(im bad at seeing these things tho) Those little couple alien blobs are pretty crazy tho. :P
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#62 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i think the wierd themes and hidden psycological stuff is just too weird.....

in the mario galaxy games.

seriously whats up with all that u r mrgay and the backwards one in smg2 that says ya i m r u?

and the freaky beyond hell valley stuff?

it's just too weird for me to even want to deal with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98728-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Box-Art-Responds-to-Originals-Hidden-Message

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126769

kidcool189

Someone needs to highlight the box art message cause im not seein it(im bad at seeing these things tho) Those little couple alien blobs are pretty crazy tho. :P

it's the letters that have the stars on them.

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#63 osan0
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i absolutely despise heavy rain and games like it. imho its a lesson in exactly not to make a game frankly. so give the the mario galaxy series any day. hell id rather play everquest (and i hate everquest). batman AA type games are grand though. any cutscenes are pretty short and it does a great job of making the player feel like batman. nothing wrong with a bit of a slowdown in pace while theres a quick chat. i like endless games like endless ocean also...a nice and relaxing game. not all games have to be go go go all the time. i dont like the MGS series though due to its overly long cutscenes which are mostly nonsense anyway. underneath all that useless crap there is actually a good game there. if they just stripped out all the movie like nonsense and found interesting ways to tell the stories through the games then it would be far better imho. but heavy rain and games like it......i cant think of one redeeming quality and i can think of good things to say about two worlds. i really really hate games that try to be like movies.
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#64 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i think the wierd themes and hidden psycological stuff is just too weird.....

in the mario galaxy games.

seriously whats up with all that u r mrgay and the backwards one in smg2 that says ya i m r u?

and the freaky beyond hell valley stuff?

it's just too weird for me to even want to deal with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98728-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Box-Art-Responds-to-Originals-Hidden-Message

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=126769

Riverwolf007

Someone needs to highlight the box art message cause im not seein it(im bad at seeing these things tho) Those little couple alien blobs are pretty crazy tho. :P

it's the letters that have the stars on them.

Ya, i see it now. Thought it was some kind of connect the dot illusion at first. Not sure what to think of it though...kind of wack, especially smg2's "message".
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#65 haziqonfire
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Wait, you're a mod now????? Oh snap :P

Better watch what I say haha

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#66 bbkkristian
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I'm a storyline gamer, but I'll take Mario Galaxy.
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#67 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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That's what I love about the Mass Effect games. They are a perfect marriage of cinematic story and gameplay, where the player is at every step of the way, involved in the story. Unlike other games where the cinematics break away from the gameplay and the player only passively observes, in ME the cinematics ARE another element of the gameplay. There is no one or the other but rather a merger of both.

So with that in mind Heavy Rain would be my choice over SMG.

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#68 3rdbass
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I'll take UC2 and ME2 any day over a boring platformer which is what I find MG. I got plenty of enjoyable gameplay out of those 2 games. HR is alright but I hope it is just a niche genre and doesn't take over gameplay all together.

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#69 SakusEnvoy
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I usually want there to be some sort of compelling narrative, story or framework for what I'm doing in a game. Cinematic games do a much better job of keeping my attention throughout a single player campaign. Otherwise my main motivation to press forward is lost.

As far as linear vs. non-linear, a game being non-linear isn't necessarily an excuse for not having a good story -- see games like Red Dead Redemption. That said, some games like Mario don't need compelling stories. It's simply not a part of what the series is, what it stands for or what it's trying to accomplish.

I'm glad most game series do try to create a good story. The production values, the quality of voice acting, and the artistic assets have improved in quality each generation. I think we're slowly moving away from the days of "lolz video game stories".

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#70 Another-World
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I like a bit of both, but if there has to be an imbalance, then I prefer it err on the side of better gameplay than story.

You can still have fun with a game with good gameplay and no/weak story, but if a game is like FF13 which is mostly cutscenes interspersed with some gameplay, then you(at least me) are going to get bored.

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#71 DJ-Lafleur
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I'm all for stories in videogames, there have been some enjoyable game stories IMO, but gameplay I find to be more important. it's the gameplay that will keep me coming back to a game.