Hermits: CSS vs. TF2... which, in your opinion, is better?

NOTE: This has nothing to do with CS 1.6. We ALL know how great a game that is.

Alright, I have debating for a very long time which I think is better. But I have finally made my decision. I think that TF2 is superior.

Here's why. I think that it is much more balanced. In my experience, in TF2, no class really dominates the game. In CSS, anyone with an AWP controls the entire level. It can be annoying. Overall, while I think CSS is great fun, it really pales in comparison to CS 1.6. But TF2, in my opinion, is better than my experience with the previous TF game(s). But this again is my opinion.

What is everyone else's opinion?

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

ok, first off NEVER start a thread with Hermits in the front it look stupid.

CSS is more skill based but once you get past that barrier the game is a blast and also when you get on a server where every is not using a AWP its really fun then, zombie mod is fun as hell and the community is great but sometimes the pubs (Public) are annoying as there are mic spammers and general idiots.

TF2 is just pure ****ing fun, the classes are so awsome, and how they keep the balance so well, the skill barrier is WAYYY lower than CSS but there still is alot of skilled players playing that game, because the game is so balanced anyone never has the upper hand in what class you play, its always even all the time.

so you have 2 choices. Be poor and afford one, or be rich like me and buy both and then buy orange box as well....

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

Meu2k7

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

TF2, but only since CS:S is almost too hard unless you've been playing for years.KingCotton462

It may be hard for you because you use a controller

ok, first off NEVER start a thread with Hermits in the front it look stupid.

Pinkyimp

Ok, first off... NEVER tell me how to make my own thread... it looks stupid! :)

I'll tell you one thing though. I'm seriously hating the medic whores atm.tonythestudent

Should have given new achievements to each class. Scouts, heavy, soldier, and demomen never had their own specific achievement :(

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

Pinkyimp

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

Crit rockets FTL, their damage needs a bit toning down.

I'll tell you one thing though. I'm seriously hating the medic whores atm.tonythestudent

I'm just glad valve fixed the medic exploit today.

thats why i don't play on scrub (awp) servers. aand awp is equally bs among css and cs1.6, so i don't see how that specific negative is held solely against the source version. anyways, i will still say that because source is still a derivative of the greatest and best multiplayer game ever, it is superior to TF2. altho i love the balance of tf2 and all the strategy and gameplay in tf2, both variations of counterstrike are still the pinnacle of competitive multiplayer.

note: i only have tf2 for 360, but i might buy pc version anyways. regardless, it does not change my view on either game.

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]I'll tell you one thing though. I'm seriously hating the medic whores atm.spinecaton

Should have given new achievements to each class. Scouts, heavy, soldier, and demomen never had their own specific achievement :(

I can't wait till my precious scout gets a new beatstick :D :D

TF2(PC) i just love the way it plays, love the teamwork and the classes are...balanced for god sakes that is one thing i lovewdave92

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]I'll tell you one thing though. I'm seriously hating the medic whores atm.tonythestudent

Should have given new achievements to each class. Scouts, heavy, soldier, and demomen never had their own specific achievement :(

I can't wait till my precious scout gets a new beatstick :D :D

LOL Just another thing for us to swing around mindlessly as we wait for the round to start :D

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

Pinkyimp

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

Dont get me started on Soldiers:x They have too many strenghts and not enough weaknesses:!:D

[QUOTE="KingCotton462"]TF2, but only since CS:S is almost too hard unless you've been playing for years.Painballz

It may be hard for you because you use a controller

lol wut? it wouldn't matter unless I wanted to concentrate on being a sniper.

TF2.

Teamwork all the way.

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"]I'll tell you one thing though. I'm seriously hating the medic whores atm.tonythestudent

Should have given new achievements to each class. Scouts, heavy, soldier, and demomen never had their own specific achievement :(

I can't wait till my precious scout gets a new beatstick :D :D

Scouts for life :P

Scouts for life :P

Meu2k7

Damn straight!

css, I could never get into TF2. But I owned (note past tense) at CSS, i rarely play either but i'd take CSS any day over TF2. I've had some great moments with CSS in just the 4 years its been out.

It almost never gets old.

Oh god that's so close. I prefer CSS for competitive play, and TF2 for casual play, because TF2 is extremely competitive even in public servers. Pubs in CSS are just.... awful.

EDIT: BONK

[QUOTE="wdave92"]TF2(PC) i just love the way it plays, love the teamwork and the classes are...balanced for god sakes that is one thing i loveBig_T-Mac

thats why you get a heavy to clear out your spawn area 1st... or another pyro,or soilder

EDIT:Wrong quote:oops:

TF2 anyday, the classes makes it far more complex, and fun.

Pyro here :D

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

wdave92

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

Dont get me started on Soldiers:x They have too many strenghts and not enough weaknesses:!:D

thats why you get a heavy to clear out your spawn area 1st... or another pyro,or soilder

Or a good sniper that can peg em in one hit.

TF2 anyday, the classes makes it far more complex, and fun.

Pyro here :D

hugo_ben

I was expecting to HATE being a pyro. But they are probably my favorite class. The only class I don't like yet are the Spies. But that revolver of thirs is nice. Especially with the headshots!

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

wdave92

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

Dont get me started on Soldiers:x They have too many strenghts and not enough weaknesses:!:D

thats why you get a heavy to clear out your spawn area 1st... or another pyro,or soilder

The problem with soldiers for me is, they have high HP, high damage and a crit rocket basically one shots everyone, not to mention they move at a normal pace(demo/pyro/sniper) and have all that. At least it feels as if he is moving that pace.

[QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Team Fortress 2, I could never really get into the whole CounterStrike, Call of Duty & Medal of Honour type online, bores me to death, no variety, just first to the head wins.

Team Fortress 2 is heavily under-appreaciated, its classes are very well balanced (Except noob-tard soldiers :P ), thier roles are distinctive, they are the best designed characters in any online FPS aswell which is a nice addition, they actual have character instead of being lifeless shells.

jangojay

dont be hatin on dem soidlers! lol

Dont get me started on Soldiers:x They have too many strenghts and not enough weaknesses:!:D

thats why you get a heavy to clear out your spawn area 1st... or another pyro,or soilder

The problem with soldiers for me is, they have high HP, high damage and a crit rocket basically one shots everyone, not to mention they move at a normal pace(demo/pyro/sniper) and have all that. At least it feels as if he is moving that pace.

Soldiers are slower then sniper and pyro for sure, I think demo is slightly faster but not by much.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Scouts for life :P

tonythestudent

Damn straight!

Scout's the best because I love the playstyle and the character itself is worth playing as. his attitude and dialogue (best voice acting in the game) is worth it to play as him, but combine both parts and he's by far my favorite.

best line in the game (scout stealing intel): "say goodbye to your secret crap, dumbass!" :lol: gets me everytime.

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="wdave92"]TF2(PC) i just love the way it plays, love the teamwork and the classes are...balanced for god sakes that is one thing i lovewdave92

thats why you get a heavy to clear out your spawn area 1st... or another pyro,or soilder

EDIT:Wrong quote:oops:

The problem with soldiers for me is, they have high HP, high damage and a crit rocket basically one shots everyone, not to mention they move at a normal pace(demo/pyro/sniper) and have all that. At least it feels as if he is moving that pace. jangojay

sol vs scout: scout adv. unless they meet at point blank around a corner.
sol vs pyro: sol adv. tho both near death or dead unless at distance.
sol vs heavy: adv. heavy
sol vs sniper: obviously adv. depends on distance.
sol vs medi: advantage soldier obviously, but medi's the weakest
sol vs engi: adv soldier, unless theres a decent placed turret
sol vs spy: obviously if the spy is decent he should be victorious.
sol vs demo: i'd take demo everytime.

if theyre in my base its fine cuz i can get to medi supplies, its when they hide in their base around corners that piss me off. atleast with everybuddy else theres some kind of warning like sticky bombs on the ground, the minigun revving, or the turret beeping.Big_T-Mac

I find they're actually most annoying when you're trying to cap a point and they appear out of nowhere and flame everyone on the point.

Both are extremely fun, but I'd give TF2 the edge.

The Counter-Strike series has remained fun for years and years, though. TF2 has yet to prove its longevity.

[QUOTE="tonythestudent"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Scouts for life :P

Big_T-Mac

Damn straight!

Scout's the best because I love the playstyle and the character itself is worth playing as. his attitude and dialogue (best voice acting in the game) is worth it to play as him, but combine both parts and he's by far my favorite.

best line in the game (scout stealing intel): "say goodbye to your secret crap, dumbass!" :lol: gets me everytime.

I like the "HEHEHE, YOU JUST GOT OWNED!" or the medic's "everyone......I AM ON FIRE!!!"

TFC is waaay better than both of those gamesRuroKen4Life

ahh here comes the attempted elitest who always picks the older games to pretend like he is a veteran and has played every single game for x amount of time.