Hell has frozen over: Sony and Microsoft working together on cloud streaming.

There was a 2019 GDC I forgot which title but they basically had to use Sony's cameras because it's one of the most advanced for motion capture.

At least i don't have a problem seeing that i am a fanboy,you on the other hand are beyond help.

You see what you want to see.

There is no meltdown and sony using azure means nothing other than sony saving money.

But now if you claim PSS networks sucks yeah that means azure sucks.

Damn it seems i got all the big cows on the line, even the alts like son of quacknight lol.

There"s some serious mad cow disease going on in this thread.

Now for me to be serious for a sec, both MS & Sony can get fucked with their streaming shit.

Damn it seems i got all the big cows on the line, even the alts like son of quacknight lol.

There"s some serious mad cow disease going on in this thread.

Now for me to be serious for a sec, both MS & Sony can get fucked with their streaming shit.

This is win win for everyone

This is certainly going to make for a very interesting E3 this year.

@Ant_17: Common enemies... Google and Tencent (China). https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/02/tencent-start-cloud-gaming-platform-test.html

So Sony might be at E3, on the Bone stage.

Not correct. MS has Surface product lines and as long Intel prioritize the CPU within $499 price target. Game consoles are GPU bias within a certain price target.

Sony going to MS for help is really stressing out the Sony fannies big time. The meltdown is worth the watch.

I see it more as a hedge (probably not the right term, but you know what I mean). No one's sure yet how gamers are going to react to streaming, so why should the console industry, as a whole, double up on infrastructure if it's only going to bomb. You can't really blame them for wanting to explore live services/streaming if there's a demand there. I just can't see either company leaving all the money on the table only to waste resources trying to force streaming on an unreceptive market. PC gaming would boom if that was the only place traditional game installs could exist, and you'd soon see new players coming in to fill the vacuum Xbox and PS had left.

It's at most going to be a secondary service for at least the foreseeable future. Kind of like mobile gaming - an option for some sorts of customer in some circumstances. I mean, I've not heard many people go "Wow! Just tried streaming and it's amazing! Can't wait!" Instead what you generally hear is "It wasn't horrible for some types of game, but it's not the way I'll ever be doing most of my gaming." Too many customers don't care about streaming and only want traditional games for this to be a major threat. That's my take on it anyway.

*Just realised you weren't specifically talking about streaming. Silly me. I suppose the same kind of argument applies to other services, but to a lesser extent. I don't know, I have less of a problem with MMO-type-stuff and what have you, but I'm not sure that's what you mean. At any rate, PC is nice and open, so I always figure competition can elbow out the crappiest practices most easily there.

** Not that anyone's going to read this far, but it bugs me that your scenario isn't impossible. Now if we had an ironclad guarantee of net neutrality, none of this would be a worry, since open competition with streaming and services (i.e. downloadable software from competitors) depends on equality of data, which would be a given if the net neutrality repeal was repealed, if you see what I mean :P

Microsoft's AI alternative with certified support for Sony's cameras is another business opportunity.

The only people fighting are the peasants....

The only people fighting here are those that don't understand how the industry works.

Dont give two flying fucks what you say or think Tormentos.

I don't hate Sony, just Cows. They are the worse fanboys by a country mile.

@xhawk27 said:

Tomaoto having a meltdown I see. But, bu PSN is better than XBL.

TCHBO!

It is quite funny. He is defending PSN and Sony is like WTF would we keep expanding on this shit when we can just move to Azure have a better service and save $$$$. Good move on their part and the Cows can't stand it ROFLMAO!

I... I have to admit I still don't know what any of this means. It's like an uneasy alliance ala Game of Thrones to combat a larger force. Stadia feels like the Night King and the army of the dead creeping in the distance.

@BenjaminBanklin: MS gathering devs, Nintendo and Sony for a red wedding....

I am not suprisingly surprised.

Makes sense. Outside of SW, these companies all deal "behind the scenes" as seen from our point of view. Look to TV's as an example... Sony buys panels from differing manufacturers over the years, and utilizes them in their own units. It cuts down costs across the board.

@Ant_17: Maybe. It seems like anything is possible these days.

Huh, Sony will use Azure solution instead of their own or source to IBM or Oracle or other contractors. Really surprised by this

LMAO Save money?

Sony doesn't have the necessary capital or tech to compete in the growing cloud/streaming market. They would be left behind by the big guns of Amazon, Google and MSFT. Sony isn't in these corporations league in terms of cloud assets or money to build it up fast enough.

I cant believe you took me that seriously about PSN. Its SW, bro.

@cainetao11: It’s not about PSN though

@cainetao11: Rule number one of SW, Tormentos takes everything seriously and has no gag reflex. Such is the way of the fanboy.

PSNow has awful servers, so it's probably smart on their part to get some better netcode.

For streaming, data centre location is everything. Suppose streaming only makes up a tiny fraction of Sony's revenue, is it really worth investing globally to get data centres in every city? As for why Azure in particular, MS is invested in streaming solutions tailored to gaming. Perhaps it's something to do with that.

@BenjaminBanklin: it means sony will use Microsoft servers to stream their games, nothing more.

The clowns that are making a fuss out of this don't understand how the industry works.

It's sad, actually.

@cainetao11: they're saving money... Using azure infrastructure is way cheaper and has a better CxB than creating a steaming service by themselves. Azure exists to this end, Sony won't be the only company using azure servers for their business purposes.

@tormentos: King lemming!! Thanks bro!

What it means is Sony are paying Microsoft to use their technology for cloud streaming,

Meaning when Sony start cloud streaming ps games to every device it will be a shit load better than ps now

In fanboy speak Sony are ms bitches and ps has no games

In grown up adult talk, it’s good for gamers they are gonna work on future projects together to improve gaming

This confirms Sony's exclusives will be on every device via streaming in the near future through PSNow. Also, it's kinda pathetic of Sony to come running to Microsoft to protect them from the big bad Stadia man. Microsoft will probably use Sony's money to buy Insomniac and From Software.

Playstation will be dead in a decade, zero future planning or proofing, zero vision, stuck in the past, a poverty company compared to Microsoft. lol

Sony: "HELP US MICROSOFT HELP US!!!!"

Microsoft: "I'll help youse but you're a bunch of idiots"

I'm wondering the same thing. Certain cows kept saying infrastructure, scaling and throughput is not a problem for Sony.

Sony never had an extensive infrastructure because they always leased it. It really doesn't matter who it is as long as they meet the requirements they need. They already partner with AWS and RackSpace so it's not a far reach that this may be in addition to rather than immediately replacing. The press release specifically states "future" so it seems related to new cloud instances which makes sense if the underlying architecture of both systems is the same. Sony and Microsoft gain much more high availability for a lower cost by building the cloud infrastructure together. It lowers prices for both companies. Honestly, I didn't think MS would allow this but this and the move with Nintendo and as well as Xbox Anywhere seems to indicate they aren't looking to compete in the console space in the same ways and looks like a focus on Modern MS as a services company with "some" in-house hardware to keep market prices in line with what they want.

I think all this means is that Sony is now a client of Microsoft for their cloud technology. Sony will need this because it will cost a lot of money for them to go it alone.

It really makes no difference to both companies. Gears, Forza, Halo will remain exclusive to MS and all the Sony exclusives will remain exclusive.

It will be similar to the fact that Apple buys screens from Samsung.

Does this mean we get to just talk about games? Or does Nintendo have to beat PS in WW sales first?

Sony couldn't afford MS. Sony is like a cheap 2$ whore.

LOL. This forums doesn't care about games. All that matters is that you favorite company wins. Why it matters to a gamer? I will never know.

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!!!

Well my avatar turned out to be an extremely bold prediction.

Who are the new alts? Just more garbage spewing.

:P

They surely can. MS will be providing the infrastructure not running the PS Now operations/development for Sony.

Well, tbh, Sony was always MS's client. Do you think Sony's PCs use what? Windows of course.

@calvincfb: Different departments

Hahahahahaahahaha hahahahahahaahahaha HEY KETTLE....POT if calling you black again.

You see what other delusional super fanboys see...everything negative with the competitor. You've proven that time and time again el tormented so again hahahahaah hahahahahahaha at your statement hahahaah Clown of SWs confirmed

Nintendo beating PS in WW sales, Epic destroying Steam, MS buying Nintendo, MS buying Sony. Then we can talk about games.