Here's why I would like the ps3 to fail

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

- The next gen consoles are said to be cheaper, Dont buy one until it drops in price, Its not Sonys fault that you cant afford it (You can buy it but obviously you cant afford it.)

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

You obviously in the minority, The Ps3 will pick up alot of sales when it gets games and becomes cheaper, I expect Sony to pull the big guns out and turn their Pr into a +, Crazy Kens gone and their trying to do a overhall of staff and things only can get better.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

If you dont consider the 360 then the Ps3 has plenty of games which dosent count on system wars but still you dont think 3+ million are playing just Motorstorm and Rfom, Imo the Wii is just Pathetic, Wario Ware is Pathetic and the only games id buy for it is Zelda, Spm, Re4- If i didnt already own the Gc game and maybe T. Centre, So basicaly the Wii has ports and Mini games.

Nin360

I own all three nex gen systems btw and both handhelds.

Summarize: I want sony to fail cause I´m a fanboy.

The price will go down, and it´s not like their even making money of the consoles they loose 200 bucks with each PS3, their arrogance is the same arrogance that MS has and that Nintendo has, and lately sony has been the most humble they know they made mistakes, games? How about being rational, the system has been out for 7 months in europe it´s been out for like half that time, ofc it isn´t full of games. You want it to fail for one reason, either your simply a fanboy of another console that can´t stand to see someone else win, or your jealous that you can´t afford one. Nobody with half a brain would want sony to fail.

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

Nin360

So basicaly your saying that a millionare will take a Ps3 price into consideration before he or she buys it?, Nuff Said.

[QUOTE="Nin360"]

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

No_worrys_mate

So basicaly your saying that a millionare will take a Ps3 price into consideration before he or she buys it?, Nuff Said.

No, they will take into considertaion that after 8 months that anti christ of a console still has no damn games. :shock:

Uh oh, someone said "big guns."

I love Sony and hte PS3 but I have little faith in any of the upcoming games until maybe like Novemeber.

How could you want someone to fail. So basically you're saying you want all these people to lose jobs because of your opinion, You my friend are a very messed up person.Aljosa23

Read, it says "PS3".

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Nin360

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]How could you want someone to fail. So basically you're saying you want all these people to lose jobs because of your opinion, You my friend are a very messed up person.Eponique

Read, it says "PS3".

People's jobs are involved in the success of the PS3. Not that that's really our problem.

Anyhow, having a microsoft dominated hardcore console market is not a good thing. Microsoft is not a nice company. I'd love to see them in 20 years with a monopoly on the market just to see the faces of xbox fanboys when they realize that they have to insert quarters just to turn the thing on.

1. I wonder if you pay for xbox live and I wonder what else you bought for your 360. For me , I am looking at $480 + online fees. Might as well pay more up front and I get a bonus blu-ray player and wifi included.

2. Lame reason.

3. The games will come. This we can be sure of.

[QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

raynimrod

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

Magical_Zebra

So basicaly your saying that a millionare will take a Ps3 price into consideration before he or she buys it?, Nuff Said.

No, they will take into considertaion that after 8 months that anti christ of a console still has no damn games. :shock:

Do i have to repeat whati said before, The Ps3 has plenty of games if you dont consider the 360 which alot of people wont and thats why i seethe 360 fighting to increase its console salesnow and in the future, But hopefuly with all these games that are coming out for it people will turn to it because i know its my best console atm, The Ps3 has at least 5 games that are worth while buyng if you just wanted one console and you were willing to pay that high price which isnt much considering i have to pay $850us for my Ps3 here in Australia.

Games worth buying for Ps3.

Rfom, Motorstorm, Oblivion, Fnr3, Mbl 07, Nhl and Nba 2k7, Vt3, Tiger Woods 07,Mua, Cod3, Vf5, Tekken Dr, Calling all cars, Def Jam, Nfs Carbon,Sc Da, Ridge racer 7, Nba street, Madden 07 and a whole lot more and dont forget you can play all the Ps2 games which makes the Wiilook Pathetic.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Eponique

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

1) yes the price is expensive but if you look at it as more of a media hub its well worth it. (assuming blu ray wins)

2) so you want a console to fail because the company annoys you :|

3) you cant expect all the games you like to come out straight away. heck im sure theres someone out there who already is satisfied wth their PS3.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

No_worrys_mate

So basicaly your saying that a millionare will take a Ps3 price into consideration before he or she buys it?, Nuff Said.

No, they will take into considertaion that after 8 months that anti christ of a console still has no damn games. :shock:

Do i have to repeat whati said before, The Ps3 has plenty of games if you dont consider the 360 which alot of people wont and thats why i seethe 360 fighting to increase its console salesnow and in the future, But hopefuly with all these games that are coming out for it people will turn to it because i know its my best console atm, The Ps3 has at least 5 games that are worth while buyng if you just wanted one console and you were willing to pay that high price which isnt much considering i have to pay $850us for my Ps3 here in Australia.

Games worth buying for Ps3.

Rfom, Motorstorm, Oblivion, Fnr3, Mbl 07, Nhl and Nba 2k7, Vt3, Tiger Woods 07,Mua, Cod3, Vf5, Tekken Dr, Calling all cars, Def Jam, Nfs Carbon,Sc Da, Ridge racer 7, Nba street, Madden 07 and a whole lot more and dont forget you can play all the Ps2 games which makes the Wiilook Pathetic.

You want us to believe you own all 3 consoles?! And half the games you mentioned were sports/racers/shooters... I'd bring up my list but you'll call it crap and it'd be the 584th I've done it.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

raynimrod

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

You might not care, but how are you so sure the other 160 million gamers aren't? If PS3 wins, then Nintendo and M$ would guess people are willing to pay $600, we don't wanna see that happening now do we?

[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Eponique

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

All three consoles next gen are said to be cheaper as i said before, Br will be mainstream soonand will be the last disc format for consoles before digital distrabution and the costs have come down alot for Br drivesfrom the $200 it was costing Sony then down to $120 and now down to 80c with the removal of the Ps2 chip which Btw emulation works with 100% games that dont have funny japanese names or scored less than 3 on Gs as well as just lowering the price of everything else which will mean a price drop or help Sony stop bleeding and bring some great games and then sell alot of consoles and drop it a bit later, But with the same Optical drive we will be seeing all consoles around the $200-$400 mark.

I have an idea, a porche is expensive. Do you see Corrola owners complaining? No, because it's not for them. Just like you're not their target market, ZOMG! Amazing. wemhim

car analogies are horribly flawed because they don't take into account the games or the developers that use limited resources to create them. you don't see porche owners worried about the sales of corrolas. but ps3 owners and you can bet sony are worried about losing badly to the wii.

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

Nin360

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

No_worrys_mate

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

All three consoles next gen are said to be cheaper as i said before, Br will be mainstream soonand will be the last disc format for consoles before digital distrabution and the costs have come down alot for Br drivesfrom the $200 it was costing Sony then down to $120 and now down to 80c with the removal of the Ps2 chip which Btw emulation works with 100% games that dont have funny japanese names or scored less than 3 on Gs as well as just lowering the price of everything else which will mean a price drop or help Sony stop bleeding and bring some great games and then sell alot of consoles and drop it a bit later, But with the same Optical drive we will be seeing all consoles around the $200-$400 mark.

They don't care. They want money. If PS3 wins with a $600 price tag, what's stopping the next gen console from winning with a $600 price tag?

[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

See thats what is the matter with most of you fanboys. You have the logic "if you dont' buy it you can't afford it" thats bs. I probably could buy you off if I wanted too. I dont want to spend that money on a console that offers me little or even less then my 360 does.

BTW the sales figures are heavily in my favor. Thank you.

Eponique

So basicaly your saying that a millionare will take a Ps3 price into consideration before he or she buys it?, Nuff Said.

No, they will take into considertaion that after 8 months that anti christ of a console still has no damn games. :shock:

Do i have to repeat whati said before, The Ps3 has plenty of games if you dont consider the 360 which alot of people wont and thats why i seethe 360 fighting to increase its console salesnow and in the future, But hopefuly with all these games that are coming out for it people will turn to it because i know its my best console atm, The Ps3 has at least 5 games that are worth while buyng if you just wanted one console and you were willing to pay that high price which isnt much considering i have to pay $850us for my Ps3 here in Australia.

Games worth buying for Ps3.

Rfom, Motorstorm, Oblivion, Fnr3, Mbl 07, Nhl and Nba 2k7, Vt3, Tiger Woods 07,Mua, Cod3, Vf5, Tekken Dr, Calling all cars, Def Jam, Nfs Carbon,Sc Da, Ridge racer 7, Nba street, Madden 07 and a whole lot more and dont forget you can play all the Ps2 games which makes the Wiilook Pathetic.

You want us to believe you own all 3 consoles?! And half the games you mentioned were sports/racers/shooters... I'd bring up my list but you'll call it crap and it'd be the 584th I've done it.

I own all three consoles what can i say as well as both handhelds, My setup with games cost me about $8000aud which 84c to1usd, I not bashing but to me if i was going to buy a Ps3or a Wii if the 360 wasnt an option it would be a Ps3, The only games that intereset me for the Wii is Zelda and thats it, Ive got Zelda, Wii Sports and Play, I got Mario strikers but i retured it for Forza 2 because i didnt think it was woth the $60usd i payed for it, I want Spm and Tc but you know what that not even been released for Pal regions and as for Wario its a high a nothing more and id rather not play mini games with other people so the 2 hr campain rules it out for me, I own 1 Ps3 game btw and 22 360 games, So basicaly i will bash the Wii because of this but with the Ps3 id personaly be happy with Oblvion, Rfom, Cod3, Vf5, Nfs Carbon and Sc Da and maybe a sports game rather than Zelda and two games i want but actually cant get and btw itwill cost me $60 for Mario Strikers which is a lowered price Wii game or $84usd for a normal Wii game or i can get a Ps3 and get any game because its region free for $50usd, What would you rather do if their wasnt a 360 and wanted a next gen console in my suituation, The $30 cheaper games would probalyoffset the diffrence because i buy alot of games.

[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Eponique

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

All three consoles next gen are said to be cheaper as i said before, Br will be mainstream soonand will be the last disc format for consoles before digital distrabution and the costs have come down alot for Br drivesfrom the $200 it was costing Sony then down to $120 and now down to 80c with the removal of the Ps2 chip which Btw emulation works with 100% games that dont have funny japanese names or scored less than 3 on Gs as well as just lowering the price of everything else which will mean a price drop or help Sony stop bleeding and bring some great games and then sell alot of consoles and drop it a bit later, But with the same Optical drive we will be seeing all consoles around the $200-$400 mark.

They don't care. They want money. If PS3 wins with a $600 price tag, what's stopping the next gen console from winning with a $600 price tag?

Its called compertion, Btw Sony is loosing money on each Ps3 so i wouldnt be calling them money hungry theifs just yet.

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.Nin360

"It's probably to cheap"

Ken Kurtaragi, regarding the $499 to $599 price point.

"...for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

Ken Kutaragi, explaining their market goals for the PS3

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.Nin360

"I dont think we're arrogant"

Phil Harrison, regarding consumer perception of the PS3.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.Nin360

"The Playstation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."

-Phil Harrison, President of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with Gamespot.

"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even if it didnt have games."

-David Reeves, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe CEO

"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on our shelves more than five minutes, I'll give you $1200 bucks for it."

-Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America President and CEO

"I dont think the battle would be any different with or without Grand Theft Auto... I dont think it (losing Grand Theft Auto would) hurt us. no, I really dont.

-Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America President and CEO

Wow... :shock:

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

No_worrys_mate

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

All three consoles next gen are said to be cheaper as i said before, Br will be mainstream soonand will be the last disc format for consoles before digital distrabution and the costs have come down alot for Br drivesfrom the $200 it was costing Sony then down to $120 and now down to 80c with the removal of the Ps2 chip which Btw emulation works with 100% games that dont have funny japanese names or scored less than 3 on Gs as well as just lowering the price of everything else which will mean a price drop or help Sony stop bleeding and bring some great games and then sell alot of consoles and drop it a bit later, But with the same Optical drive we will be seeing all consoles around the $200-$400 mark.

They don't care. They want money. If PS3 wins with a $600 price tag, what's stopping the next gen console from winning with a $600 price tag?

Its called compertion, Btw Sony is loosing money on each Ps3 so i wouldnt be calling them money hungry theifs just yet.

They'll always be money-hungry... Every company is. They can still milk you, and their planis tofor the "10-year life span of the PS3" is to make a lot of money. Not so somebody can have something to do this evening.

[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="Nin360"]

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Eponique

Are you telling me you want $600 price tags? If PS3 wins, then Sony wouldn't hesitate making their next console $600 as well, considering it will win regardless.

All three consoles next gen are said to be cheaper as i said before, Br will be mainstream soonand will be the last disc format for consoles before digital distrabution and the costs have come down alot for Br drivesfrom the $200 it was costing Sony then down to $120 and now down to 80c with the removal of the Ps2 chip which Btw emulation works with 100% games that dont have funny japanese names or scored less than 3 on Gs as well as just lowering the price of everything else which will mean a price drop or help Sony stop bleeding and bring some great games and then sell alot of consoles and drop it a bit later, But with the same Optical drive we will be seeing all consoles around the $200-$400 mark.

They don't care. They want money. If PS3 wins with a $600 price tag, what's stopping the next gen console from winning with a $600 price tag?

Its called compertion, Btw Sony is loosing money on each Ps3 so i wouldnt be calling them money hungry theifs just yet.

They'll always be money-hungry... Every company is. They can still milk you, and their planis tofor the "10-year life span of the PS3" is to make a lot of money. Not so somebody can have something to do this evening.

Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.

1. Price. Just insane. I have the money but dont want to spend $600 for any console. Hell my pc cost me less and does everything I want it to do. I was reluctant to pay $400 for my 360 but $600 is way too damn much. I don't want the stinkin blu-ray player and I still have plenty of room on my small 360 hardrive. I don't want to see this trend continue in the console buisness so here's #1 reason.

2. Arrogance: From their top Executives like Crazy Ken all the way down to their snobby fanboys. I hate everything about the playstation brand. Sony is often caught lying and using bs tatics to promote thier trashy products. How many Project Gothem screens did they use to promote thier games? How many emty promises have they deliverd on the ps3? I hope consumers start judging products on the merit of the company.

3. Games: What a lackluster library. Since launch it has maybe 2 games worth playing? Blah. The Wii maybe graphically inferior but has 5 times as many games worth playing. The only good games the fanboys can show are screenshots of future products that do not reflect any way in how the games will play. Pathetic.

Nin360

As opposed to the 360 who's only good game is Gears of War, who dodge every question related to hardware failures and charge for online play, a now standard feature that is free everywhere else.

Or as opposed to Nintendo who roped in millions with the hype of motion-sensing (Are games revolutionized now? Is your average game now amazingly fun because motion-sensing is involved? What's so great about motion-sensing again? As if it was an original idea in the first place.) A company who's sacrifing graphics and actually rich gameplay to instead bank on frivolous and trivial interaction. (Great, now instead of moving a thumbstick or mouse, I manually point to the TV screen. My games are **** EPIC now.)

Why is everyone so focused on the negatives of a competing console that they can't see the faults of their own?

Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.No_worrys_mate

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

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Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.Eponique

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

"It's probably too cheap..."
- Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the $499 to $599 price point

"...for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."
- Ken Kutaragi, explaining their marketing goals for the PS3

I guess its somthing wrong with all us us if we dont want to "work" more hours to buy one. :shock:

Im gonna put it this way.

Competition is always a good thing, and wanting one of the major competitors in a race to fall and break there leg, may sound good, but in the end it only hurts the real losers.... US, the consumer.

And I am 100% sure sony has been humbled by all of there false promises and statements, and the backlash that has ensued from it. I am pretty sure we can expect a humbled, and much more truthfull sony from now on. Now I am not calling them saints, cause no company is, Nintendo and M$ also have there good and bad sides, but I think people need to ease up on Sony at this point.

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Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.Eponique

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

Many people don't consider it just a "toy". Many gamers, like myself, are entering their 30's and treat gaming just like any other hobby. I also play golf, and $600 for equipment in that hobby is considered very cheap.

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Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.Eponique

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

I hate to break it to you, but the only console that could be clasified as a toy would be the Wii. People can only buy the Wii for games....... People buy the PS3 for a blue ray player / games / media center. People buy the 360 for a HD DVD player / games / media center.

[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"]

Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.Eponique

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

Obviously theirs are large portion of the population thatarnt on minimum wage and can afford it straight upbut it seems Sony has a long term goal with all its consoles nothing more i mean it appears that Wii fans are lookingforward to their console for the next 10 years because graphics dont matter so why would it matter if the Ps3 starts at a high point if their suppoting theie consoles to the end as with thePs2 which is the reason why they havnt jump ship and the same will end up to the Ps3 and Ps4..

The 360 isnt freaking cheap, 600 bucks big freaking deal, honestly, people need to stop complaining about the price, old argument and its totally invalid, dont buy it then, but its worth every penny

Anyone who wishes for another company to fail is a sad sad fanboy who doesnt realize how catastrophic and terrible that would be to the industry

R-Dot-Yung

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Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.No_worrys_mate

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

Obviously theirs are large portion of the population thatarnt on minimum wage and can afford it straight upbut it seems Sony has a long term goal with all its consoles nothing more i mean it appears that Wii fans are lookingforward to their console for the next 10 years because graphics dont matter so why would it matter if the Ps3 starts at a high point if their suppoting theie consoles to the end as with thePs2 which is the reason why they havnt jump ship and the same will end up to the Ps3 and Ps4..

I wonder how much money you Aussies make :shock: $850?!

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[QUOTE="No_worrys_mate"]

Like Nintendo is because their making a profit on each console and every product and made the most money last gen even though it sold the worst, But The Ps2 made money for Sony but made its money later as with this gen but they have tried to give the user everything they possibly could want at resonable price and their talking a major hit for it at im still here trying to defend if their not greedy or not.shaggymcp

Yes, I've said that, every company wants money, including Nintendo. But $600 for a toy? Sure it's fun, but c'mon... do you honestly expect people to pay that much? Also considering you can have as much fun on a Wii as a PS3 (well, not you, but most people).

I hate to break it to you, but the only console that could be clasified as a toy would be the Wii. People can only buy the Wii for games....... People buy the PS3 for a blue ray player / games / media center. People buy the 360 for a HD DVD player / games / media center.

Don't you have to buy the HD-DVD for the 360? The Wii can browse the Internet, give you weather, and give you news, so I guess that's a media centre...

i agree about the price but it wont fail, there will be a price cut and sales will pick upjohnpoop1234

Ya sure keep thinking that. They aren't even close to making profit on the system. So it will be quite some time before they can make price cut.