Hermit franchises that were 'dumbed down' for consoles

Series that underwent consolization:

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(The ones you mentioned)

F.E.A.R.

Crysis

Fallout

Dungeon Siege

X-Com

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(I'll add more as I think of them)

Call of Duty. :o

rainbow six

F.E.A.R.

Crysis

Fallout

(I'll add more as I think of them)

peterw007

Gothic, Dungeon Siege and Deus Ex.

Talking about Deus Ex : IW, the new one looks much more like the orriginal.

Also, Aliens vs. Predator.

Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Command and Conquer, ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Command and Conquer, DarkLink77

There are civilization games on consoles?ferret-gamer

Yes.. I think it's called Civ: revolution? Could be wrong, can't remember.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Command and Conquer, TrapJak

8Tsk* *Tsk* Are we forgetting Quake...

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Command and Conquer, TrapJak

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah, all of these fit the bill. Especially UT and Dragon Age. :(ShadowDeathX

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah, all of these fit the bill. Especially UT and Dragon Age. :(The__MCP

Civilization V was "dumbed down" from Civ 4, and those two games were PC only. Do hermits really think "casualization" never would have occurred had consoles never existed? Look where we are today. With Facebook and the mobile games sector growing, I can almost guarantee games would still be made to appeal to a more widespread market. Casualization was bound to happen as the target audience grew, like it or not.

Dungeon Siege.

Civilization V was "dumbed down" from Civ 4, and those two games were PC only. Do hermits really think "casualization" never would have occurred had consoles never existed? Look where we are today. With Facebook and the mobile games sector growing, I can almost guarantee games would still be made to appeal to a more widespread market. Casualization was bound to happen as the target audience grew, like it or not.

Vari3ty

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Civilization V was "dumbed down" from Civ 4, and those two games were PC only. Do hermits really think "casualization" never would have occurred had consoles never existed? Look where we are today. With Facebook and the mobile games sector growing, I can almost guarantee games would still be made to appeal to a more widespread market. Casualization was bound to happen as the target audience grew, like it or not.

ShadowDeathX

Also, Aliens vs. Predator.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Also, Aliens vs. Predator.

drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Civilization V was "dumbed down" from Civ 4, and those two games were PC only. Do hermits really think "casualization" never would have occurred had consoles never existed? Look where we are today. With Facebook and the mobile games sector growing, I can almost guarantee games would still be made to appeal to a more widespread market. Casualization was bound to happen as the target audience grew, like it or not.

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Also, Aliens vs. Predator.

drinkerofjuice

The PC game F.E.A.R. came out in 2005, a year before a 360 port and 2 years before a PS3 port.

The sequels of F.E.A.R. lost a lot of the original's charm...feeling increasingly like a consolized shooter and less like a horror game with each iteration.

-Call of Duty

-Ghost Recon

-Deus Ex

-The Elders Scrolls

-Fallout

-The "Shock" series

-Thief

-XCOM

-CNC

-Dungeon Seige

-Dragon Age

-Crysis2

:lol: they weren't dumbed down by consoles they were dumbed down to actually make money for once.

Gothic, Dungeon Siege and Deus Ex.

GeneralShowzer

Arcania: Gothic 4 is a great example; Jowood wanted a console-centric game right from the start, and it didn't help that they chose a developer that was not only new to the series but had never even made an RPG before. The original developer, Piranha Bytes, went on to make a spiritual sequel called Risen, which despite appearing on the Xbox 360 had no compromises in its learning curve and lovingly-crafted open world, with the only signs of any console influence being the inclusion of achievements and a brief, optional tutorial at the very start.

Dragon Age 2 was the most noticeable. Not consoles fault but made me hate them a little bit.

X-COM got worse before being made for consoles. In fact, this one looks better than last few iterations.funsohng

XCOM has no relation to X-COM beyond the generic "aliens attack!" premise. The genre is different, the setting is different, and even the enemies shown so far are all completely new.

I'm with Spoony on this one.

surprised no one said Rainbow6. good example right there.muscleserge

rainbow six

Firebird-5

[QUOTE="funsohng"]X-COM got worse before being made for consoles. In fact, this one looks better than last few iterations.garrett_daniels

XCOM has no relation to X-COM beyond the generic "aliens attack!" premise. The genre is different, the setting is different, and even the enemies shown so far are all completely new.

I'm with Spoony on this one.

Then name it something else.

"Generic First Person Shooter #21245" would suffice.

XCOM is billed as a "re-imagining" of the original games...

I would definitely consider that a relation.

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]surprised no one said Rainbow6. good example right there.ShadowDeathX

rainbow six

Firebird-5

[QUOTE="funsohng"]X-COM got worse before being made for consoles. In fact, this one looks better than last few iterations.garrett_daniels

XCOM has no relation to X-COM beyond the generic "aliens attack!" premise. The genre is different, the setting is different, and even the enemies shown so far are all completely new.

I'm with Spoony on this one.

Dumbed down?

Crysis 2

Rainbow Six since Lockdown

Ghost Recon

SWAT: Global Strike FOrce (console-only FPS that's seriously LOL compared to original :D )

Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Fallout 3

Sea Dogs 2 (or rather Pirates of the Carribean)

Panzer General (on consoles they turned it into some retarded board game)

Deus Ex; IW

Thief 3

I'm not naming stuff like CoD, because that was just consolized, which isn't the same thing as dumbed down.

The instant a game or series is ported to consoles, they immediately claim the series is now garbage and will be a shadow of what it was when it was PC exclusive.DJ_Lae

...because we remember Deus Ex: Invisible War, Crysis 2 and numerous other examples; some are more severely dumbed down than others, but all are equally disappointing as a whole.

Sure, the existence of a console version isn't automatically a bad thing, but there are far more series worsened by a console focus than ones that were unchanged or actually improved.

...because we remember Deus Ex: Invisible War, Crysis 2 and numerous other examples; some are more severely dumbed down than others, but all are equally disappointing as a whole.

Sure, the existence of a console version isn't automatically a bad thing, but there are far more series worsened by a console focus than ones that were unchanged or actually improved.

Crysis 2 and UT3.

Both had absolutely stellar predecessors, and something went terribly wrong.

Crysis 2 destroyed literally everything that made the first stand out, and UT3, while it didn't do anything as extreme as what Crysis 2 did, was released with a quarter of the content that UT2004 had.

Supreme Commander 2 got consolized hard.

Supreme Commander 2 got consolized hard.

the_mitch28

Most of my gaming is on consoles now but even I will admit that hermits have a point when they say consoles 'dumb down' their beloved franchises. Usually by streamlining the entire interface into a much less complicated control system, although sometimes out of necessity. Some examples: Deus Ex Bioware RPGs Civilization (although pc still keeps the regular version, thank god) Alone in the Dark Battlefield (with Bad Company) What are some franchises that used to be pc exclusives that got much more complex on consoles? Do they exist?The__MCP

Wow what a bad list.

- Deus Ex Invisible War was a mediocre game even on consoles

- Bioware didn't make a "hardcore" RPG since Baldur's Gate II

- Civilization is still a PC centric franchise so I don't know why you're concerned with console spin-offs

- Alone in the Dark is a dead franchise

- the core Battlefield series are still PC centric while Bad Company is a console spin-off

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Command and Conquer, DarkLink77